I agree that a PG's offensive abilities mean more than a PG's defensive abilities, but I was just replying to the whole "team concept' thing you threw out there. Also, a big piece of Kidd's value that you are missing is versatility. As I said before, even though he's way past his prime, Kidd's versatility to be able to defend 3 positions effectively afforded the Mavs the opportunity to give Barea and Terry way more minutes in that series than they would have got if you replaced Kidd with a regular PG who is stuck in defending just the PG position. That opportunity was the difference between a title and another Finals exit to the Heat. And in Kidd's prime, he was grabbing 7-8RPG, which was especially important in the VC years with the Nets, when the Nets had absolutely no help on the boards, and he ended up leading the team in boards 3 straight seasons. Those seasons the Nets basically were at a draw against opponents on the boards, and that's all on Kidd...any other PG and those eams would have been destroyed on the boards.