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Yes. Just read the rules.

I got this off another forum and I thought it was a good idea. ...and that you have to make a team with all the players of the other NBA teams, what would your team look like ? RULES : You can't pick a starter and you can't pick more than one player per team. Then in which city would you like your team to be, and what name would you give to your team ? Here's my team: Baltimore Bullets Starting Lineup : C. Joel Przybilla P.F. Chris Anderson S.F. Lamar Odom S.G. Ben Gordon P.G. Jarrett Jack Bench : C. Marcus Camby P.F. Carl Landry S.F. Mickael Pietrus S.G. Randy Foye P.G. DJ Augustin S.F. Thabo Sefolosha P.G. JJ Barea

Because he doesn't deserve to be on the list. This list is horrible though.

I got the flu shot last saturday and feel fine.

I don't know much about it, but what's wrong with getting a flu shot? Just wondering.

Nice answers ECN!

Spicey.

Just shut up, you have no clue what I have been saying, and from the posts you've made, you're a complete idiot. I have no business even replying to your posts.

Whoa Brandon, hold up a second. When did I say Gil was unstoppable. I backed him up, but please show me a post in which I said he was unstoppable. And no, I didn't say Dwight was a true big man, I said he's apart of the new breed of big men in this league that feed off of pure athleticism. And that's exactly right. So far you've shown nothing to me proving that Amare is the better player. I'm all for proving people wrong, but I especially like getting proven wrong, and you've done that to me on a number of occasions, so if you can do so here, I'll be perfectly cool with it. I don't join forums so I can show off my knowledge, I'm not as smart as 70% of this board, so anytime I get a chance to learn more about the game, I'm more than happy in accepting it.

Do you watch Jamison? Or are you just assuming he plays like a SF/G because of what others have stated about him? Jamison plays in the paint very well, he's not best known for his midrange game, he's known for his circus shots, his hooks, and turn around jumpers in the paint, that's what he makes a living off of. So you can scratch off fundamentals off your list. Then you add that to the fact that he can score in a variety of ways, something Amare is only progressing at. Jamison is a superior shooter, Amare has a very limited back to the basket game, and feeds off of the pick and roll system in Phoenix. And you know why he scores more than Jamison....He gets more opportunities to score, he's in the perfect system, and oh yeah, has one of the greatest passers of all time right feeding him the rock whenever he pleases. As a second/third option, the same year Gil exploded for 29ppg and Butler put in 17ppg, Jamison consistently averaged 21ppg in all 82 games of the regular season. Amare averaged 26ppg two years ago as the first option, the same year Nash averaged 11apg, in the 2nd best offense in the league. And there was no question Amare was the clear cut first option, because Shaq was injured the majority of the season, and Marion was shipped off to Miami. And would you bring up Kirk Hinrich? Both Amare and Jamison are big men while Kirk is a PG? That has no relevance to this topic at all. Jamison simply has the superior skillset, can get it done much easier on offense, and ha the better fundamentals in the paint. There is no questioning that if you watch Antawn play. Amare is a true big? Since when? I don't know what you're definition of a true big man is, but in my mind, you have to be at least an above average defender (which Amare is not), and you have to have a good back to the basket game (which Amare does not utilize in his game). Amare is apart of that new breed of athletic big men, which features the likes of Dwight Howard, they have very little fundamentals and intangibles in their skillsets, and feed off of pure athleticism to score. The difference? A true big can score with his back to the basket, implement fundamentals into his game to make scoring easier, has to have a higher basketball IQ than the average defender, and should be consistent on the defensive end. And way to stick in the "Amare is a franchise player" statement, it was clear since the beginning of Jamison's career he would be a role player and a sixth man at best, yet he exceeded expectations and became an All Star. Obviously Amare is a franchise player, he's young, and has a ton of potential, but at this point in his career, he is not better than Jamison. Do I think Amare will beat out Jamison later on in his career? Of course, but right now you're comparing a seasoned vet who knows how the game is played and doesn't need statistics to base his legacy off of with a player who is still developing an offensive game. It's funny, because while Jamison is above the age of 30, he's still able to consistently player at an All Star level and play the majority of the games in the regular season, Amare is only 27 and already he is struggling to play consistently throughout the season.

I hope to God you're joking. You can't show me one thing that makes Amare so much better. Jamison is the better rebounder, scorer, much higher IQ, better fundamentals, and scores much easier. Jamison is easily one of the most overlooked player in the league, as for Amare, let's just say some people like to overrate him after looking at a few All Star Games and his flashy dunks.

Steve Nash and Amare are better than Arenas, Jamison, and Butler? Since when? Jamison puts up better numbers then Amare, both play no defense, and you still believe Amare is better? Last time I checked, Gil was only 27, that's when most players begin to enter their prime. We established the fact that Arenas does still have a lot in him, he barely lost a step, many people, including players outside the Wizards organization have said he's back 100%, yet you believe otherwise? Unlike you, those players watched him play live, so there's no doubt in my mind Gil will be playing at an All Star level based on what guys like LeBron James have been saying. See, there you go bringing up things in the past, it means nothing. And I laugh at that statement, who would ever argue Caron for MVP? I don't know one real Wizards fan who believed that, please tell me when this occurred.

In a seven game series, no doubt Jamison gets trashed. But it's not my point at all, the fact that you're underrating this team is where I'm getting at. The talent on this team is indisputable, adding Foye and Miller to an already potent offense will do wonders for this squad. If the suns can win 50 games a season by being a terrible defense, what makes the Wizards so different? I've already explained the talent level, the chemistry is there, we finally have a successful coach, what is left? And you expect me to believe for 7 games, Derrick Rose can keep attacking the basket at will and win the series single handedly? You expect me to believe he took the Celtics to 7 games by himself? So those Ben Gordon game winners meant nothing to you? The Bulls had a great supporting cast, and oh yeah, the Celtics best defender wasn't playing for your information. Derrick Rose needs to learn how to be a closer before he can even consider being a dominant player in this league, until he proves me that, there is no way I believe he can take over a full series.

The Pistons? That's a joke right? Some experts don't even have them in the playoff picture, much less being named in the same breath as the Celtics, Cavs, and Magic. We won 44 games or so with just the big three, now we add in a much better coach, a whole new mentality, better players, we will be able to win 50 games this season, it's very much possible. Only once out of those players you mentioned have I seen actually take over a series, and that is Wade. Rose will not takeover against the Wizards, nor will JJ (I'm not at all saying he won't be a factor, as I would expect both to have amazing stat lines). And that so called soft power forward managed to hang with Dwight Howard and KG the last two seasons when we played them, I'm not saying that will translate into the playoffs, but in no way should he be labeled soft.

Arenas blogged quite a bit when he was injured actually, so to say he has nothing to say is ludicrous. The mere fact that half of his blogs weren't even directly related to the NBA proves you wrong. He could discuss his training, development, his life, the Wizards, and the season if he liked to. So why don't you think he blogs anymore? And yes, everyone knows this is a different Wizards team. They have a different coach, three new players, they traded and released a few players, and have a totally different mindset this year. And oh yeah, their best player is back. For someone with so much knowledge about the game, I find it tough to believe you don't agree with me here. Why bring up a season where we went through 2 coaches, two major injuries to our starters, and a total train wreck of a season? Yet you still manage to bring them up, for no reason at all. And what's the point of bringing up our history? Does that EVER have any influence on the next season? Are we the Bullets anymore? Is Dick Motta still our Head Coach? Do we still have Wes Unseld and Elvin Hayes on our roster? And one would wonder why you don't think we can get to the second round. The fact is, we are the fourth most talented team in the East outside the upper echelon of teams, from top to bottom, come playoff time we would be facing the likes of Toronto or Atlanta, which is much easier than playing the Cavaliers. Maybe that's a legitimate reason to believe we can get past the first round?

That would be great for the Skins, we could use a guy like Holmgren.

You're totally living in the past, you're the only one I've came across this past few weeks who still thinks Arenas is a blogger, please update me on the last time Arenas made a blog entry RD because I think I missed something...When was the last time Arenas said ANYTHING to the media other than a few comments during Media day? When was the last time you heard a guarantee from Arenas? You need to stop thinking Gil is the same immature child he once was and face reality, Gil has grown up and is entering this season with a chip on his shoulder. Arenas is much, much better than Rose on offense. If you really think Rose is that much better, who do you expect will hit those game winners and close out every game for us? You think he would make a 19 win team a 40+ win team? A rookie? Really? Arenas also knows this system very well, and has done a helluva job under it. If you really think D-Rose can average over 28 and 6 in his first season, he's on his way in being in the top 3 PG's to ever play the game, because there's no way he can fill Gil's shoes in terms of Everything Arenas did for this team. I just love how there are some people who think this is the same team from two years ago, it's hilarious. You guys still think we're a cocky, immature team with nothing to show for other than a few first round exits. This team has gone a long way from being that team you come to hate, we're a completely new team, and if you kept up with D.C. news, you would be able to acknowledge that much.

Wow nice idea, I definitely need to try that out.

Wait so I can't compare Hill to Arenas because Hill had numerous surgeries and Arenas only had two? That's wasn't even my focus at the point, the whole idea of me bringing Hill into this argument was to prove even the greatest of players can be struck with anything that would kill their careers, all goes to Rose, who you apparently are calling one of the greatest PG's in the next few years despite only seeing one season of him. The Princeton offense doesn't require a pure PG at all, it's a series of screens and picks, which doesn't require a team like the Wizards, who already have two solid ball handlers starting as it is, to have a pure PG. And when I said Arenas could average 35ppg and the Wizards going to the Finals, I simply stated that after I heard a few absurd comments from you, and decided to see what you would do if the Wizards were to find any sort of success in the upcoming season.

See now you're showing complete hatred. Have you even hesitated to give Arenas a chance to prove himself this year? What will you be doing if he averaged 35 a night and wins a championship? Regretting everything you once said about him. The point is, you need to stop looking at everything he did in the past, and take a glance at the new Gilbert Arenas. And there's not a shadow of a doubt in my mind that Derrick Rose will be a great point guard, much better than Arenas is right now, but you're telling me you can replace Arenas with Rose, and they will be a much better team, that is flat out erroneous. What proof do you have of this? One season? Are you kidding me? Have you had a chance to see him play in a Princeton Offense? Not only will it take him time to adapt to a new role, this is a completely different system than Memphis or Chicago, one that doesn't rely on him being a pure PG. And I know you thought Grant Hill was going to be the next Jordan, but what happened to that? Guess what, it never did occur. You're saying all this with pure confidence, which really questions you're whole viewpoint on this subject.

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Hell. -_-

And you think Z will maintain those same numbers this year?

Yeah this was a great performance, I loved the background they showed, amazing.

Yeah because we really had a chance to see Rose in the Princeton offense, and not the main option. Nice try.