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They have cap space to add pieces through free agency. They already have an All-Star PG and an All-Star caliber center on top of having the cap space. They could draft Turner, look to free agency for a guy like Amare and cover more needs. Turner is more mature than Wall. He'll blend in better with a free agent scorer like Amare because he can create open shots from more places on the floor. You have Turner posting up and Amare spotting up from 18 feet on the weak side. Great. And Turner is a better rebounder than Wall too, so Amare would have help with the boards too and you know he needs it. I'm just sayin, that's 1 scenario. You could take Wall in another scenario and trade Harris, but who's to say you'd get a good deal on Harris as he's coming off a down year?

Turner looks like a Brandon Roy clone to me. I would say Turner has more explosiveness than Roy had coming out, and to be honest, I think his potential is greater than that of Roy's, and I really like Roy too. Turner has more straight line speed than Roy from what I've seen... with and without the ball. They're about the same when it comes to shifty moves and quickness (maybe Roy has a tad more jerk in his game)... Roy wants to power up off of two feet more than Turner. Turner likes to do either... he can go quick off one foot and finish high or power up off two feet and finish strong or use touch. John Wall has the better left hand and Wall will drive left and finish with the left hand- exploding off the right leg... and Wall is willing to do this every time if you give it to him... he has no dominant hand which makes him really dangerous. Turner is definitely the best player in college basketball, but even more than that- he's got a pro's game with pro size/strength. And Turner has a frame that can add strength. He fits into virtually every system at one of three positions. If he were in the triangle offense, he'd be a pinch post nightmare because he can stick the mid-range jumper and/or playmake from many different spots on the floor. Dude can post up, he makes good decisions in the open court, he sticks his nose in the paint and owns the boards... Turner just basically handles business out there. If the Wizards can draft him, he would be the ideal backcourt partner to Gilbert Arenas. If we're able to resign Mike Miller, we'll have a very solid team next year with cap space. I'd absolutely love our future if we can get the #1 or 2 pick. Hell, I might even say Turner is the better pick for us than John Wall.

Best battle so far, but I gotta go with Legacy, loved how he referenced the Dwight-Shaq fued. Legacy - 5 Swish - 4

We love to talk about dominance, when you take a look at the all time greats, what sticks out to you the most? Stats? Accolades? Well, I want you to focus on the fundamentals only. There are players like Reggie Miller and Allen Iverson who are offensively dominant players. There's the Ben Wallace's and Dennis Rodman's of the league that give you their best each time down the floor on defense. Then there's the two way players like Michael Jordan and Hakeem Olajuwon who simply give you their best on both ends of the court. Hakeem's the most skilled offensive and defensive force the league has ever seen at the center position. Think about it... Is there one weakness you can point out with Hakeem? He could do it all, pass, run the court, leads the league in all time blocked shots, score from the post and hit the midrange jumper, steal the ball, and lead a team to 2 titles. There was no holes in his game. Michael Jordan, as we all know, simply redefined the shooting guard position. Not only was he statistically dominant through nearly his whole career, he did it while being a great defender. Some call him one of the greatest perimeter defenders of all time. There's no denying what he can do on both ends of the court. I must say, for everything Jordan did on defense, Hakeem did it better. It showed up on the stat sheet for him, but most importantly, he simply shut down opposing centers. He had all the intangibles, understood the game, and was relied upon far more than Jordan was for the Bulls on defense.

Hakeem was at the back end of his prime when he faced Shaq who was at his physical peak... and Hakeem did away with him easily in the finals. Hakeem was more polished than Shaq in every way, be it offensively or defensively. A lot less holes in his game. A lot less ego and a lot more class also for him as well. Hakeem's the most skilled offensive and defensive force the league has ever seen at the center position... Talk all you want about Shaq's domination... Shaq faced lesser quality big men and old centers in his prime. Hakeem, other than Ben Wallace, was the only center with enough lateral quickness and footwork to check guards on the perimeter. Hakeem was a great defender of the pick and roll and obviously the all time leader in shots blocked at the rim. Hakeem all day... under any circumstance. I need a bucket at the end of the game... I go to him... If he's fouled, he'll hit his free throws. Hakeem could hit shots from all over the court, therefore he's also the bigger threat down the stretch of a nailbiter... In the same way that you would go to Tim Duncan before Shaq in the clutch. Think about it... Is there one weakness you can point out with Hakeem? I mean really. I know people love Shaq and his style/dunks, but Hakeem is without a doubt the better ballplayer.

Skill wise, but Kareem was much more dominant.

I remember reading a great article written by BFT about this topic, and he chose Kareem Abdul Jabbar. After reading it, I was convinced. 1. Wilt was a giant, he was 7'2 in an era where other centers were 6'7, maybe 6'8. Willis Reed was a hall of fame center and he was 6'9 and 235 pounds. That's Kurt Thomas for crying out loud. 2. There was no three second violation. Wilt was allowed to just camp in the lane, and since he was taller than everyone it made for an easy entry pass. All big men scored at a ridiculously high percentage but Wilt was able to get the most inside passes because of his size advantage and the fact that he didnt have to move away from the basket. 3. He played in an era with a high scoring pace, more shots per minute lead to more point and rebound opportunities, which leads to bloated stats. All starting front court players averaged AT LEAST 10 rebounds, lets not forget this is the same era oscar averaged his triple double either. And as for all the Shaq lovers out there, he may be the most dominant of any era, but he doesn't have the longevity that most of the great centers had. So, I will go with Kareem Abdul Jabbar.

Magic Johnson, no one could stop him on the fastbreak.

I like this, Wizards need more players like JHo. He'll probably be a starter next year as well, assuming we don't draft a SF this year..

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Nice list RD, completely agree. Love the SJax pick, very underrated IMO.

Because stats only tell me half the story.. I hope you're not implying that Kobe uses his fundamentals better than Jordan did.. If anything, they're on the same level.

Yeah I think that's probably best until Ted Leonsis buys the team.

Like I said, I truly do not believe the excuse that player X shoots more long range jumpers therefore we shouldn't use FG% in an argument. Jordan knew what he had to do in order for him to score, and that was to use his athleticism and drive to the basket, or post up on a defender and fadeaway on him. Am I admitting Kobe has a better three point shot? Of course I am, but that one aspect alone doesn't make him the more talented player on offense. With all things considered (passing, scoring, etc), I don't see how you can't go with Jordan. I didn't bring up all that math for no reason though. I used it to show how effective Jordan is with the ball in his hands as opposed to Kobe. Stats are stats, there's no way to prove otherwise. It's all there. With Kobe and Jordan both taking the same amount of shots, Jordan was the one who came out on top with the higher scoring average. I used "the shot" as an example, not as a justification for how much better Jordan is in the clutch. I openly admitted the fact that Kobe is the better clutch performer, I have nothing but respect for him, believe me. BUT, that shot is just a taste of how good Jordan was, and how skilled he was on offense.

These are amazing. Wow RD, very impressive. For owners, I don't know if you should put Abe Pollin.. Maybe just put the Pollin Family?

Riot - 6 iBoldin - 3 I like Riot's verses, flow is much better, and overall I like the way he executed his rhymes.

IMO promoting a few team mods would help keep the forums active. Just my two cents. I'll try to step it up B, you do an amazing job with the site along with the rest of the staff.

So let me get this straight, because Kobe takes more ill-advised shots over multiple defenders, we should cut him some slack? No, FG& is FG%, there's no exceptions to this. There's no point in throwing in players like Bynum, this is Jordan vs Kobe, let's leave it to that. So... let's take Kobe's FGA per game from 2004.... Kobe Bryant 04 18.1 FGA per game, 24.0 PPG Michael Jordan 89 22.2 FGA per game 32.5 PPG Now do this... 18.1 divided by 22.2 = .8227 .8227 x 32.5 = 26.7 PPG So you see, who you play with doesn't change the RATE at which you score. In fact, if other players are drawing attention, you might actually score at a higher rate. For example, when Jordan was young and athletic, he shot a higher % with Pippen and Grant than he did without them (85-87). So, you can bring Karl Malone and Gary Payton into the equation, and you can throw Reggie Miller in there to if you want to. It doesn't change the FG%. So if you give Jordan Kobe's EXACT number of shots in 2004, here is the comparison you would get: Kobe Bryant 18.1 shots per game, 24 PPG, 43.8% FG Michael Jordan 18.1 shots per game, 26.7 PPG, 53.8% FG Which one looks MARKEDLY better than the other? You can go on and on about "waaa, Kobe had to share with Shaq...." Okay... in 2002, Kobe shoots 20.0 shots per game and averages 25.2 PPG. Again... in 1989, Jordan shoots 22.2 FGA per game and averages 32.5 PPG... on TWO extra shots. 20 divided by 22.2 = .9009 x 32.5 = 29.2 PPG So, you give Jordan those same shots that POOR Kobe had to live with, and he's scoring 4 more PPG... in a game where one possession can make or break you in quality matchups, I'd say that's significant. Kobe is also not more skilled than Jordan. Take "the shot" v. Cleveland. How many players can go full speed toward their off hand, then jump going left, suspend themselves in air while squaring up, and then hit a true elimination shot (an elimination shot means... you hit it, you win a series, you miss it, you lose a series) from the free throw line. What "ridiculous shot" has Kobe hit that measures up to that? What about the game-tying shot down the stretch in game 3 of the 91 Finals. MJ drives full court past Scott, then pulls up, gets a running jumper off barely over the tips of Divac's hand, HIGH arching and comes down nothing but net. Not what the corporate media takes from his best years in terms of making them money.... the best Jordan ever seen was in 1989.... 32.5 PPG, 8 RPG 8 APG... like 9 30 point 10 assist games in one postseason.

Kobe has never had a year where he shot better than 50% from the field... Jordan did that 5 times in a row. I never said FG% tells the whole story about the scorer, but it does imply how efficient they are. Jordan is much more consistent, and scored the ball more. If that doesn't tell you he's the better score, I don't know what to say.. ... it's about FG%. If you aren't scoring at an efficient rate, you can score more and your team wins less. Being on a worse team wasn't gonna make Kobe's FG% go up. Jordan put up 33.6 PPG on 52.6% FG on a 1990 Bulls team that took the world champs to game 7... Jordan had quicker footspeed and was more powerful at the point of attack. Now, could Kobe get up like MJ if he had a clear lane and didn't have to dunk over contact from elite players? Sure he could. So can Vince Carter. Hell, so could Eddie Robinson. To turn Kobe into Jordan, you'd literally have to give him Isiah Thomas' first step, and then the strength of a Scottie Pippen. That would turn Kobe into Jordan offensively. Want to talk physical ability... Tayshaun Prince in the 2004 Finals. Kobe shot 38%, the Lakers lost. Where was the physical ability that Jordan displayed while being triple teamed by players like Dumars, Thomas, Rodman, Salley and Laimbeer? Because if you could do what he did v. that team, even in the tough seven-game losses, you don't then turn around and get exposed by Tayshaun Prince for a whole series.

How is he exactly better overall? Let's put two things into consideration, half of the game is defense, and the other half if offense. The fact that Jordan has the higher career scoring average proves he is a better scorer. It doesn't matter how you score, if you're as efficient as Jordan was (he shot at a higher FG than Kobe), you're going to be considered better. Jordan is clearly the better defender as well. So I don't see how Jordan being the greatest player ever and not the greatest overall player makes sense.

based on what exactly? Rondo has a ton of potential, just as much as Russell does..

Going to the game tonight, hopefully we win.

Blatche is playing great, but don't look now, the celtics are making their comeback.

Horrible third quarter.