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Even though I posted the topic, I didn't realize just how low that oppFG% was for the 08 Celtics. :o

Most definitely, he's better than Okur. It's just difficult to find a good comparison because, for me, he's sitting in the middle, between Dirk and Okur.

Gotta add Sonny Weems, and also Stephen Curry, before he becomes an all-star.

He actually got a piece of Rubio's shot attempt first, then Rudy's, to end the game. Good stuff, though. I still think we would've lost to a Spain team with Pau Gasol. Marc isn't an offensively talented as his brother, so it's not a big deal to stick Odom on him. Rubio is amazing. Rose blew past him a few times, but he's got quick hands and is a stellar passer.

Pinned the topic. I was going to create separate topics for the preseason games, but I decided against it. Doesn't seem like there's much activity just yet.

I think CDR would've been nice to keep if he actually wanted to play for the Nets...but Lee seemed to have hit a wall. Murphy will contribute, even in spurts, and he'll do so while having a positive attitude. You can't go wrong with that.

Eddie Jones averaged 20/5/4 in a season once, and is a three-time all-star. I wouldn't consider him a non-star. He was an excellent player, offense and defense. I would say Kirk Hinrich, but I consider him a star (borderline all-star at full health). So...I'll have to say players drafted out of KU (Chalmers, Rush are two non-stars) and Derrick Caracter.

1985-1986 Boston Celtics 67-15 record, NBA champions Offensive Rating: 111.8 (3rd of 23) Defensive Rating: 102.6 (1st of 23) Team FG%: 50.8% Team 3PT%: 35.1% Opp FG%: 46.1% Opp 3PT%: 27.0% C - Robert Parish | Greg Kite PF - Kevin McHale | Bill Walton SF - Larry Bird | Scott Wedman SG - Dennis Johnson | Rick Carlisle PG - Danny Ainge | Jerry Sichting COACH - KC Jones ----------------------------------------- 2007-2008 Boston Celtics 66-16 record, NBA champions Offensive Rating: 110.2 (10th of 30) Defensive Rating: 98.9 (1st of 30) Team FG%: 47.5% Team 3PT%: 38.1% Opp FG%: 41.9% Opp 3PT%: 31.6% C - Kendrick Perkins | PJ Brown PF - Kevin Garnett | Leon Powe | Glen Davis SF - Paul Pierce | James Posey SG - Ray Allen | Tony Allen PG - Rajon Rondo | Eddie House COACH - Doc Rivers ----------------------------------------- The numbers seem to favor the 1986 Celtics just a bit, but would you say the two teams are close in terms of overall play?

One bad pitch could bring a home run. A bad throw is less likely to result in a touchdown. It's hard for me to look at it that way. Bad offense in football can be bailed out by great defense and poor offense by the opponent, also.

Which position gives the athlete the most responsibility when it comes to winning and losing?

That bad? I don't know about that. Just watching him at the four (when he played it every now and then, wasn't too often), he was pretty effective. By the numbers, his PER was 28.7 and allowed PER was 9.3...which is amazing, but of course, it comes with playing limited minutes at that position. And it is PER. But we're talking a guy that put up 14/10 on 55% FG in the regular season, and doing it behind Johnson, Crawford and Smith. People are high on Andrew Bynum and his post skills, saying he'd be an all-star if he wasn't always injured, but Horford's numbers are just as impressive, and his defense is actually better (Drew suffers from a lot of defensive lapses due to missing brain cells, and partially because he has to keep an eye on Fisher's man every game). I could definitely see a team winning it all with Horford playing third scoring option. Second might be a stretch, depending on who you have around him (a trio of Melo, Horford and CP3 could at least get into the Finals even if Horford had more FGA than Paul).

He won't be back in time. Not from that injury.

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Nervous already. -_-

I'm still trying to figure out why Eddie House is getting asked questions by the media.

Things changing? Beaubois just had surgery on that broken foot a week or two ago, said to miss 2-3 months, right? Maybe Dallas will bring him off the bench for a while, starting Caron and Marion both. If not, and he makes it back for the opener and starts...I would bring Marion off the bench. He's a defensive-minded player, but he's not good enough to earn a spot in the five over Caron...not anymore, at least...and I think Butler's play will complicate things if Terry is raking in the majority of his minutes in the same five.

Looking down the roster, you have decent second and third options... Josh Smith Al Horford Jamal Crawford Mike Bibby But where does Joe Johnson fit in, really? Is he a legit primary option, or is he better suited as someone's sidekick? Is this why the Hawks struggle so much come playoff time?

Assuming the front office wants to build around Evan Turner, who all would you keep on the roster? Why would you trade or waive those who you wouldn't keep?

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