^To Gamerguy, comparing J.R. to Kwame is laughable... Besides the 32 and 20 he had in a game against Kings (when he was still a Wiz), Kwame has done nothing in his career. J.R. on the other had plenty of 40 pt games, plenty of 9+ threes, plenty of "flashes of brilliance". --- Like I said I'm not basing my observation on nothing... If I said Afflalo can average 25 ppg, people will roll their eyes and I'd understand. There's a reason why J.R. is J.R. People are different, some boys will be mature (like Afflalo), some boys will have attitude and tough to reach. The reason J.R. has not developed fully is the coach, Karl... although he trusts J.R. with his court skills, he doesn't communicate eye-to-eye with him. He doesn't bother to try to reach to him... so as a result, J.R. being the defiant boy that needs guidance thought he is alienated and obviously wouldn't try to reach to Karl. Byron Scott hated him, Karl hated him once but learned to tolerate him but still not communicated very effectively. The person who can maximize his output is Phil... because this is his area of expertise, relating to players and bringing out the best in them. --- To Nitro, J.R. passes like a PG. This means you have not observed him much. Trust me, I watched many of his games... and I am not overrating him by any means. Again, I'm not a J.R. fan. This is no future "J.R. is going to lead the league in assist one day" projection... but rather a current one. It's laughable a Laker fan like Real would forget how well he passed when he was the one constantly penetrating Laker defense and dropping passes to bigs or kick it out to Billups and Kleiza in Lakers WCF two years ago. He passed so well, I remember JVG said that he didn't know J.R. could pass this well... He was the ONLY one who did this because Billups was not as explosive as him and because he had this passing skill. He was essentially our PG creating plays for others and himself and still is to some extent. He doesn't have just the passing skill but also the vision. He knows where to drop it off (bounce) perfectly so the ball goes high enough to end up in the receiver's hand level, not the knee, and they're ready to go... I've seen Allen Iverson pass to guys' knees and they have to bend over to reach the ball, breaking any movement rhythm... A lot of people can penetrate with their explosiveness, but not many of them can pass to find the guys, they usually end up committing a turnover. If you think such simple play is "simple" check the current Team USA. I guarantee 1 out of 2 times Billups penetrates, draws a second defender, and tries to dish it to his big man, he will commit a turnover... I know this cuz he's done it a lot in Denver. And he's a frickin PG. J.R. does PG stuff better than Billups, but also because he has the passing skill and more importantly vision. Too bad I can't find the youtube of J.R.'s passes... but one of them is the one above... from J.R. to Nene... it may look like a simple play and a simple pass... but trust me, not many NBA PGs can do this... it's a perfect bounce pass with one hand and with little time to react and execute through 2 defenders. Many guys would do it and they end up hitting the defender's legs or the ball goes too fast or too low the receiver does not get the ball. Or they are concerned about being intercepted and committing a turnover, so they tried to lob the ball... it is not as easy as it looks... but J.R. made it look easy. I know that it is a skill by just looking at it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmEPwMke2sA&feature=player_embedded