Real Deal

Man, no stream, and I'm blacked out on NBATV, can't get it on League Pass. WOW.

You can post stream links in topics, just can't create new topics just for the links.

It was the skin editing, I forgot to recache the skins. My apologies...should be fine now.

Haha, thanks Dee. I'm gonna take a small break...blood pressure has been a bit high all day, stupid meds don't work or something...but I'll continue these ASAP.

That's probably why Nazr got up after the elbow and approached him, actually. I'm surprised Joakim Noah or someone else from Chicago didn't do this in the first round of the playoffs last year.

Allen Iverson and Thaddeus Young added to Philly's banner (with Andre Iguodala).

Game will be on NBATV, for anyone interested in watching it (should be all of you).

Jason Thompson and Kevin Martin added to the Kings forum (with Tyreke Evans). Aaron Brooks and Luis Scola added to Houston's forum (with Trevor Ariza). I'm still keeping Yao off the banner, as he won't be playing the entire season...and if Tracy McGrady comes in and contributes more than any of those three above, I'll more than likely replace one with him.

Hit refresh in those forums. You shouldn't see any old banners at this point.

So it's... C - Dalembert PF - Brand SF - Young SG - Iguodala PG - Iverson Right?

Team banners are up...but just 30 of them (one player per). I'll add the rest of the players soon.

If he was a competitor, he would sign with a team he can play on, and actually earn his ring, not Darko his way to a championship like a [expletive]. Or go back home and help the Sixers make the playoffs, raise their attendance and give the fans hope. If you're still capable of putting up 20+ a game, you don't coattail a contender, you make it your own to become a vital piece in one. When Iverson gets 38 years old and still doesn't have a ring...maybe he can sign with a contender and come off the bench, letting guys like LeBron and Wade do everything. It's too bad he's not that old yet, so being a leech is not an option, or else Michael Jordan wasn't a real competitor when he signed with Washington for two years.

Wow Sean, thanks for the summary. That was perfect. Going to watch the video anyways...but that helps tremendously with the discussion. I find this funny... Now, from discussing this with other members here a while back, they believed that Donaghy altered those games he bet on and was a referee in. Guess that's not the case anymore, and I'll go ahead and use a quote many others were posting: "Why would he lie?" Now, here's an inconsistency... But he says this... Doesn't exactly make sense. What's the difference between those two situations?

Because I like posting in topics that aren't getting much activity while I'm checking on new posts.

One announcer did, the other didn't. The argument about losing possession before or after his forearm touched is based heavily on what knocked the ball out, if logic reasoning is used. He didn't just let the ball go, did he? The hit caused it to fumble, and the ball was out of his hand and below his other forearm right before his wrist touched, as seen in the still pictures I provided. Otherwise, gravity caused the ball to fumble from his tuck, and based on the still pictures, the ball was stuck on his jersey using some sort of glue or powerful static, which probably means he still had possession. The first explanation makes sense. The second doesn't. The booth and refs saw what I did, and that's why they reversed it. I'll believe those guys before I take into account anything an announcer says, especially when it was clear as day for me when viewing the stills. Not going to change your mind anyways, but that doesn't really matter...it was called the right way.

Kobe with 26 points, nine boards...leader for the game in both categories, both teams considered. Love the work he's doing on the glass lately.

Or a sign-and-trade after everything he gave the Miami Heat...but the organization would be completely foolish to trade him to a contending East team, so the chances of that happening are slim to none.

Anyone else get this feeling that Jason Richardson wishes Kobe Bryant didn't even exist? Bryant was abusing him on the block the last game, and now he's just killing him on the perimeter this one.

Well, see, it was different until that last board update...so that's where I was confused. I remember everyone griping about the "new" View New Content link a month or more ago. I've never used either until the complaints, and that was only to check out what's wrong. I have to read every topic anyways, scrolling down the board and through the forums, so those links do nothing for me, lol. Thanks for the clarification.

Well, back in 2006, we were hitting 1000 posts per day. Since I started pressing for activity in topics like this, we've increased our post counts from 200 PPD to nailing over 500 in our last two days, and hitting 564 today with still one full hour to go. When people know it's time to step up, they step up. If we dropped below 100 per, and they were mostly off-topic, I don't see a reason to continue with it...but really, for me, that's unrealistic, so I should never consider that in the first place.

Either way, awesome win by the Saints. It's great to see them undefeated.

The wrist was down and the ball was already coming out, easy to see even with one eye. It wasn't tucked in right after the hit, very evident in the replays you can watch. If the hit didn't cause the fumble, gravity must have...and that just sounds pretty ridiculous. As for the other comment...just sayin...you sound bitter. No biggie if you aren't.

Wrist, if anything...ball was coming out right before his hand even hit the ground (something had to knock it loose, and it was the hit). I'd be pissed if the Saints won, too, except I'm a Raiders fan.

Guess so. http://i48.tinypic.com/o0b5th.jpg http://i45.tinypic.com/2cqibnc.jpg

It's more about losing the discussion, honestly. If we don't have basketball discussion, members don't have anything to discuss...and for that sole reason, I don't see the need to keep the site up. I don't want us ever turning into an off-topic site. I'll do whatever it takes to prevent that. If I fail, then so be it...but I have enough confidence in everyone else to hold their ground and help me with that. Basketball discussion is most important, and providing a place for everyone to talk about the games and the news is all I'm ever after. If that changes despite my efforts, I can't say it's worth keeping OTR alive. EDIT: I actually believe that's what you were getting to.