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He didn't play in Washington because he has the IQ of a doorknob, and he's much more finesse over physical, which isn't a good thing because the Wizards have been a terrible defensive team for the last decade now. Ramos is just another six fouls.

Stating the obvious.

You want Miller to start, because Foye can create his own shot. Miller would be an excellent spot-up shooter in a five including Arenas, Butler and Jamison. Bringing him off the bench, you'll have to depend on a scoring threat (and an able-bodied passer) to get him his 15 a game, and I'm not sure if that would happen in that scenario.

That's crazy. I would've never guessed that he'd do something like that. But for the record, I didn't talk to Nick much. Kirk and I were better friends. Nick was always too busy with his female crowd.

Hedo hasn't even taken a single shot for the Toronto Raptors. As far as I'm concerned, he's not even on a list of any kind. Vince Carter is the best player to suit up for Toronto, and it's really not even close. Bosh comes in second, Damon Stoudamire a close third, and Jalen Rose behind him.

Blah. Hook me up with a screenshot, please.

You forget three things: 1) There were eight to nine teams in the league when Russell and the Celtics won nine of their titles. Ironically, that was through the first ten seasons of Russell's short 13-year career. 2) In 1961 (just picking Russell's first MVP), there were a total of three seven-footers in the league: Wilt, Swede Halbrook and Walter Dukes. To take it a step further, Walter Dukes was the only seven-footer in the NBA when Russell was a rookie. In Russell's last season in the league, there were six seven-footers in the NBA, along with 14 NBA teams. Russell was the seventh-best scorer on the team (9.9 PPG) and shot a horrific 43% from the field as the starting center and tallest player on that team (and possibly the tallest player on the Celtics from 1956 until he retired, but that's just a guess). 3) Russell never shot 47% or better from the floor in all 13 seasons he played, and he shot under 45% nine times. He also shot under 40% in the playoffs four times, and shot over 50% just once. Wilt led the league in field goals nine times. He led the league in scoring seven-consecutive times (not counting the season he didn't play). He led the league in rebounding 11 times in 13 full seasons (14 seasons total). He won the MVP his rookie season. I could go on and on...but I won't. Russell was a glorified rebounding machine, and that's it. He was a bad offensive player that took 16-18 shots per game, just to score under 20 points...and above everything else, he didn't and could never touch Wilt. It's a shame that there weren't 30 teams in the NBA back in the 60's. I'd much rather jump into competitions that give me a one-in-eight chance to win, especially when there's only one or two other guys that should be able to slow me down because of their size and talent.

You're the man.

Well, as much as I hate everything about the Chiefs, Tony is probably one of the only reasons they have ever gotten into the red zone since as far back as I can remember.

Ah, had no idea. I figured Detroit gave him a longer contract, but I guess that wouldn't make sense, since they have been so geared on the 2010 free agent class.

Sonny Weems is my boy. Put me on SportsCenter. But he's not going to contribute much in the league or for the Raptors, and Amir is overpaid. Then again, Toronto just found a way to get rid of Ukic (who, as Steve said above, was complaining) and Delfino. Not much to say about the deal. Definitely nothing to be excited about, for either team, although Toronto could use the size.

Wonder how fast Hanson could've ran away if he didn't get stuck...

Alex, didn't you write that? You and Bill Simmons, backyard brawl.

He's posted more topics in any team forum than anyone else on the site, I believe.

So good at many things? If you contest Rajon's jumper, he misses it. He schooled Bryant? Because Bryant left him open to shoot, so he could defend Ray Allen, who was schooling Fisher. In fact, Phil Jackson stated that Bryant was free to roam defensively, because he didn't need to respect Rondo's shot. That's why Rondo shot 20-53 (37.7%) in the Finals against Bryant, including 1-7 in Game 5 and 8-20 in the Game 6 you are telling me he dominated Bryant in. He was smoked by Rose in Game 1 because Boston actually trusted his man-to-man defense (ended up double-teaming Rose for the rest of the series). Billups, Hinrich, Kidd...all better defensive point guards, and there aren't very many other points that actually play defense other than those guys, Rondo, Chalmers and Pargo (sure I'm missing someone). And Rondo didn't defend Bryant by himself. Not once. Not in the Finals. I've seen the series three times now, and I'm pretty sure it had a lot to do with Posey, Brown and Garnett stepping into Bryant's face each and every time he touched the ball or drove in. Rondo has absolutely no post game. His footwork is average on his best day. He's got a ways to go.

He schooled Kobe? Please dude. Just because a Lakers fan doesn't think Rondo is sixth on your list doesn't mean you can go attack his team. Mature a bit.

Boston can knock out both the Cavs and the Magic this time around, pending any significant injuries. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Lakers and Celtics in the Finals in 2010.

Carter isn't a better passer than Hedo. Turk has better court vision. Vince is the overall better player, though. I'm just not sure if he's going to make up for what Orlando lost in Turkoglu AND Lee.

Rondo is overrated, defensively. He's pretty damn lucky Boston started double-teaming Rose, or else they would've lost that series in the playoffs, and Rose would've averaged 30.

Kidd and Miller, but I don't think Nelson could've averaged a near triple-double in the playoffs, like Rondo did. Rondo is the better defender, better rebounder, almost better at everything other than shooting the ball.

I'd stick Jameer over Andre Miller. 1) Chris Paul 2) Deron Williams 3) Tony Parker 4) Steve Nash 5) Chauncey Billups 6) Devin Harris 7) Derrick Rose 8) Rajon Rondo 9) Jameer Nelson 10) Jason Kidd 1-9 are all-stars, or potential all-stars. Kidd doesn't get that close anymore.

Haha, you are cheating by putting both Paul and Deron. You gotta pick one or the other. But nice list, nonetheless. I have to put Rose over Kidd and Rondo. Kidd has been on a steady decline for a while now, and he's nowhere near the offensive player he used to be. And Rose is right there with Rajon, but I'm taking Derrick for the simple fact that he's a legit franchise player, while Rondo isn't.

Welcome to the best. I'll have up a customized Utah Jazz team forum soon...so stick around.

There SHOULD be a user CP now. I still need to fix the top links.

No can do. You guys know me too well.