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http://www.cbssports.com/nba/gametracker/recap/NBA_20110216_IND@DET

ABOUT TIME YOU POSTED THIS, WOW... Sorry about that.

At least half of the fanbase thinks regular season games are meaningless, even though we have lost vs. the Suns (2x) and the Celtics the last three times we haven't had home court advantage in the playoffs. Seems like Kobe and Phil are the only two that seem to get pissed over losses in November/December, and throughout the rest of the season. We were just 1-2 games from losing HCA in the West last season, and lucky enough that Boston didn't win 60 in the regular season.

I'd probably make him a moderator if he wanted to join. Neither of us can do anything without our teammates.

We lost the game because we played through the post way too much, and gave ANDREW [expletive]ING BYNUM all of the shots he wanted, and he was complete trash. Shot 2-12 from the floor, if I recall correctly. This team is nothing if we aren't playing through Bryant. He sets the tone. If we turn Kobe into some spot-up shooter, we lose. He can't play that way. Pulling the ball out of his hands, trying to force him to be the player he isn't...it's why he sucked tonight, no credit to Cleveland's defenders because Bryant was out of rhythm from the start. That's what we do when Kobe is 36 and on his way out, not when he's still putting up 25/5/5 and still a superstar in the league. People are going to look at Gasol's 30/20 game and think he did wonderful out there, but he had a four-point 4th quarter and scored 20 of his 30 in the first half. His defense was also pathetic. Teams are going to figure it out...most already have. Do everything to stop Kobe, and play the Lakers like it's 2006 all over again. Play them like they are starting a lineup of Kobe, Odom, Smush, Kwame and Mihm. Unacceptable.

LOL.

Move Batum off the list, and stick in Steve Nash. In any "bad defense" category, you have to have Steve...unless they are just omitting him because he's a perennial candidate.

Haha, I think you need to flip yours around. Your "worst" is a higher tier than your "best" for all of your wrestlers, and basically, you're saying that Jack Swagger is the best in the business right now, and would be on the level of Angle and Jericho.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/gametracker/recap/NBA_20110215_PHI@MEM

Sure, but the Clippers have beaten some of the best teams in the NBA as well (Lakers, Spurs, Heat, Thunder, Bulls)...doesn't really matter. If LeBron could take the Cavaliers to the NBA Finals with "crap" for teammates (as you put it), what makes you think he wouldn't go to the Finals and win a ring THIS SEASON with Griffin and Gordon? That trio alone could be amazing. Today, a trio of Bron, Griffin and Gordon wouldn't be better than the Heat trio in terms of overall talent, but they would probably compliment each other better from the start, AND it's a fact that they would last longer, pending one of them leaving or being traded, because it's a younger core. Plus, LeBron gets to be "the man" in Los Angeles, right after Kobe exits his prime.

I changed it while you were posting, haha, no joke. I wasn't specific enough...all my fault. However... http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr160/fishbulb-suplex/Wrestlers/Jeff%20Jarrett/jarrett004.jpg Still a champ, at one point. WCW, nonetheless, but it's Vince's belt, now.

Gasol, Mayo and a filler for Drew? Hell yeah. Funny how the main picture they show, on an article relating to all 30 teams trading players, is one of Melo and Drew.

He was the Intercontinental champ numerous times.

He could be the best in the business right now...doesn't mean much. Jarrett held the WWF Intercontinental championship. He had some value to him. He's either on Jarrett's level, or on Triple H's level. He's closer to Jarrett than Trips. If I didn't know a single thing about CM Punk...never saw him on the mic, never seen him wrestle, never heard of him...and you showed me a few of his matches in the WWE, and a couple of instances with him on the mic, I'd assume he was in the Intercontinental division, fighting his way up the ladder. Just like Jarrett should've done his entire career. And...I just read that CM Punk held the World championship three times, beating Jeff Hardy (2x) and Edge. LOL, seriously? Back when wrestling was exciting, Jeff Hardy was a tag champ, and so was Edge, and neither were good enough to contend for anything above the Intercontinental championship. Running down the list for both titles, it gets more embarrassing as you scroll. The Miz, from MTV? JBL? Hardy? Mysterio? Come on, dude. The Rock's return proved just how bad it was. A Stone Cold return would've done the same thing. Same with Sting, despite him being out of his prime. Nexus? They are a worthless stable...probably good enough for an old Survivor Series match (and not even in the main event, if we're talking the 90s), but nothing lasting over one PPV night. I guess I'm spoiled. CM Punk is the best in the business right now? That just means the WWE is on life support when compared to the 90s and 2000s.

While the WWE has what I would consider an interesting amount of talent, it's more on the level of a prime Jeff Jarrett, who could piss the crowd off in a matter of seconds on the mic, and wrestle, but he wasn't that superstar that could carry the company. CM Punk is just that. So is The Miz. For decades, the WWF and WCW didn't go through a period of time where they didn't have The Rock, Hogan, Flair, Taker, Sting, SCSA, Goldberg and Lesnar, the NWO, D-X, HHH, HBK, Savage, Steamboat, Rude, Warrior...we'd have to dip far into history, even BEFORE the WWF was living off of Andre The Giant, Hogan, the Von Erich brothers, Tony Atlas, Iron Sheik, JYD, and Roddy Piper. Right now, the meal ticket is John Cena, who is overrated on the mic and has little wrestling skills. CM Punk could go back to his roots, given the freedom to say and do what he wants, but he's not a true superstar. Maybe in ECW or TNA, but no successful company can be built (or maintained) with him riding shotgun alongside someone like Vince.

Nah, she was a Sonics fan. Welcome to the best.

He's right, though. It wouldn't change too much just by sticking Cena and Orton on the list. He listed a guy that still belongs on reality TV, yet holds a title (and not just some title, but the WWE Championship, at that). Aside from last night's show (meaning, the other two Raw shows I've watched in the last month, and those I've tuned into once every 3 months or so), wrestling has been terrible. About 10% of the roster can actually wrestle and sell moves well, and guys like Morrison, even though they can be exciting, are nowhere near the place HBK was.

Kobe only wears it because I do. I had one before he even knew about them. He only wishes he was me.

Shawn Michaels is in the cabin, Undertaker is outside of it. http://i53.tinypic.com/2rrs2ko.jpg That's Michaels. You can tell by the mouth, and it looks like he has a hairy chest. OR it's HHH. http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/3328/hbkwm25.jpg He's turning into a dark HBK. Rising from the dead. No grave can hold him down (his career). Wanna hear the song AGAIN? It was HBK/Taker's promo song in WM26. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C54J6QLMMmQ Seems really easy to figure out now.

Yeah, wrestling outside of the WWF (I'm done calling it the WWE) and maybe TNA (never watched it, just assuming)...it's horrible. Also, I read somewhere that this was done by some no-name federation, to try and get noticed, and it actually worked...ended up on SportsCenter in the Not Top 10 plays, and is a YT hit.

That's not true, actually. The company admitted that the bands had no scientific proof that they do anything. Big difference. I have one, wear it every day. The balance/strength tests work, and I did them over and over, and over, and over again...band on and off. Freaked my ass out. If it's a mental thing, so be it...but they do SOMETHING. I had no reason to botch the test, and was a skeptic when I first tried it...laughed, criticized, the whole thing. Now I wear it.

Gordon will expect the Clippers to build around them, but we all know who's untouchable and which player the franchise should build aroud. In due time, EG will want out because of it, through free agency or a trade.

Alright, time to start watching again. I saw it tonight. This is the wrestling I remember...none of that garbage I tuned into a few months back (sorry, current fans). And by the way...the third promo for Taker, it wasn't just for him. He was in the house. They showed his face. Someone else was outside, in a similar trench coat. Sting coming back to fight Taker at WM? The Rock destroys a heel Cena? Please be true. I'll spend money.

That's not going to change my mind. If he was Jason Kidd, Steve Nash, or some old vet that's chasing a ring, I'd understand. Malone, Payton...ring-chasing. For what LeBron wants (to ring-chase, like a 15-year veteran), the Heat weren't his best choice right now. He could've taken the MLE and came to the Lakers and played in the triangle, or went to Boston. If he wanted better teammates, but wanted to preserve his legacy and be the sole leader of a championship team (Griffin is an all-star, not a superstar), he would've went to the Clippers, or to New Jersey, or New York. Technically, his best bet was to team up with Durant or Griffin. Both are very young. Wade is 29 years old and is on the same road as Allen Iverson, in regards to being injured (and playing with injuries) all season long. LeBron, Griffin and Gordon...or LeBron, Durant and Westbrook...those are two scary trios right now. They would be in the WCF, at least. There's no guarantee that they would get past the Lakers, but there's also no guarantee that LeBron's Heat are going to get past the Celtics (0-3 against them this season).

Durant and Westbrook, mainly because Griffin and Gordon aren't going to stay together.