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For the future, imageshack.us and many other sites have a resize option. http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/4279/74494896.jpg http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/4279/74494896.jpg2 points
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LeBron. 2 MVP's, multiple All-NBA First Team selection, led a team with the worst supporting cast in NBA history to the Finals, never really been injured (where as Wae essentially missed the better part of 2 seasons), and since 2006 has been out of the first round every single season (where as Wade's been out of it only once, granted he won a championship that one year). Most importantly, at no time has Wade been regarded a better player by the masses. For the record I thought Wade was a better player the year he won a championship and the following year before the injury, but since LeBron developed a consistent jumper and defensive ability, he's been the better player.1 point
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I don't see too many people saying that, actually. I think the main problem was that the Heat were a trio with a young coach and Mario Chalmers, nothing more. Things changed over time, and they brought in good role players. Granted they really don't have a stellar post game or a good post defender other than Anthony (who hasn't played starter minutes for a full season), the Heat can still do a lot of damage. People are just concerned (or, I should say skeptical) because of that, and rightfully so. I understand you guys are hyped up for the season, but if this were any other team in the league, you'd have to be pointing out the same exact flaws. What happened to other big-name trios? Injuries, for the most part. Garnett in 2009, Malone in 2004. They struck Houston's trio of Hakeem, Charles and Clyde. Barkley and Drexler hobbled to the finish line, missing a ton of games in the second half of the season. Houston won 57 and reached the WCF, fell to Utah (who was an incredible team). If injuries strike the Heat late in the season, the same thing could happen to them. I'm not sure if James' elbow injury was real or what, but it changed the way it played, or Boston just figured him out. We saw what happened with Wade a few years back. Bosh couldn't push the Raptors into the post-season in 2010 because of what happened to him to end the year. Really, LeBron has yet to suffer a major injury. People are either looking at him like he's the Utah Karl Malone, or that he's due for a big one. Chemistry really isn't the issue, I don't think, because as long as James accepts he may be scoring less, and Bosh is down with that as well, it'll work out. Wade expects his role to stay the same, so he's really saying he'll continue to lead the team. If that doesn't hurt anyone's feelings, the Heat will win 60+ games...but again, everyone knows LeBron James, and you can't rule out the possibility that he's going to feed on the hype and try taking over games, only because Cleveland's coaching staff has given him the green light for seven years, and he's sitting in his prime as we speak. I'm definitely not jealous of the Heat. I have full confidence that the Lakers are a better team. I'm just pointing out problems that I've seen in the past, and problems that I had to pray our franchise could avoid (to no avail).1 point
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We had 46 wins last year. We kept our team intact and added Maggette, CDR, Gooden, and our draft picks. I think we may be closer to 55 wins than 50. And honestly, I think we're a much deeper team than the Bulls. Don't be surprised if we win the division over them. They haven't done anything yet but people seem to think Boozer will automatically lead them to greatness. Not happening.1 point
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Dumars Asked in July if he could defend Jordan under today’s interpretation of the rules, Dumars first laughed, then offered a long pause before replying, “It would have been virtually impossible to defend Michael Jordan based on the way the game’s being called right now.” Rod Thorn “It’s more difficult now to guard the quick wing player who can handle the ball,” Thorn said of the change. “I think it helps skilled players over someone who just has strength or toughness. What the NBA is trying to do is promote unimpeded movement for dribblers or cutters.” Pippen: The defensive rules, the hand checking, the ability to make contact on a guy in certain areas, the ability to come over in the lane to stop guys from getting to the basket, that's all been taken away from the game. There is no contact up on the floor. The way I played Magic Johnson in the '91 Finals, I would have fouled out the first time down court. To compare how someone would have played Michael Jordan, Chuck Daly would send someone to wear him down. Even though he may get 30 or 40 points, they're going to be a hard 30 points. But in today's game, you can't put that physical wear and tear on a guy. Stu Jackson (the man behind the new rules) The hand check has always been a part of pro basketball. What we have done is interpret the hand check slightly different in that, if a defender has what I’ll refer to as a “stayed hand” on the defender, e.g. with a stiffened elbow, a foul on the defense would be called if it affects the offensive player's speed, rhythm or balance. It's been five years since we really began to interpret the hand check in this way, and we continue to focus on enforcement. Three years ago, before the ’04-05 season, we also began to really interpret and enforce the forearm and body check, where by we had defenders either placing a hand or a forearm on an offensive player’s shoulder or hip in an effort to slow them down and give them a defensive advantage in terms of sliding in front of the offensive player. When we disallowed that – the use of the hand, the use of the forearm to the shoulder, the hip, the body – that in conjunction with the hand check interpretation started to give offensive players on the perimeter more offensive freedom. It doesn't. With the rule and interpretation changes, it has become more difficult for defenders to defend penetration, cover the entire floor on defensive rotations and recover to shooters. This has provided more time for shooters to ready themselves for quality shots. With more dribble penetration, ball handlers are getting more opportunities at the rim.1 point
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Given the person asking the question I must ask, did you check the mute is on, on your computer?1 point
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..no it's not. [2:185] Ramadan is the month during which the Quran was revealed, providing guidance for the people, clear teachings, and the statute book. Those of you who witness this month shall fast therein. Those who are ill or travelling may substitute the same number of other days. GOD wishes for you convenience, not hardship, that you may fulfil your obligations, and to glorify GOD for guiding you, and to express your appreciation. From the Quran. It has nothing to do with seeing how homeless people live. Your ignorance annoys me.1 point
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I don't think you even know a single thing about Islam. First, Islam is a peacful religion (Obviously the House of War has twisted this a little bit, but anyone who had read the Quaran knows this). As a Muslim, you would first never hope that someone dies for ignorant comments; you would pray for them. Second, you're not God and you can't condemn anyone to hell. Stop being stupid and embarassing the religion.1 point
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hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaha LBJ: 23-9 APG -8 RPG Wade: 22-4 APG-5 RPG Bosh: 18- 2 APG- 10 RPG1 point
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Haha RD that was ownage. But I'm bored so I'm gonna nit-pick a few things... Oh c'mon you know that's not the right way to look at it. Shaq led the league each of the championship seasons in both FG% and FTA. He led the league in scoring the first championship, and took home MVP. Top 4 in blocks the first 2 championship seasons, top 3 in RPG both of those seasons. He was #1 in PER each of the championship seasons. Finals MVP each championship. Aside from the stats, no one demanded as much defensive attention in modern day NBA history as Shaq did those seasons. He was so efficient, so dominant both as a scorer and rebounder, and his passing out of those post is one of the reasons that offense ran so smoothly. Well, are we talking just championship teams? If so, I'd say Dr. J came close when the Sixers won the championship and Moses Malone was MVP. Erving averaged 21.4PPG/6.8RPG/3.8APG/1.6SPG/1.8BPG and shot 51.7% from the field. Actually a very good comparison to the '99-'00 stat wise as Malone gave relatively similar production to Shaq. Gail Goodwrich on the '71-'72 Lakers. Took 20.7 FGA to West's 20.0. Don't know if you're trying to prove that Kobe/Shaq was Batman A and Batman B as opposed to Batman and Robin, but Shaq's playoff numbers during the championship years were off the charts- 1999-2000: 30.7PPG, 15.4RPG, 3.1APG, 56.6% FG, 2.4BPG 2000-2001: 30.4PPG, 15.4RPG, 3.2APG, 55.5% FG, 2.4BPG (including the Finals destruction of DPOY Mutombo) 2001-2002: 28.5PPG, 12.6RPG, 2.8APG, 52.9% FG, 2.5BPG Shaq was CLEARLY "the man" on those Laker teams. His level of dominance in that 3-peat has not really been matched in the last 20-30 years by anyone not named MJ. The Lakers didn't win the championship that season, did they? And isn't it ironic that the first post-season Kobe outscored Shaq, they were knocked out of the playoffs? Keep in mind against the Spurs that post-season Kobe shot nearly 13% worse from the field than Shaq (43% to 56%), and averaged the same amount of assists with 1 more TO.1 point
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Hmm... I didn't even say Kobe's name in my post, but since you threw the hook and worm out there... 1) Bryant had 17 game-winners when he was with Shaq. Just in case you didn't realize, game-winners are hit in the fourth quarter or overtime of games. 2) I'm guessing you don't know anything about Bryant or his fourth-quarter performances, playoffs or regular season, so I'll just let you do the research on that. You could also look up how many 50-point games Shaq had as Kobe's teammate, also...if you're curious, of course. Hint: he had two, Bryant had five, one of Shaq's being in 1998, when Kobe was barely getting minutes. "Daddy Shaq" was also pulled from a few games every season when things were close in the fourth, because he was the worst free throw shooter in the NBA (next to Ben Wallace, at least). Or, he was fouling out of games or sitting in foul trouble...fouled out of six games in 2001. 3) O'Neal had two 40-point games in the 2000-01 season. He had three in 2002-03. None in 2003-04. Sure didn't look like he dominated the team the way Jordan did Chicago, or LeBron did the Cavaliers. Looks like he may have had a lot of help from Kobe, to the tune of... 1999-2000: 22.5 PPG, 6.3 RPG, 4.9 APG 2000-2001: 28.5 PPG, 5.9 RPG, 5.0 APG 2001-2002: 25.2 PPG, 5.5 RPG, 5.5 APG 2002-2003: 30.0 PPG, 6.9 RPG, 5.9 APG 2003-2004: 24.0 PPG, 5.5 RPG, 5.1 APG (Shaq averaged under 22 PPG that season) Care to give me a second option that has put up those numbers? Just one Robin, all I'm looking for... After 2000, Shaq never averaged more shots per game than Kobe as teammates in LA. Two rings and three Finals appearances were the result of that. Can you give me a second option on a championship team that has taken 20+ shots per game, and the most on that championship team? Just curious. 4) Bryant was the best defensive player on the Lakers, hands down, during the dynasty. No need to debate it, but you can also ask those handing out the defensive awards: five for Bryant as Shaq's teammate, three for O'Neal as Kobe's. Five for Kobe without O'Neal...and zero for Shaq without Kobe. Did you know Bryant led the team in assists every championship season? That's facilitating the triangle offense AND taking the most shots per game, averaging anywhere from 25-30 points each contest, defending the best perimeter players on the court as well. Mind-boggling, huh? 5) Kobe was also doing work in the playoffs. 1999-2000: 21.1 PPG, 4.5 RPG, 4.4 APG 2000-2001: 29.4 PPG, 7.3 RPG, 6.1 APG 2001-2002: 26.6 PPG, 5.8 RPG, 4.6 APG 2002-2003: 32.1 PPG, 5.1 RPG, 5.2 APG 2003-2004: 24.5 PPG, 4.7 RPG, 5.5 APG --------- Did you see the Lakers/Kings and Lakers/Spurs games in the post-season? I'm not so sure you did, since Bryant has needed "Daddy Shaq" to bail him out in fourth quarters. Were you around to see Kobe's nine-consecutive 40's? Shaq was there for a few of them, but I think it was Kobe carrying the load. http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200302060NYK.html http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200302110LAL.html http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200302120DEN.html http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200302140LAL.html http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200302160LAL.html http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200302180LAL.html http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200302190UTA.html http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200302210LAL.html http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200302230LAL.html Just making sure you knew about them. In that stretch, there were also 13 consecutive 35+ point games, 16 consecutive 30's. LA went 13-3 in that stretch of 16, which included ALL of the games mentioned above. That was with Bryant carrying the load and bailing LA out in the fourth quarters, something you said he didn't do. Haha...look, don't bring up Kobe and Shaq. That above is not even a piece of what I have to offer in return for your foolish comments. ---------- As far as Kobe and Jordan are concerned, Jordan is the greatest player to ever play the game. Never said he wasn't. Kobe may be the most complete. Give me one weakness of Kobe's, offense or defense, that stands out...you know, like LeBron's post game, or Shaq's free throws. Neither Kobe or Jordan have a weakness in their games...so "most complete" is debatable. Kobe had Shaq, right? Jordan had Pippen (arguably the greatest perimeter defender of all-time) and in the second three-peat, he ADDED Rodman (arguably the greatest defender of all-time). Both had Phil Jackson. Jordan had a plethora of shooters, which included Kerr, Paxson, Armstrong (all-star), Kukoc and Harper. Horace Grant was no scrub...an all-star the following season after Jordan's first retirement. For his six rings, Jordan played with four all-star players: Pippen, Rodman, Grant and Armstrong (won't count the guys like Cartwright, who was an all-star in 1980). MJ didn't have Shaq, but he had more than enough to make up for it. LA was more of a superstar duo, while Chicago was the ultimate team, packed with shooters and defensive specialists. LeBron and Iverson reached the Finals with shooters and defensive-minded teammates. I think you're underestimating what damage a real team can do, which means you're underrating what Kobe has done in his career, and/or overrating what Jordan has done.1 point