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Nets fan, but nice try. I never said the refs aren't biased, but there it has little to nothing to do with being from a small or large market. Superstars do get calls other players don't get, but at the same time how many perimeter players attack the basket like Wade, LeBron and Rose do? The answer is none, they are the 3 best in the league at getting to the rim and finishing. When you are constantly attacking the basket, you will get to the FT line a lot. It is why AI at one time took over 11FTA's per game, and why his 'small market' Sixers were among the league leaders in FTA's. Also, when you attack the basket like they do, and know how to initiate and sell the contact like they do, it makes it even harder to fairly judge foul calls against them as opposed to your usual role player.

I don't know what more you want in regards to House...he can't finish at the rim, is poor at creating his own shot, and he's a streakier 3pt shooter than either Jones or Bibby. There is no way he should be ahead of Bibby when it comes to scoring ability. As far as Brown goes, he's not a great 3pt shooter, he doesn't have much of a midrange game, and he's extremely streaky. And despite his athleticism and ability to finish at the rim, he doesn't get to the FT line much, which is huge when it comes to a player's ability to score. Overall, he's inefficient, doesn't have the IQ to be a legit volume scorer, and there is no way he should be ahead of Odom or Bynum. I don't know what more you want...to rate his spin moves?

The top 2 teams this season in FTA's were small-market teams (Nuggets and Thunders), so don't give me that. Philly was bottom 5 in the league this season in FTA's per game, while Rose was attacking the basket like crazy which is why the Bulls had such a big edge against the Pacers. Neither the Pacers or Sixers have a guy that gets to the FT line anywhere near as much as LeBron, Wade or Rose do, so of course they will be at a disadvantage.

I think I was being specific enough...House can't do anything but shoot 3's at a streaky pace, and you can't put the ball in Brown's hands and expect him to score consistently like you can with Bynum and Odom. Volume is very important when you are rating a player's scoring ability, and Odom and Bynum are more capable of scoring at volume than Brown is, and they do it with much greater efficiency. I don't know how I can be more specific, especially since Brown is an undersized SG while Odom and Bynum play in the frontcourt (and Odom actually shot the 3 ball better than Brown this season, while being much better around the rim, so if you're looking for variety of ways to score effectively there is no way Brown should be ahead of Odom). I mean, I don't really know what you're trying to get at. If you're talking about player-scouting, that's subjective, while stats are objective. You can look at Synergy Sports and use some of their advanced stats on how players shoot in certain areas of the floor, off PnR's, using their left hand, etc...but the fact of the matter is that volume and efficiency are ultimately the meat-and-bones of a player's scoring ability. All that other stuff can be a neat way of giving the stat some substance, but statistically speaking volume+efficiency is how you determine a scorer's effectiveness.

My song gets you almost as wet as a Japanese tsunami...almost.... http://www.infinitiinthenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Japan-Tsunami-Plan-To-Co-Host.jpg

But that's all he really does, and when that shot isn't falling he's a non-factor to score the ball. He can't create off the dribble, can't finish at the rim and he's a streak shooter. He's not good enough creating his own shot to be a better scorer than Odom or Bynum, and it's not like he's Reggie Miller shooting the 3 ball, either. Odom has the skillset to be a consistent 15-20PPG scorer on solid shooting percentages, and Bynum is one of the best post players in the league. Brown is a good bench player, but you can't consistently put the ball in his hands and expect to score like you can with Odom and Bynum, and he's not an elite spot-up 3pt shooter to make up for that. And FYI, both Odom and Bynum scored more on FAR better efficiency this season than Brown did, so that should back up my argument enough. If a player A scored with greater volume on better efficiency than player B, then I have no idea how you can statistically quantify player B being the better scorer...UNLESS you take into account different offensive systems and teammates and whatnot, but since your numbers are team-by-team, it doesn't make sense.

There's a few that are big outliers to me...like, I don't know how House should be 4th on the Heat when he's shooting sub-40% from the field and can't create his own shot, and how Bibby is so low despite being their 5th highest scorer and shooting very well from the field. On the Lakers, no way should Brown be ahead of Odom and Bynum, on the Mavs Barea is way too high, and on the Spurs RJ is way too low. But, unless I know what you're basing this off of, it's impossible for me to really give you good feedback.

Wow...that's almost as gay as putting colorful horses in your avatars and sigs...almost.

I have no idea what you're basing all this off of, but I have no idea how Melo and Kobe have a higher rating than LeBron when he scored more than both of them with a 4-5% TS advantage as well. If you're basing this off where they score from on the field, then I can maybe understand the Melo rating, but LeBron shot better from 2 and 3pt range than Kobe did. But, keep it up regardless....

Autotune...really? Haha you got a decent flow, but ditch the autotune crap.

I know what you're saying, but Jermaine O'Neal just came back, and if Shaq is healthy for their matchup with the Heat and/or Bulls, they'll be fine down low.

They were like a .500 ballclub the 2nd half of last season and nearly won the championship...as long as the Celtics are healthy, I think they have a great shot at winning another ring.

Agreed. I haven't been here much, so I don't know why they're doing it, but it's really [expletive]ing...umm, can't say it because David Stern might be watching....

I completely redone the song, every single lyrics. I took your suggestions and put every ounce of energy into putting emotion into the verses, and IMO they sound 10x better. The revised version is in the first post...feedback regarding the new version would be much appreciated, I think ya'll will like it.

Oh, and another thing- the chorus is meant to be a little monotone as it's recreating what the original song is like. I'mma re-record this song tonight, and master it and whatnot. I'll have a new version up soon.

I honestly put as much emotion as I could into those lyrics, I am just really, really monotone. But, thanks for the comments everyone, I'm taking notes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfK6U6N-AhQ If you got a YouTube account, please sign in and comment/hit the like button. I completely wrote and produced this song, using "The Realest" instrumental by Mobb Deep (Alchemist instrumental). First time I ever wrote a chorus too, although I used the template from the actual song. Lyrics are much, much crisper than my Dead Presidents one. Enjoy! R/H

The Heat have are like 4 games behind the Bulls in the standings, are 0-3 vs the Bulls, have a worse record against elite teams than the Bulls, and have bigger holes on their roster. There is no argument to who was the better team during the regular season. In the post-season, things may be different, with Bibby fully acclimated, possibly having Haslem for the later rounds and Wade/LeBron going into playoff-mode, but statistically speaking the Bulls should beat the Heat based on the regular season. I think it will all depend on matchups. If the Heat face the Bulls in the ECF, I think the Heat will take it, but if the Celtics beat the Heat in the semi's, I think the Bulls will take the East.

Thanks bruh :glasses:

Sure we did... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLeD6WEYFmw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMrPjl-927Q http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNmU1esUF4k Duncan and 'gaining fan interest' should never, ever be used in the same sentence. And no, VC wasn't alone, but he was by far the biggest draw in the NBA for a few years, having the most hype of any player since MJ. Also, as for his resume, he was screwed out of a few All-NBA teams because of the media's strong dislike for him. He had three 25/6/4 seasons in a row with NJ, with the team getting to the playoff each season, yet he never even got All-NBA 3rd team...that's a joke, especially his first season with NJ where he averaged 28/6/5 on a TS% of 56%, while leading that broken down team to the playoffs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlXxvKuejUU So, I finally recorded a track. It's very raw, and I will go back and probably re-record it and master it, but for now here it is. Rate/Hate!!

All he had was a few good scoring seasons? He had 10 straight seasons with at least 20PPG (6 of them with at least 24PPG), and 8 of those seasons he averaged both 4+ rebounds and 4+ assists. That's impressive statistically. Mix in the fact he's the greatest dunker in NBA history, and what he did for the league in terms of drawing fans' interest, and I'd say he has a good enough resume for the HoF.

Maybe if he wasn't white he wouldn't be soft.[/sarcasm]

False, he was actually more ball dominant in Houston (at least the first 3 seasons) because he had to take on a greater role as a facilitator. In Orlando he had Darrell Armstrong who took a bigger playmaking role than Rafer Alston did in Houston, and Doc Rivers used T-Mac off-ball a lot more than JVG did, whose offensive playbook consistent strictly of high PnR's with T-Mac as the ballhandler. With that said, T-Mac AND Carter were superstars in their prime, especially T-Mac. If you put a prime T-Mac in today's league, he'd without a doubt be better than Durant, and VC would be somewhere in the top 10. The reason T-Mac won't make the HoF is because of injuries and the media's stigma against him never getting out of the first round, and if VC doesn't make it it's because of media stigma as well. Besides what he actually did on the court, look at the impact made on the NBA popularity-wise as he was a phenom in Toronto because of his athleticism, which should definitely be considered when he's up for induction.

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