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:lol: :lol: Can I get a +1?

I don't know who you think you are kid, but you're digging yourself a deeper hole here. Trying to defend yourself regarding your stupidity by dissing our fanbases and using "ownage" pictures? Get original bro, it's painful to watch you stand up for yourself.

Lol someone get this kid outta here. He has yet to "style" anyone here. Better watch your back before I steal your voice and gum-chewing style.

Ya boy. Such an awesome player IMO. Best thing about him is that he speaks his mind and tells the truth regardless of the cost.

Since it was inevitable with Kobe winning his 5th ring, there's plenty of people once again comparing MJ to Kobe. So, to keep all the discussion in one topic, here it is. Here's my arguement... Accomplishments/Accolades: This area doesn't mean a whole lot to me as they are both 2 of the most accomplished players in the league. But, here's how it breaks down... Championships: Jordan-6, Kobe-5 MVP's: Jordan-5, Kobe-1 Finals MVP's: Jordan-6, Kobe-2 Defensive Player of the Year: Jordan-1, Kobe-0 Scoring Titles: Jordan-10, Kobe-2 All-NBA First Team: Jordan-10, Kobe-8 All-NBA First Team Defense: Jordan-9, Kobe-8 All-Star Game MVP's: Jordan-3, Kobe-3 It's unfair to put a ton of weight in this area, but regardless if Kobe wins more rings than MJ, I think it's safe to say that Jordan's individual accolades will never really be matched by anyone in the modern era. The Real Debate- X's and O's: This is where the real debate is. Seeing as how they are both so accomplished and have such similar personalities and characteristics that exemplify greatness, it all comes down to the X's and O's. Before I begin...I am comparing them based on the players they were in their absolute primes. I consider Jordan's prime to be '88-'93, and Kobe's to be '05-'10. With that said, here's how I break it down. Scoring: Obviously the strongest area of both player's games. The two greatest scorers in NBA history. I'll start off by saying Kobe is WITHOUT A DOUBT the most skilled scorer the league has ever seen. No one has ever had the truly complete package he has. Where Kobe truly elipses Jordan as a scorer is shooting...he's a much better 3pt shooter, slightly better shooter in the midrange game, a slightly better FT shooter and a slightly better left hand. Both players are about equal in terms of footwork, use of pump fakes, etc... Kobe has a few moves he uses on very rare occasions that Jordan didn't have, but they are also very low % shots. Nontheless, nice to have in the repetoire. Where Jordan has the big edge on Kobe is efficiency. As a general example aside from using season FG %, in 1991-1992, Jordan played 80 games and only had EIGHT games of shooting below 40%. In 2006-2007, the most comparable season Kobe had to Jordan's 91-92 campaign, he played 77 games and had TWENTY games of shooting below 40%. I know people will say that number is such because Kobe doesn't drive to the rim as much as MJ did, but let's take Dwyne Wade...in 2008-2009, where he averaged 30PPG on a terrific 49% shooting, he had 8 games of shooting below 40% 1.5 months into the season. There is something to be said for Jordan's amazing efficiency and consistency, and it goes beyond just him attacking the rim. Anyway, the reason Jordan was so efficient is a two-fold. A) Not only did he drive more than Kobe, but he was much quicker, stronger, had bigger hands (Phil Jackson mentions this a lot) and a higher vertical leap, allowing him to finish much better than Kobe at the rim. Jordan was an absolute freak athlete that really only LeBron James has come close to from a physical standpoint. B) Shot selection. Jordan was in no way, shape or form a better shooter than Kobe, but he also didn't take 5+ 3pt shots per game as Kobe does. Jordan kept his 3pt jacks to a minimum, taking 1-3 of them per game in that 5-year span. However, he wasn't a bad 3pt shooter, and in the two seasons in his prime that he took over 2 3PA, he shot 37% and 35%, respectively. Kobe has never shot 37% from 3, and taking 5+ a game really lowers his overall FG %. On top of the efficiency and fact that Jordan was a much better slasher, he also had a TERRIFIC midrange game, which is what seperates him from players like LeBron and Wade. He had incredible footwork, midrange jumper, fadeaway jumper, ability in the post, pump-fakes, ball-fakes...he was the complete package from inside the arc. Kobe arguably has more moves and a better jumper, but Jordan's driving ability made it harder for players to get in his jersey, allowing for some easier looks. My winner- Jordan. The advantage Jordan had in effiency and consistency simply outweighs Kobe's advantage in skill, at least IMO. Defense: Personally if there is an area that I don't think is much of a conversation, it's defense. Jordan and Kobe can both be considered lockdown defenders, but Jordan was the better of the two. He was more consistently great on defense, had greater lateral quickness, greater strength, and much quicker hands and ability to create TO's. Twice in the 5-year span I am comparing them in Jordan led the league in steals twice at nearly 3 a game, and he was the 1988 DPOY. Jordan is considered by many as the greatest perimeter defender in NBA history. Kobe is a great defensive player, but he just isn't Jordan. My winner- Jordan. Playmaking/Passing/Ballhandling: Another area that comes down to skill vs. effectiveness. Kobe is the more skilled ballhandler and about equally skilled of a passer. He can make virtually any pass on the court, and can certainly orchestrate an offense pretty well. However, Kobe is very TO prone, and being more of a shooter than Jordan it's more difficult to set his teammates up for open shots without collapsing the defense like Jordan did so well. Because of this, Jordan averaged 6APG+ 3x in that 5-year span, including an 8APG season. In that span, he averaged over 3TO's per game twice. Meanwhile, in the last 5 years Kobe hasn't had one season of over 5.5APG, and has eclipsed the 3TO mark 4 of the 5 seasons. My winner- Jordan. Jordan was CLEARLY the more productive player in this area, and give me that production over raw skill. Rebounding: Jordan never averaged below 6RPG in that 5-year span...Kobe has averaged over 6RPG only once the last 5 seasons. For you advanced stat nuts, if you want to go by TRB%, Kobe never was above a 9.0 while Jordan was never below a 9.5. Aside from pure stats, Jordan was stronger, quicker, had better hands and a higher vertical leap...not surprising he was a better rebounder. My Winner- Jordan. Clutch Play: This is where things get interesting. If I was to pick one to take the last shot of a ball-game, I'd take Kobe. Having more moves in his arsenal and being a better shooter from all ranges, there is no shot he can't hit. If you force him into a jumper or put him to the FT line, I trust him more than Jordan to hit the shot. With that said, clutch play has more to do with just hitting the final shot. I consider playing big in the entire post-season as being clutch. Here are there stats in the post-season: Jordan '88-'93: 34.2PPG, 6.8APG, 6.7RPG, 50.0% FG, 83.0% FT, 36.0% 3PT, 2.3SPG, 3.2 TO Kobe '05-'10: 29.9PPG, 5.5APG, 5.6RPG, 47.0% FG, 85.0% FT, 36.0% 3PT, 1.4SPG, 3.3 TO As you can see, Jordan was an absolute monster in the post-season. Not saying Kobe isn't because he is, but Jordan was a better post-season performer in his prime than Kobe is. Winner- Draw. Both have their perks and disadvantages. Two best clutch players in NBA history. Overall, I think my breakdown of the two's games shows who I think is truly the better player, at least when each was at their absolute best with similar supporting casts, same coach, etc... Jordan is the GOAT IMO, and as amazing as Kobe has been in his prime years, Jordan was simply better. Debate on...

What does that have to do with you being a dumbass?

About as many times as O.J Mayo takes a terrible shot.

You're a moron. You think Kobe is trying to become the same person as Jordan. Saying he's trying to be the same player would suffice, but the same person? You're an idiot. Oh, and nice attempt to diss my team... lol you're a waste of space here dude

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exVQR8MG3ac

That's not even funny. You're a complete moron. You thought Kobe stole Michael Jordan's vocal cords. GTFO

The Milwaukee Bucks came into Thursday's NBA Draft with four picks, three being in the second round. General Manager John Hammond said that it would be highly unlikely for the team to keep all four picks. However, at the end of the night they did just that. With the picks Milwaukee selected three forwards and one center. #15 | Larry Sanders - PF I would like this pick a lot more if Henry, Davis, and Patterson weren't taken directly in front of our selection. With this pick Milwaukee filled a hole in the front court. It doesn't appear as if the 6'11" PF will have much competition in regards to the starting position. Look for him to grow alongside Andrew Bogut as he is a solid rebounder and an above average defender. Overall this is a safe place as Sanders should become an efficient player at the next level. #37 | Darington Hobson - SF Not a bad pick as he is both an efficient scorer and a strong rebounder. He's going to have to improve his ball handling and overall control to be successful at this level. Adding some strength certainly wouldn't hurt either. With our current overload of forwards I don't see Hobson getting much playing time in his rookie year unless some moves are made. #44 | Jerome Jordan - C I initially thought that Jordan would be a serviceable backup to Andrew Bogut as he is a solid shot blocker that can also score. However, just recently I've heard that Jordan has been traded to the New York Knicks for cash considerations. #47 | Tiny Gallon - PF Many will wonder if Gallon was selected thanks to his longtime friendship with PG Brandon Jennings. This may ultimately be the case but don't let that prevent you from believing that Gallon has a future with this team. He's a big PF which is something that the Bucks have lacked in past seasons. Many comparisons have him as a Glen Davis type of player which is something I think this team could use off the bench. However in order to be a long-term player in the NBA he is going to have to get in better shape as he is currently weighing in at over 300 lbs. Although the Bucks drafted four rookies it appears as if they'll only be keeping three of them. I like that we added size although it seems as if we still have a few holes needing to be addressed. With our four picks none of them were guards. This could be troublesome to many as John Salmons' return is questionable at best and Luke Ridnour will also become an unrestricted free agent. Another hole that seemed to be addressed was Bogut's backup. With Kurt Thomas contemplating retirement and Gadzuric sent to the Warriors we will need someone to come behind the big man in Bogut. Overall I think this was a solid draft for the Bucks. I think more could have been done in terms of packaging picks together to move up the draft but you certainly can't complain with the talent we received. As it stands now it appears as if all three of our kept picks will be able to contribute to the team in some way or another in the upcoming season. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/411141-breaking-down-the-draft-milwaukee-bucks

Because he's not a Celtic. Heinsohn hates every non-Celtic in the league. /thread

Not a chance, IMO. "A Star Is Born" is really the only song I like lyrically simply because it's cool to see a big name give props to other big names and give credit where credit is due. Also it was a good concept to get J. Cole a platform to show his skills and Cole did work. Sure, I enjoy going back and listening to "Already Home", "Empire State of Mind", and "Run This Town" from time to time, but those songs don't hold up to "Going Through Changes", "Space Bound", "Talkin' To Myself", "You're Never Over", or the genius behind the double meaning of "Seduction". That's just my opinion.

Did you see the game, or the round for that matter? Two terrible calls (at least) that would have put the US in way earler, one against Algeria, and one in the previous game that disallowed goals. I hate blaming refs, but the refs were the worst when it came to screwing over the US on goals. The team still was able to rebound and win the game in the final minutes, that's huge. Think of it as a game winning 3 in game 1 of the NBA finals... doesn't win the series, but it sure helps.

I love what the Magic did getting Orton and Robinson with the 2nd last picks in the 1st and 2nd rounds respectively. Both of aren't ready to contribute immediately, but with Orlando's depth, they can allow both of them to sit on the bench and hope that they develop and reach their potential. Orton was a projected lottery pick at one point and Robinson is one of the most athletic players in this class and was projected as a late first at one point as well. These two aren't going to do much immediately, but I think down the line both of them could easily end up as steals considering where they were drafted.

Invent a 4 pt line, and he'll make a come back.

I got the need... The need 4 SHEED.

http://www.wowowow.com/files/imagecache/300x/2009_0710_fox_greta_van_susteren.jpg The only person I truly hate. Greta Van Susteren.... <_<

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His forehead wouldn't fit on the cover

Kareem is and will always be the greatest Center ever.

lol people are overrating Jordan/Kobe too much, they are great sure but guys like Shaq, Hakeem, Bill Russell, Magic Johnson and Kareem deserve some respect.

I'm tired of seeing this stuff everywhere. On TV, on the internet, in magazines. KOBE BRYANT IS KOBE BRYANT. He is not trying to be Michael Jordan. he's trying to create his own legacy. I'm sure in his own head he doesn't even think about who he can be compared to after winning his 5th, and maybe winning 6, 7 or 8. He knows, and people that know Kobe all know he isn't trying to beat anyone, he's trying to be the best player he can be. Now stop comparing.