His Greatness

YAWN.

Unless this San Diego defensive line miraculously becomes competent in halftime, this game is over. So in other words, this game is over. A bit premature I know.

Mendenhall is [expletive]ing nasty and should definitely be the feature back. I'm convinced.

Dude you are boring as [expletive].

These Broncos are really overachieving.

Is that you Troy Williamson? Well, at least Russell didn't throw any picks.

An excess of scorers doesn't diminish the importance of scoring. Sure, there are several scoring wings, but how many of them as talented as Gay? You can say the same for Posey. I don't deny that established teams might prefer Posey, but then that circles back to my original point about accounting for everything. What if the team doesn't have anyone to be their primary or secondary scoring option? They all started somewhere right? I think that bias is the biggest/only hole in your logic. Historically, most players have been on that mediocre-below average team. Durant and Granger are there right now. The teams suck, but the players deserve an even field for evaluation, (mostly) separate from their team's accomplishments.

For the most part, it was the specialists that I was referring to. BTW, Marion isn't sharp enough to be a reliable scorer anymore, even in that system. And calling Wilson Chandler a featured scorer on offense or anything close to it is way off IMO. I was very underwhelmed by him in every game I saw, and he posted some inefficient (and inflated) numbers, even for D'Antoni's system. I don't think he even enters the conversation if he didn't pad his stats in a wide-open offense. No disagreement here, you're a 100% right. But by the same token, is a player like Ariza more equipped than Gay to carry you through a scoring drought? Isn't it plausible that Gay would've done more for New Orleans than Posey in the postseason when they sorely lacked another scorer to take the heat off Chris Paul? What if you're building a team from the ground up? These factors have to be taken into account. Nothing. He can't do anything but score, but sometimes that's more conducive to winning, and he doesn't have the same team-damaging baggage as cancers like Randolph to where you can casually overlook him. Gay's a very promising player, but I don't think he's special enough to warrant top 10 consideration yet... I'd still put him over Posey and Ariza, at the least.

On an established playoff team you can overlook raw scoring ability, but if you're comparing players without that preset condition, naturally, it's going to be more weighted towards it. We've always disagreed about this. Gay is everything that you said he was, but I just can't discount that one thing he's talented at and rank him at 18th.

DET @ CHI CIN @ CLE SEA @ IND NYG @ KC BAL @ NE TB @ WAS TEN @ JAX OAK @ HOU BUF @ MIA NYJ @ NO DAL @ DEN STL @ SF SD @ PIT GB @ MIN EDIT: Same as yours, lol.

Clifton is out.

Read the beginning of the article, people.

No, the best album you've heard this year is Animal Collective's Merriweather Post Pavilion.

This is almost as big as that time when an even bigger Packer great signed with the Vikings, and emotions were high going into that Monday night game. I'm talking of course, about Darren Sharper.

This is probably your most accurate list, but dude you overrated Artest, and despite Gay's many vices, he's too talented to be ranked that low.

I thought it was pretty average as well, at least by Muse standards. Probably their worst album, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's bad.

wtf, he never let me leave.

Good one. Hopefully he stops posting in this forum now.

I believe they tried to give him a bigger role, but he was already on the bench with five fouls.

In before lame nut-grab joke.

There's no coherence on that defense. None. As good as Williams is, he can't singlehandedly overcome the massive disadvantages of a feeble defensive scheme and secondary. Russell is bad, but he's in a very favorable situation here, it would behoove the Raiders to take advantage of that... he needs the confidence boost.

Maybe he doesn't even throw a pick. I might sound crazy, because I am, but Houston's defense is atrocious. Their defense is worse than Russell is a QB.

Broadcast camera is horrible.

Can't really blame them. No one likes dwelling in the past, and they're justifiably excited to have him. STOP B-TCHING STAT. Most Viking fans I know feel the same way that I do, though.

I still hate Favre. Always will. But I'm also a Vikings fan and I support all the players.