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Wow...that's almost as gay as putting colorful horses in your avatars and sigs...almost.

Besides the commercial with you, your brother, and cousin. . I had to.................

I have no idea what you're basing all this off of, but I have no idea how Melo and Kobe have a higher rating than LeBron when he scored more than both of them with a 4-5% TS advantage as well. If you're basing this off where they score from on the field, then I can maybe understand the Melo rating, but LeBron shot better from 2 and 3pt range than Kobe did. But, keep it up regardless....

From Bill Simmons on Twitter: Doug Collins: This is the reason why the NBA is such a joke. Small market teams have no chance at all in getting any calls from the refs.

Why do you think Corey Maggette always gets to the FT line? And I don't believe he's a superstar, nor does he play for a big market team...

There you go. That's a bad call. It shouldn't have been a foul on the D, and maybe you are right about it being offensive. But one example doesn't prove much. You need to show consistency. That the refs consistently make bad calls to give star players the advantage simply because they are stars. At least 15% of calls made for superstars that shouldn't have been fouls. Likewise, also prove that the refs don't miss any foul calls against superstars. That there is a no-call less than 15% of times where the star player gets enough contact from the D where there should have been a foul call. And lastly, prove that the percentages are actually different between stars and non-star players. That stars get 30% of non-fouls called AS fouls, and that non-stars get only 5% (for example). THEN, and only then, will I be listening. Otherwise, I'll only agree with you as far as the idea that NBA refs simply suck at their job, and it needs improvement overall.

No one on Philly averaged more than 5FT's per game this season. Granger is the only one on his team that averaged more than 4FT's a game, and today he took 8 three's, with most of his 2 pointers coming off jumpshots. Coincidence that both of these teams didn't shoot many FT's today? I'm not saying there isn't superstar treatment in this league, because there is. John Wall, who relies on his ability to drive in order to score, only averaged around 5FT's a game. He gets fouled almost everytime he goes up for a lay up, and the refs hardly call it.

Maybe because superstars are SO good at scoring, teams play them extra physically - particularly around the basket - to attempt to slow down their production and as a result, the superstar gets to the free throw line. Imagine that! Ever considered the ability to get to the free throw line a skill as well? That players have an inherent ability to know how to draw more contact from their defender? Like pumpfaking to get a defender to jump into you? Imagine that! Yet, somehow the average player is supposed to get to the free throw line at the same rate? That when they aren't as much of a scoring threat and are far more likely to take spot-up jumpers and easier finishes around the basket than anything else, teams will look play them just as physically, waste a limited number of fouls, and risk getting a low option scorer a free chance to score at the strike? ESPECIALLY when the odds of the average player scoring is FAR less than a SUPERSTAR?? Sorry, I can't imagine that.

Nets fan, but nice try. I never said the refs aren't biased, but there it has little to nothing to do with being from a small or large market. Superstars do get calls other players don't get, but at the same time how many perimeter players attack the basket like Wade, LeBron and Rose do? The answer is none, they are the 3 best in the league at getting to the rim and finishing. When you are constantly attacking the basket, you will get to the FT line a lot. It is why AI at one time took over 11FTA's per game, and why his 'small market' Sixers were among the league leaders in FTA's. Also, when you attack the basket like they do, and know how to initiate and sell the contact like they do, it makes it even harder to fairly judge foul calls against them as opposed to your usual role player.

The Pacers and the Sixers were taking long jumpers, while the Bulls and the Heat were attacking the basket into traffic. If free throw distribution was always even no matter where shots are coming from or how they are defended, THEN the NBA would be a joke.

The top 2 teams this season in FTA's were small-market teams (Nuggets and Thunders), so don't give me that. Philly was bottom 5 in the league this season in FTA's per game, while Rose was attacking the basket like crazy which is why the Bulls had such a big edge against the Pacers. Neither the Pacers or Sixers have a guy that gets to the FT line anywhere near as much as LeBron, Wade or Rose do, so of course they will be at a disadvantage.

I think I was being specific enough...House can't do anything but shoot 3's at a streaky pace, and you can't put the ball in Brown's hands and expect him to score consistently like you can with Bynum and Odom. Volume is very important when you are rating a player's scoring ability, and Odom and Bynum are more capable of scoring at volume than Brown is, and they do it with much greater efficiency. I don't know how I can be more specific, especially since Brown is an undersized SG while Odom and Bynum play in the frontcourt (and Odom actually shot the 3 ball better than Brown this season, while being much better around the rim, so if you're looking for variety of ways to score effectively there is no way Brown should be ahead of Odom). I mean, I don't really know what you're trying to get at. If you're talking about player-scouting, that's subjective, while stats are objective. You can look at Synergy Sports and use some of their advanced stats on how players shoot in certain areas of the floor, off PnR's, using their left hand, etc...but the fact of the matter is that volume and efficiency are ultimately the meat-and-bones of a player's scoring ability. All that other stuff can be a neat way of giving the stat some substance, but statistically speaking volume+efficiency is how you determine a scorer's effectiveness.

lol what happened?

Come Jenneral don't let ponies run you out of OTR. Its the playoffs, stick around and enjoy it.

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I swear to God whenever Rose penetrates the lane Jon Barry is like two seconds away from squirting all over his broadcast desk.

Pretty sad that we have people on staff making the forum look like a childish shit hole. Oh well, I thought this place was for mature basketball talk. Guess that's changing. Dueces ya'll.

If this is to measure just pure scoring ability then I think a lot of these numbers are off. Guys like Durant, Kobe, Melo, Wade, LeBron, since they can score in more ways against tougher defenses specifically designed to stop them, should be off the charts higher than other players. I don't see how Tyson Chandler is higher than Hedo Turkoglu and Ray Felton when Tyson doesn't score uness it's a dunk. Josh Smith's seems a lot higher than I expect. I haven't seen him score consistently except on dunks and in transition. Also, no way Novak or Korver should be that high. Novak is no more than a spot up shooter who relies on someone else to create a shot for him. I don't know the formula but it seems like there is a scoring efficiency applied to it. Which doesn't really reflect pure scoring ability.

You should tell that story at parties bro

not horses, PONIES

Who called 9-1-1 again? .

I will say this. While Prokhorov wasn't able to capitalize on most of his immediate goals, and the Nets weren't very good, he's ran the organization the right way. The team still needs to make strides, but they aren't a laughingstock and have a reason for an exciting future. Nets fans should be cautiously optimistic.

I am the most biased, homer-ific Philadelphia fan you will find, and even I will be pleasantly surprised if this series gets to game 5. With that said, lets go do something historic boys.

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Brandon Should be a great series, should go 7. Portland has to steal one in Dallas.

These pony queers aren't funny at all tbh.

I nominate Cavamatic for being new and active