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He could actually really help them on the court, he is a good player if he isn't being an idiot.

Kobe grew up a lot faster? Does the 2007 off-season ring a bell?

Lol and who the hell are you? A Kobe stan most likely, foh.

He is an LLE caliber player, if he gets more than 2-3 mill annually that would be sad.

Evans looks like a budding superstar after just his rookie year :dunno: this doesn't really seem like much of a discussion to me.

Chalmers Wade LBJ Bosh Anthony I don't think their coach is going to want to start 4 guys who have never played under him before.... this might not be the line-up for more than 5 games, but I think this is the starting 5 for the first game.

Jose and Heat pick for TJ Ford, or Foster+Solomon, or expirings in general, they have a ton, works for me.

He needs to just stop talking to be honest.

Eh, this is actually tougher than I thought. At first I thought it would be Amare easily, but then again Boozer is a workhorse on the glass and almost just as efficient offensively not playing with Nash (Deron is no slouch, mind you). I think I would prefer to have Amare in the end though, he seems more versatile offensively, and despite his defensive shortcomings and rebounding deficiencies, I think I would take him. Boozer might be the better player though. I just think Amare is more skilled.

Toronto is one of the most financially stable franchises in the NBA owned by one of the richest ownership groups, despite mediocrity being the team's high point our team is still always around top 10 in attendance among the league. There is no question that Toronto should have an NBA frnachise. I think the myth of NBA players not wanting to come to Toronto has more to do with the franchise than it does with the climate (lol at me even having to say climate), if we were a team winning 50+ consistently with an ownership group that was consistently spending into the lux tax, I am sure players would come here. It all comes down to winning, not location, players will come here if we can provide both money and winning, while someone might not take less money to play here like Miami or LA, there are only a few places that have that sort of bonus. Can Toronto entice a top 15 player to leave their team in FA? Probably not, but how many teams realistically can?

Awesome signing for the Heat.

The Beatles?

No one is really suggesting Bosh is a great rebounder, there are few great rebounders in the NBA, that title is reserved for guys like Dwight, Chandler (when healthy a couple years ago at least), Camby etc. But Bosh is definitely in the tier below that, how does playing with Bargnani mean anything? Bosh doesn't go hard for rebounds? He tears boards down, someone has to when guys like Bargs doesn't leave his feet for a rebound. Bosh is one of the few players the past 4 seasons to average 10+ boards a night, that definitely makes him a very good rebounder despite who he plays with, seeing as that is a horrible excuse. Using that logic we automatically shave a couple boards off of D12 too right?

Why else would you say this than to suggest Amare is better? Even if that isn't what you intended, saying Bosh sucks at rebounding is also somewhat comical. Bosh guarding Centers over half his career, getting muscled and destroyed down low, has definitely hurt his perception among people who don't watch him much, such as yourself, and what they think of his defensive capabilities. He is not a defensive anchor, but you don't expect a power forward to be a defensive anchor. He is a solid man defender and will get the occasional block, not much else you can ask for unless you want him to be KG.

We acquire him so we can use his salary in a future deal, you can't package the small TPE we required earlier with players, but we can package Andersen with it. Smart move by BC.

Hopefully his assists go up, his points stay around the same, and his efficiency goes up considerably. 16 and 8 with 2 steals on 45% | 38% | 85% seems reasonable and would help the Bucks a lot, they have the scorers but Jennings needs to manage the team. If he can average 20 and 10 on good percentages then go for it, but if he is going to put up Gilbert Arenas stats, it is useless.

Wasn't he an all-star just a couple years ago? Damn, Josh Howard isn't much worse than Richard Jefferson, if at all.

Hopefully they all retire.

The nightlife of Miami is already taking it's toll.

Lol at Amare being a better rebounder than Bosh too, this is a funny thread. If Bosh wasn't guarding Centers for half his career people wouldn't be calling him a bad defender. Bosh isn't a great defender, but he isn't a liability on the defensive end either. He is better than Amare at just about every facet of the game besides explosiveness and his post game, which it doesn't even seem Amare is a particularly skilled post scorer.

I haven't even read the entire thread yet and already I'm thinking of not.

Dude is 30 already, damn time flies.

I saw this yesterday, it wasn't really worth posting to me since this is the sort of approach BC has taken all summer to me. Just taking subtle shots here and there, saying Bosh isn't a franchise player, just things like that.

Also not sure if you remember, Perkins is out like half the season for the Celtics.

I don't really see how shuffling backups makes the Magic go from 60 wins to potentially 50 or less at the 5 seed on your list. Celtics second is suspect, put the Bulls there for me. Milwaukee will be fighting for a playoff spot all year I think, they won't be a home court team. Atlanta won't be below Milwaukee. Basically I think you can expect the standings to look very similar with the Heat replacing the Cavs, and the Knicks taking that final playoff spot with Cleveland in the gutter, but here is my seedings for now at least, it is hard to say with CP3 still on the block apparently. 1. Miami for obvious reasons 2. Orlando Magic for obvious reasons, same core they will win 55+ games again 3. Chicago Bulls have a talented roster and should win 50-52 games 4. Boston Celtics, this could easily be swapped for Chicago because I think they will fight for the 3rd best record, all depends on health. 5. Atlanta Hawks for obvious reasons 6. Charlotte Bobcats, I don't know why exactly but I am expecting 45 wins out of this team next year 7. Milwaukee Bucks will win 42-45 games next year, everyone will realize Maggette puts up hollow stats. 8. New York Knicks, was hesitant here but adding Amare should add 10+ wins to their team for the final playoff spot, 37-40 wins should do it. 9. Washington Wizards, if Arenas gets them 22 and 6 a night they will win 35 games or so and fight for that final last [expletive]ty spot 10. New Jersey Nets, I know they didn't make a big splash but they hit the tank hard last year, Brook is a year older and they added some role players 11. Philadelphia 76ers not seeing it with this team, not a threat for the playoffs yet unless turner is a major stud 12. Detroit Pistons, enough competent NBA players to win as many games as last year 13. Cleveland Cavaliers, they will find a way to push for 30 wins 14. Toronto Raptors, last would be nice, but last never wins the lotto 15. Indiana Pacers, this is the year they tank!