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The simple fact that someone took all of your guys' hard work, that's it. Nothing else. OTR only gives back to me by providing me with discussion and knowledge. I actually lose time and money doing it, just like someone trying to get rich would. Nearly six years has gone by, and I've seen nothing from it, and never will. It doesn't compare. Nope, didn't care. Made that decision off the wall one day, and already had it up and preparing it for everyone a couple of days later. I told Harry one day that I didn't even want to be on staff at JBB anymore, and that he should be glad he's not. I didn't want anything to do with sites at one point, until Dee, Erin and Jesse were getting hated on (sexually and racially) in AIM chats by a couple of JBB staff members. There was no dream, no goal, no nothing. No relation whatsoever to getting rich. You can't say that because it's an inaccurate statement. Those paralyzed may believe they will walk again, but nothing they do guarantees it. Chances are pretty slim to none for a lot of people in that position. I actually hope everyone reads the following, even though it's a book. Setting your mind to something doesn't mean it'll happen. You expect someone to, say, continue their dream of inventing something valuable to all of us, but at some point, they are going to need to focus on their well-being, their family, and that takes a paycheck. Nobody in their right mind is going to live a lonely life, mooching off of others and not doing anything to get by, just to try and invent something and avoid holding down a full-time job. Someone I know (a landlord) has numerous houses. I'll relate it to one of your own comments from earlier. Let's just say he makes $10k a month on rent, $120k a year. In eight years, he'll have a million? No, because he's probably spending at least $60k a year just living and providing for his family, maybe more than that. Double that 8.3 years and you get nearly 17. Also, he has taxes to pay on his houses, along with repairs/maintenance every year if he's a good landlord (he owns the houses, you don't). He also has to pay off his loans. He didn't steal 15-20 houses for free...some cost anywhere between $50k to $150k in my area. That 17 years turns into many, many more. Dan (the landlord I know) is in his mid-40s, has been doing this since he was in his 20s, and he's definitely not rich. He's still paying on a couple of his houses. People that live in this fantasy land don't realize what it's like to be down and out. People can definitely recover, but it takes a long time, and things rarely change. When I say down and out, I'm not talking about not having money to buy an ESPN magazine until Friday, I'm talking about things like having to work on the weekends despite having major spinal cord surgery (my dad), designing sites and staring at a computer despite having one eye patched and the other blurry, needing to blow up text 4x larger just to read it (me). Unfortunate events get in the way, and that's life. However, even without those unfortunate events, it's extremely difficult to get rich. There are families that go years without having a major situation to tend to, but while this guy wishes he was the CEO of the production factory he works for, he needs the manual labor because, without it, he has no money for a house, a car, food, gas, or anything. Most everyone doesn't get rich because life happens. Nobody ever turns down the opportunity, and not even crackheads give up trying to make as much money as they can. People end up realizing that they have to stop living through their dreams and start living for themselves, their family and even others around them. There's a guy I went to high school with, almost 10 years ago, that is still trying to rap and make money. Most everyone I know thinks he's just a bum sitting in a studio his dad bought him when he was 17, not working and still living with his parents, no girlfriend. Why do we think that? Because it's true. He's actually a decent rapper, but as stated over and over again, life is eventually going to consume him, or else he's going to be 17 for the rest of that life. Right now, it would be nice to be rich. I'd pay everything off...my house, my car, my medical bills, maybe go overseas and try to get an artificial lens implanted (in clinical trials right now). But, at some point, it hit me that it's not going to happen, and that I need to start providing for myself and for my girlfriend immediately, and helping out my parents (mainly my dad) in the process. How about you tell us, in just one sentence, what will make you rich. It shouldn't take more than one sentence. I just want to know what you're going to sell, invent, or manage, and how many years you think it'll take. Nothing more. You'll keep preaching how anything can be accomplished as long as we set our minds to it, but that's a parent talking to their young and naive kids. A parent dreams their kids become bigger than they are, so they will feed them BS to make both parties feel comfortable and confident. I spent years of my life (and still do to this day) working on my game (basketball). I took 300 shots a night, every night, for months at a time, and would dribble in the basement for hours when it was cold outside, go to the gym and just work out and shoot the ball, shoot free throws, do defensive slides, all outside of school. It never turned me into a potential Division I college basketball player, skill-wise. I believe I'm pretty good, but not to that level, and I know I've reached my peak, 110% sure of it, even though I still work on my game to this day. Still go out to the park, nearly every day, and shoot the ball and play pick-up games. Not everyone can be rich. Not everyone has that opportunity. You need to try and find a way to meet people that are far, far less fortunate than you or the average person...young adults that grew up struggling, little education, then no money for college and maybe one parent to feed them and push them to get a job at McDonald's. Maybe he's no super freak of an athlete, has no rap skills...just a typical human, like most of us, but in an extremely binding situation that, really, he has to live for and live with. There may be a couple of people on here that relate to exactly what I said, too. If ANYONE on this site knows about dreams crashing down and people struggling in general, it's me. My diabetes didn't seem to exist at one point, I was so wrapped up in making money, becoming an excellent basketball player, staying up late for college, and riding my financial wave through fantasy land. I needed to save up what I could to get my education, and part of the resolution was to not buy as much insulin and test strips (talking hundreds of dollars a month) or eat the right foods (more hundreds), so I was skipping shots and not testing my blood sugars often. I won't need to tell you the result of that once again. Set the bar too high, and you'll be walking under it the rest of your life. I'm honestly done talking about it. I'm sure everyone else will be as well.

You're so inspirational to all of us. Can you please, in 50 words or less, summarize what your [expletive]ing point is? Please?

You guys are wrong, the 2-3 months I was banned. I followed Snake's logic and his well said thoughts. I never ever flinch anymore and with that power, I made over 200,000 dollars in the last couple of months. If you dont flinch, you show power and get money.

lemme gag on him all night long, and im not even gay

I gotta admit, I'm pretty impressed with your dedication to this

Magic and Bird, we will never see anything like that again. Everyone in the NBA is friends now, the competition is so meh, the next star who comes into the league with swagger will be fined to the point they show no emotion to even create a rivalry.

I have a new download up for the WNBA teams, now including the New York Liberty and the Atlanta Dream to go with the Mercury and the Storm. I've worked pretty hard on them... and it's paying off since they're getting a good 100 downloads per day on average without me promoting it through blogs like the other top downloads, and each new uploaded roster manages to stay high in the ratings so far. Here are some pix... doing the best I can with what I got. http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv40/The_Poe/Picture33-1.png http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv40/The_Poe/Picture34-1.png http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv40/The_Poe/Picture32.png

Lebron James This sums up why http://www.gifsoup.com/view/158389/lebron-dancing-2-o.gif

http://www.backstagegfx.com/forum/uploads/U7-1287637883.jpg

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=5706315 I've just gained so much respect for Mark Schlereth.

bron needs to go gilbert on the world, and not say a word, just go out and ball and earn your respect back

Maybe because like you were saying in the other thread, Quality > Quantity?