Big Chief Triangle

Where did I say he had no pure skill? I never said Bron wasn't a great player either. His game just doesn't have the staying power of Kevin Durant or any other player who relies on pure skill versus brute strength and speed. Eventually Bron will lose some of the the speed and won't have the skill to rely on because he doesn't spend time developing it. Sure Bron affects the game. The results are clear. But they won't last into the next decade when guys like Durant,Tyreke, and Roy are relying on skill versus being a brute.

1.Kobe 2.Chris Paul 3.Dwayne Wade 4.Deron Williams 5.Lebron 6.Pau Gasol 7.Dirk 8.Bosh 9.Kevin Durant 10.Brandon Roy

Melo by far. I've never seen Melo act like a spoiled child and not congratulate someone after getting ran off the court. Melo doesn't show up his opponents and his pure skill is better than Bron's.

Bron is the latest fad. Guys like Durant will be around a lot longer because of his pure skill.

Bron is not 10x anyone. Durant's pure talent trumps Bron. Bron plays off 85% athleticism while Durant relies on developing his pure skill. Lebron has already peaked. You people are saying Bron is going to get better? Well tell me how. Are you guys telling me that in the future everytime Bron shoots he'll reverse damage to the ozone and resurrect the dead? How is he going to get better? His game is his game. Bron can't build on his game because he hasn't even mastered the basic things outside of dunking. Bron can't get easy buckets in the post Bron can't make his FT's Bron can't deny post position Bron can't defend his position Bron can't play with a post presence Bron can't play off the ball Before Bron sets on his mission to establish life on Mars he needs to work on those things above. Guys like Durant have already been putting in the groundwork to help them play for many years. Bron's game doesn't have staying power and you'll see it start to crop up once he loses some speed.

You are right. But I gave that guy 3 times to keep attacking me before I said something aggressive back. All is well though man. I got you.

OH MY SWEET GOODNESS. I HAVE BEEN OWNED. SOMEONE PLEASE SAVE ME.

First, $300 jersey hardly set me back man. I saw it, I wanted it, I bought it. You can just drop that. If you find the list I made to be inaccurate then I don't know what else I can point out to you? I wouldn't expect a Wizards fan to know anything about the finer things of basketball. Has Lebron beaten you guys so bad that you have learned to love him. Has Lebron pull a "Mike Tyson" on you and f$$ked you until you learned love him? One more thing, chasing down players in transition to block a shot is not considered playing man defense.

My clear lack of knowledge of the game? OK man. Done discussing with you. You have failed time and time again to debate with attacking. You are the one who lack knowledge. If you had it you would present it in an argument instead of these weak punches you keep trying to throw at me. The guy above is the one who called out Laker fans. Or did you miss that?

I've spent a lot of time pointing things out to you but you just dismiss them. You continue to hang your hat on the distant possibility of Bron getting a rind or surpassing Kobe. I'm telling you that there is just as information to support Bron being washed up in 5 years as there is Bron being the best in the game in 5 years. In my opinion Kobe is 2x the player Bron is. Bron can't defend his man yet Bron can't deny post position Bron can't play off the ball Bron can't play with a post presence Bron can't score off the block Bron can't get easy pts. Bron can't hit FT's These are things that have been shown to ALL the world. Do I need to provide video and scouting information to back these things up or have you watched enough basketball to understand? I remember when Kobe was young and people were trashing Kobe for developing the fade-away and pull-up jumper so early in his career. That has paid endless dividends for Kobe because it has allowed Kobe to continue to be a dual threat once some of his legs left him. Bron is behind the 8-Ball in that department. There are at least 5 players in the league who are more SKILLED than Lebron. What Lebron does is nice and exciting but it doesn't translate to Championships. You brought up Bron getting close to a ring every year. Well there are a lot of players who get close. Go ask Reggie Miller or Karl Malone if getting close is any consolation in not winning.

There is nothing to support what you are saying. That is just assumption and myth buddy. Bron hasn't shown me any indication that he can lead the NBA into the next decade. What's Bron going to do once he loses a step? He'll have a nervous breakdown because he can't have his way anymore. Bron has proven to be overly dependent on his physical tools while ignoring the finer parts of the game. That's why people are picking Durant. Durant at this time is more skilled than Bron. Durant just hasn't fully matured physically. You must have some type of deep hate for Laker fans. I just call it like it is.

Let me help you out. You don't tell people they have "horrible logic". You need to be respectful and give a solid take. This is your 2nd time doing this in this thread. My logic is perfectly fine. If you can't see the obvious difference between Kobe and Lebron then maybe you should look harder. Kobe is on an entirely different level than Lebron and it all isn't just physical. Most of it is mental. Bron is bigger and faster than Kobe. But Kobe is smarter and more skilled. Like I said before, Lebron has no business in a commercial with Kobe as a rival or peer UNLESS Kobe and Lebron have played in a Finals or Playoffs against each other. There are no similarities between the two players. When and if Bron matures and maybe gets a ring we can discuss it. But since that will never happen you'll never be able to compare the players. I think most of you are assuming that Bron is destined to win a ring. HA HA! Never going to happen. Bron is a cancer and a primadonna. Bron can't play off the ball These two things are going to prevent Bron from ever being properly coached or sharing the spotlight with another star. That means he'll never win a ring. Durant,Melo,Dwight,and Wade all have a better chance of winning a ring before Lebron because they take the game seriously. I'm pretty hard on players and I've seen enough of them to know who succeeds and who doesn't. Bron is a train wreck. His media decline has already began. Once he loses his speed he'll become a tweener SF/PF with no post game and a weak jumper.

HA HA Then that just backs up my claim right?

Durant by a mile

You have a point but Shaq is Shaq. It never came off as offensive. The Yao thing only blew up because up Stern's globalization plans. It was still funny though. Bron's whole act comes off as childish. Maybe if Bron did it after he won a ring it would look different. Bron's mind should be on winning a championship. I should see fire in his eye and feel the passion of his game through my TV. But instead he has a team full of young players doing the river dance. Win something first. King this...King that? What is he the King of? The City of Cleveland? HAHAHAHA LOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOL That's my point!