Real Deal

There's nothing to joke about. And by the way, for those who don't want to read, I made it very clear to stop attacking members in your status updates. The next time, I'm not going to delete the status...I'm going to hand out a 10-day suspension, and also ban your ability to update your status for three months. Do NOT post about other members in your status updates if you're going to attack/ridicule them. Mods are advised to just suspend the member for 10 days, then PM me immediately after the suspension is given, and I'll take care of the rest.

The nameservers changed on me...so for those who are having trouble accessing the site, you should be fine by tomorrow (well, today...haha). Sorry about that.

This is probably going to be the last time I'm going to say it to some of you. Change the way you talk to other members. Don't attack them, don't bypass the word filter, don't post in their topics or reply to them to ridicule them. New members, veteran members, whatever...doesn't matter. Don't do it anymore. I put OTR up in 2005 to get away from that stuff. Other staff members from my previous site (one that I moderated) were attacking three members, with racist, sexist and obscene statements. I went off on them in an AIM chat, ditched the site, and built OTR from the ground up. The last thing I will do is let a member (or a group of members) ruin all of it. So, starting tomorrow, things will change...and it won't be the site. It will be the community. If I don't see the changes immediately, I will start pulling privileges from individual accounts...including status updates (where you should NOT be talking about other members), post privileges, and even browsing abilities. I promise that I will not think twice, no matter who the member is, and those who are on board will continue on.

LMAO, I never said that. For one, Manhattan (K-State) isn't even in Kansas, in my opinion. It's a black hole in the Earth. Beasley can still be a good player, whatever, but I never said I loved him or his game, or the Wildcats. Hate everything about them, their city, and I can't stand most of their fans. Hinrich and Collison, Chalmers, all of those guys...they are Jayhawks. Different planet. I remember saying Derrick Rose had the potential to be an excellent player, and it was evident when Calipari let him go at KU hard for 20 minutes, and he was killing us. What I said to you was that you shouldn't judge him so quickly as a current NBA player, because you were telling us he was already the most athletic player in the history of the game, and that was before he even played a single minute in the league. And, well, you're doing it again...except now, you're really putting your neck out there. While it was easier to say Rose is the most athletic player of all-time (because he ranks up there, but he's not) or to say he's going to be one of the best point guards in the league, you're comparing Cousins (who has yet to play a single pro game) to Nene (who Cousins doesn't really play like). Comparing stats? Okay...you can get away with that. Comparing games? No. Big difference.

How long has it been going on? I haven't been on the site much in the last couple of days (moving into a new house), but when I have, I haven't ran into the problem. Blazing fast for me.

Since Beasley was from K-State, I was defending him? Haha, I absolutely HATE the Kansas Staten Wildcats and everything about them. You're definitely wrong there. I'm not sure why you're bragging about all of that. How did your "fearless prediction" turn out, when the Lakers were supposed to lose to Boston in five games? Please, dude.

Minimum three-year contract in sign-and-trade situations...so if Orlando works up a S&T, you can expect Barnes' contract to be three years or longer.

Haha, yes, because the entire Denver Nuggets team could win a championship...if they wanted to. You've said the same thing about Carmelo, and I believe JR Smith as well. Afflalo could be a 15 PPG scorer, if he wanted to...right? So, basically, if they all wanted to play...they would, and they would be a dynasty. We know.

It must be the "thing" to become the most hated team, players AND fanbase in the NBA these days...and the funny thing is, it has absolutely nothing to do with winning championships, since those guys have yet to even play a single NBA game. Like players, like fans.

Matt, chill out with the attacks and bypassing the censor.

Because both Magic and Bird were drafted to those teams. They didn't go ring-chasing...they stayed where they were and led those teams to championships. LA was a 47-win team before getting Magic. Boston was a 29-win team before Bird. Worthy, McHale and Parish weren't in the mix yet, either. LeBron's situation doesn't even compare.

Loving all of the home runs being drilled in this topic. I'm proud for those showing respect to those who died in one of America's biggest tragedies. Get off the Lakers fans' asses. Take a look back and count the many non-Lakers fans who are against it. There are more of those than there are Lakers fans. Looking back at your posts, I can predict you probably won't be here very much longer.

I wouldn't kill anyone by saying befriending someone is like killing them, either...but it would be a stupid comment, nonetheless. Doesn't make it morally correct. Weird connections? Nah, I expected this, actually. Hey, me closing down OTR would be like an atomic bomb dropping on Hiroshima...I wonder how the Japanese would feel reading that. Maybe Wade should've lost someone in that WTC incident. I'm betting he wouldn't be bringing it up, then.

They are nothing alike. Cousins will have a better jumper, already has better positioning on the boards, and...well, there's nothing to compare. As far as what he will be like in a year, that's a big statement considering he hasn't played a single NBA game yet. More people will remember Cousins at the end of his career, versus those remembering Nene.

Yeah, it's morally incorrect to compare a basketball loss to a life lost, let alone two consecutive games lost to thousands of lives. Are you telling us it's good to compare the two? If you aren't saying that, it's morally incorrect. If your statement holds water, I can say befriending someone is like killing them. I stand by what I said earlier. If this was any other player not on the Heat, or if this was LeBron James saying this one year ago (when all of you disliked him), it would be a much different story...and it looks like we all know this.

A year ago, if LeBron had made this comment, he would be looked down on by Heat fans. Fact. That's the only reason why it's funny today. Weird...because the WTC incident was nothing to "blow out of proportion." It was nothing to twist. How does it relate? It doesn't. But of course, there's a reason behind it.

Until he drops the weight, Cousins is an NBA center. Weighing that much, he would get embarrassed by versatile power forwards.

Haha, no, none of us think so. Just a funny, awesome and accurate comment.

I just hope Wade stays classy. I'm praying LeBron and Bosh's cockiness doesn't rub onto him, because I actually like Wade as a player and as a person.

Not a superstar trio...two superstars and an all-star. Toronto fans are irate about what Bosh did, but I think everyone else expected him to team up with LeBron OR Wade. At one point, he actually said he was waiting on LeBron to make a decision. In fact, it was Bosh who made the first move, going to Miami. Once that was taken care of, LeBron should've decided he was going to put that duo to sleep by teaming up with Amare, or Rose, or Griffin and Gordon, or going to Jersey and teaming up with Harris, Lopez and Favors. Becoming a basketball god in his own city. Unfortunately, he went to Dwyane Wade's city, and because of that, it will always be his city. He will always be the longer-tenured player there, with more rings (assuming he doesn't get traded later, or injured for good), probably more loved than LeBron as well. That is indeed a legacy-killer, and past champions look at that as a cowardly act. It's always fun to go to the park, team up with two of the best players on the court and just demolish a weak team...but at the end of the day, you want a real game, and you want to win that real game. You want to see those good players lose because you led a team without them. Jordan and Kobe are those two players. There are others...but I can't say LeBron is one anymore, which is sad because he could've done it had he decided to recruit hard for the Cavaliers, or team up with Rose, Amare, or Griffin. Hell, he could've went to Washington to team with his friend, Wall, and made a stronger push for a ring...and he would've made the city his. Miller would've stayed, Hinrich would be there, Blatche would be a better forward, Josh Howard could've come back, Ilgauskas would follow, and I'm sure they would be looking indestructible today. So many possibilities, but he chose the absolute easiest road other than going straight to the Lakers for the MLE.

http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/07/18/heat-supporting-cast-has-become-better-than-expected What.

Because Bosh isn't a legit primary option on a championship team, no matter what he thought a month ago. He's an all-star, not a superstar.

You can have him.

I wonder if that's how Wade felt about last year's Heat team...you know, the one he doesn't have anymore.