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Both are absolutely worthless.

Jose/Bargs out, Philly in a race for 6th, I smell a blowout Also really anxious to see how Demar does against arguably the best perimeter defender in the game today.

If he wants to win MVP he is going to need to start doing things besides scoring.

It has nothing to do with that. He isn't exciting, doesn't win, will score 8 points in the last 2 minutes of a blowout just to get his 20 if needed, he's just a douchebag really and it was obvious that he wasn't going to help the Bucks, he doesn't care about winning.

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Counting down the days until the end of April and the start of May (and the draft lotto yeee). Exams kicking off next week, can't wait to be done this first year, it's been up and down to say the least.

I can't believe you are honestly a fan of this player...

Really, I doubt neither you are RD have seen nearly enough on him to draw any sorts of conclusions. I mean, 3-4 years ago his hype was absurd, then it died down (he got picked 5th, not 1st....). We've seen talented signs from the kid, so to conclude he isn't anything special (I don't really know what you are saying, so vague...) is just dumb, especially when he hasn't touched an NBA floor yet.

Hopefully this = them not wanting Irving, but it wouldn't surprise me if they drafted another point guard.

He made a play on the ball and Graham overreacted, that is why he was laughing. He didn't even intend on fouling him.

Give him a 3 year deal, take it or leave it, and call it a day. Keep Triano one more year, let the vets go so he is forced to develop the young guys. Then fire him the year after (transfer him or whatever) and bring in an established coach or an assistant with a track record on a good team. Hopefully the ownership stuff is taken care of soon as well.

Or when you are priming up for the playoffs.

What the hell.... how can you write this when you don't even know who is declaring or not

I put Kobe first because he is probably going to finish 2nd or 3rd in MVP voting. Statistically he and Wade are basically a wash (maybe not, but I don't give a [expletive]), so I think at that point Kobe simply being a better player comes into play.

I just don't think the fact that Vince wasted his talent should be the reason he is kept out of the hall of fame, he was still a star in his era, and one of the best players in the NBA in his prime.

The Rockets teams T-Mac were on were better than any team VC had in my opinion. Frankly I don't give a shit about PER (curious how many of those 25+ PER years were irrelevantly in Orlando), at what point does VC being equally as talented and effective come into play? They were both all-stars disguised as superstars in their prime, and the reason Carter isn't as good anymore (and T-Mac as well) was because neither cared enough to develop their skills and their ability to be effective without their explosiveness. VC and T-Mac were comparably talented to Kobe, without a doubt, but their lack of passion is why he is still an MVP candidate and both of them should retire. VC and T-Mac were content being stars, Kobe wanted to be a legend, that's the difference. Even if T-Mac was 100% he still wouldn't be any better than VC now, he is too slow and his flat jump shot is useless and inconsistent. He could be a useful facilitator, but he doesn't really bring much to the table consistently for a team trying to win, and neither does Vince. Both need the ball in their hands, and neither are good enough to dominate the ball anymore. They are both useless, regardless of health. I am pretty much prepared to throw all these stats out of the window because both were typically fighting uphill battles in the playoffs, but I concede that T-Mac was a better playoff player. I guess that's the difference between playing with Alvin Williams and Antonio Davis compared to Caron Butler and Antawn Jamison (and Haywood too, who is basically the same as Vince's 2nd best player). He made all-star teams because he was one of the best players in the league. He led in votes because he was exciting to watch. Go back through the years, how many undeserving all-star nods did he get? Maybe 1? 2? Gil has more all-team appearances, are you telling me he is more of a HOFer than Vince? Statistically and individually speaking, VC should be a HOFer, combine that with the fact he is a major player from our era, I think it will happen. Vince almost carried his team to the conference finals (and the finals most likely). He keeled over the following year due to injuries, and things just were never the same after the missed shot in Philly. Vince made 3 deep playoff runs as a legitimate option on his team, the first was in Toronto as a one man show where he was going blow for blow with the MVP of the NBA, and was one shot away from who knows what. The 2nd was in New Jersey where he played 11 games and was averaging 30 PPG on 46%. The 3rd I concede was poor, sub 40%, his 4th in Orlando I don't even count in this discussion. Even his first playoff series in Jersey where he struggled with his shot, he still grabbed 8 boards a game and was getting 6 assists. I think Vince was a competent playoff performer.

Vince was a superstar for probably 3 seasons, and was an elite wing for nearly a decade. I feel like people are really sleeping on the lack of talent VC had in Toronto. He won 47 games with only having one player above 10 PPG (Antonio Davis at 13.7 on only 43%). He won 45 the year before with a young T-Mac as his 2nd option, who was still extremely inconsistent and basically a defensive stopper. Sure, Vince never won any hardware, but it wasn't his fault. He was basically in a similar situation to LBJ, the only difference is LBJ is on a different level and was able to achieve more because simply, he is one of the best ever, while Vince was just a great player, LBJ is a once in a life time player. http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/TOR/ Honestly, check those teams and from 99-01 and tell me again it is VC's fault he never won anything.

This, quite simply, just is not true.

T-Mac was never 'much' better than Vince Carter, maybe marginally, but not much. And comparing VC to Gil is absolutely ludicrous. Gilbert was a one dimensional chucking point who never won anything with some solid/really good players on his team. VC played with a sub-par cast his entire time in Toronto and was probably one shot away from making the NBA finals. Vince was effortlessly averaging 25-5-4 (the numbers Kobe is dropping now) in his prime while leading a cast of role players to the playoffs. Sure Vince might not have any significant hardware, but he never played on a team capable of winning hardware (no, those Nets teams were not good enough), so how do we hold that against him individually? Because the Raptors couldn't give him more than role players he isn't a hall of famer? Because Kidd was over 30 when he got there and they had no bigs he isn't a HOFer? Because the Magic and Suns are using him as a catch and shoot player he isn't a HOFer? A stat line of 23-5-4 and memorable playoff series with the Sixers should be enough to get in the hall, and has over 20k all time points and will be top 30 when his career is done and over with. Vince Carter at the start of the 2000's is a staple of this era. Sure his attitude sucks, and he didn't care enough about basketball to make him one of the greatest ever, but he is still a hall of famer when it's all said and done.

What a relief. Bayless has another big game, Demar struggles but still drops above his PPG average, and we lose. Nice.

edit: nvm.

Wow Byron look at that, you put your best player in and your team takes control. [expletive]in' douche. We deserve this loss, quit [expletive]ing around. Wizards already lost, we need this.

Gotta love Jack subliminally calling out Byron for his tank job this quarter. "Wow Parker and Baron have only played 1 minute this quarter, showing a lot of confidence in the young guys, momentum has completely swung"

This is [expletive]ing bullshit [expletive] you Byron Scott.

Ugh. Come on Cavs, Gibson at the 2? [expletive] off....