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This is exactly why you fall short in every debate you participate in: you take raw statistics as gospel, you never delve deeper into the topics, and apparently, you have selective reading. Tom Brady has been the better playoff performer than Peyton Manning. There is absolutely no denying that, and I believe I've already said it earlier in the thread. My point is that Brady has always had more support from his team and has always been put in a much better position to succeed... and that's an indisputable fact. When you're deep in the playoffs matching up against the elite teams of the league, generally, the better team will win out regardless of your personal ability and talent, and it will be at the expense of the running back, the defense, the QB, or whoever. That said, he has had a hand in his playoff losses—that's almost a given when you're the star quarterback of your team—but you're very off-base in your suggestion that he was the sole (or main) reasons for it. Didn't see this post, but I'll do my best to tackle it now. Indefensible. One, because I only recall two of these games, and two, because he was just overwhelmed by the better team. There is no viable excuse for this. Manning (and the Colts) just lost to the better team. Manning leads his offense to 15 points late in the 4th quarter, and puts his team in prime position to tie the game with what should be a cakewalk for the "most accurate kicker in NFL history". 46 yards. Wide right. It's all Peyton's fault. Apparently, overcoming the biggest deficit in conference championship history and taking over the game in the clutch is considered "sucking dick" nowadays. And likewise, so is controlling the Super Bowl and doing what's needed to win. News to me. Gee Jeff, if those are the new terms for sucking dick, then I guess your mother can't be considered a hooker anymore, can she? Oh yes. Manning was the one that fumbled the ball deep in opponent territory. Manning was dropping his passes on crucial possessions. Manning was bobbling his own passes into the other team's hands. All of that happened. Come on, Manning did everything he could to win that game, and even you could attest to that. He played exceptionally well despite Scifres' domination, and I'm certain he would've won the game if he called the coin toss right. It's funny how you're quick to magnify Manning's performances in playoff losses (because all superstar QBs are expected to put up gaudy numbers when they're losing), but there is never any emphasis put on his superb outings, his performances in wins, and all of his postseason records. Keep the drivel coming.

So you bandwagoned both teams when they were good? And I don't think anything is wrong with being a ChiSox fan in Orlando. Orlando doesn't even have a baseball team. and if he was a bandwagoner, I don't think he would have chosen the ChiSox.

says the 49er and patriot fan stfu

I have a deviantART account, but I don't even upload half the stuff I make. Click here. A lot of the stuff is very very old. I'll work on making it into a sig later.

Mario Chalmers was the first Heat rookie to start all 82 games that says something. He was also top 5 in the NBA in steals. Beasley put up better rookie numbers than Chris Bosh his rookie season and his defense only got better as the season went on. Did the Cavs have anyone make All Rookie First Team like Beasley did? Daequan Cook isn't just a shooter he's also a very good defender and Dorrell, when healthy, will be a starter for us he just had a bad knee injury. Mo and Delonte aren't young so don't give me that crap. The only young guys on your team are Hickson, Boobie who is complete trash compared to any of these guys and 2 guys I've never heard of.

Lets take a look at your homerism. Mario Chalmers, basically a defensive specialist who will never be anything on offense besides a few games where he will occasionally put up big 3 point nights.Michael Beasley, couldn't even get in the starting lineup because of how bad his defense is Daequan Cook, a shooter who can't do anything else Dorell Wright, can never play a full season. Amazing young core you got right there.

People said the same thing when he was on the Heat, and we all know how that turned out.

Good old Shaq.

I'm so bored out of me arse!

Red Sox fans, look at the OP

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