I never saw him as a troll or a bad poster. The multiple accounts, and not being able to deal with certain people on OTR (there are always guys that will trash talk you, but not push too hard so they remain a part of the community), is what eventually ruined it for him, and I think he knows that. I was aware of the multiple accounts, actually, for quite a while...broke my own rules and let him stay three separate times, talked to a couple of members here and told them to not reply to anything he says in any topic (to prevent conflict between the two), but it never ended. ------------ There's obviously a story with every banned member, a couple being pretty extreme, to the point where they'll never access their accounts again. The problem with banning people is that, a lot of times, not all of the community can figure out why because some of it is based on deleted posts. I've had MANY members mouth off in a topic, wait for someone to read it, and delete or edit those posts. Thing is, I see them, at that time or later on. I have edits in the database, and I also have all deleted posts since 2005. However, to keep me out of trouble with my host, I have to keep them edited or deleted. A handful of guys weren't aware that there were some really, really shady posters here at OTR, and to be honest, I was looking for a way to get rid of them. Guys were getting away with things, saying things to members and making it to where I couldn't do anything about it, using the PM system (which I can't interfere with, as long as they aren't spamming links, because all members here can block others), and these were issues I needed to deal with. I had to sacrifice a lot of activity going that route, but I can assure everyone that it was the right decision. We can look at other message boards and see why.