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At the time of the LeBroness, they weren't cap ready to sign him either yet they made the moves to get him. They couldn't have made deals to get the superstars that wanted to play in the Mecca?

Dope! Hope he wears them with the retro pads too. Alex Auld has got a nice new one too but can't find the photo again!

That's not the Knicks fault at all though, right? They had tons of guys wanting to play like Shaq and KG wanting to play because it is the mecca of basketball but didn't want to trade or sign any of them.

Exactly. Jerome James explains it all. I'm not saying the Nets did much better with signings of Lamond Murray and other horrible players but the NY Knicks have been there everyday and accomplished very little.

You know what I miss? Playing vortex football. http://www.geekiegadgets.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/nerf-vortex-howler.jpg I use to dominate recess in grade seven and eight as I was one of the top ten fastest people for Southern Ontario. Only kids who were faster were black kids and one ginger....damn gingers.

That's because no big name wanted to go there or they'd have cleared space like both are stupid teams did for the King.

This post somehow manages to blow the other ones away. Do you read anything I wrote above? First off for the millionth time, it would just be Melo and Lopez. I'm not even gonna add more because I wrote it like five times on this page. It's a different time in history but is still the same player. If Kobe Bryant was a free agent and he was about to sign somewhere, would you expect his talent to not bring at least a playoff contender? Same thing for Melo. Yeah Jefferson and Kenyon were really in their prime....oh wait they were rookies! Amar'e is a star. Check general NBA section. So your telling me all these years there was no big enough free agent that New York wanted? You can grab Chris Paul or someone but the Nets couldn't? How many draft picks do the Knicks have in the next three years? I know you aren't acutally a Knick fan so it excuses you lol.

NYC is the mecca of basketball that has signed what superstar lately? Nets were great 2000 and if it wasn't for Shaquille O'Neal and Tim Duncan, we'd have two rings in recent years. Second part is basely your and fellow Knick fans assumtion. Like I wrote before if the Nets can put a winner on the court as soon as they get there and say Knicks are still battling for 8th or something like that, you are saying that Nets would gain ZERO fans from the Knicks? Please. They do have young talent but like I wrote above before we are still stock pilled with picks. We trade away four first rounders and we still have two which the Knicks currently don't even have theirs this year. The whole point of a trade is to make your team better. Heck the Knicks just signed Amare to a huge contract and where do they sit in the East? Of course you'll say they have cap space to make the moves but that's the whole point I'm trying to show you is just because the current roster isn't better than the Knicks now....doesn't mean they couldn't overtake that title in one mere summer. As for the lottery picks you are correct. Some may be lottery picks but almost all of them are protected or not even ours to begin with so it's not as big of a deal as it seems. It's really just a matter of opinion. You say it's harder but with cap space, plenty of picks and a brand new home, I have to side with the opposite.

I assume JYD will respond with a great post and fish with another dud but I do think Melo will end up as a Knick but I disagree that it would be destined for him and the Nets to do absolutely nothing with him on the roster. Oh and the whole thing about Knicks with the draft picks still....Nets would still own EIGHT draft picks over the next three years if they traded away FOUR first rounders.

I am paying attention but the brain switch didn't turn on your side. Did you personally chat with Melo? Sitting couple games over .500 in a system that has failed numerously in the tougher Western Conference and actually was dominanted by the Nets in 2001 and 2002 with fewer dollars to spend on talent is automaticlly better choice than the Nets when clearly the trade is building forward and not just one year. Again just my two cents but cmon, take the glasses off.

I really don't understand what fans have to do with anything to do with Carmelo? If the Nets head into Brooklyn with a winning team or at least an exciting team to watch there will be people in that STATE OF THE ART facility. Most of your assumtion is speculation. They will still have the local NJ fans on top of the ones they win in Brooklyn but like I said I don't really know what the point of this is? Knicks are more attractive because they are the number one team in NY? What stops Melo from bringing a fan base to his birth place? So your saying if Wade was in Toronto, Canada would have one of the most exciting NBA teams? C'mon now. I just don't get how the Knicks have always been in New York yet suddenly it's a free agent hot spot for superstars yeeeeeeeeeeet they haven't even signed one yet. Just my two cents.

Chris Bosh?

People say football is the most violent sport but hockey puts up a pretty good fight. http://habsinsideout.com/files/hio/images/James-Wisniewski.preview.jpg That was from pretty close too. I honestly don't know how defensemen or even the forwards go in front of slap shots.

We are called the Nets and does that mean that is all they are going to have!? Man it's going to be tough playing with only four playe...oh wait there is an off season and free agency. Oh it's the history of the Garden and all those championship banners that bring in the studded free agents they have gotten in the past that make it Knicks > Nets.

Wait so the Knicks 10 million is worth more than Nets 15-20 million because they are in New York or because you can't do math right? FYI, Nets will be there too. It's so much talk about the Knicks being such a prime destination for these "FA" yet so far we've seen LeBron, Wade and Bosh ignore them as much as the Nets. No doubt the record this year and being "the Knicks" may have some pull to grab these stars to mimic Miami but I really doubt Nets or Knicks win a championship in the next 5-10 years.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Bm4q6Es7Iek/SyZqY5mp40I/AAAAAAAAAeo/DugjYo2RgaI/s320/money-eyes.jpg Love for the game or love for the cash.

And if I'm doing my math right, the Nets would have Carmelo and between 15-20 million for free agency but I could be completely wrong with the numbers.

Jason Kidd was 27 and never got his team to the WCF. Boston Celtics wouldn't be champions if they stuck to the mode of stocking up picks and keeping young players. So there is no theme with the Nuggets missing the playoffs eight straight years then when Carmelo comes in they have made it eight straight? All I'm saying is we were getting a wife beater in 2001 and it completely changed our entire franchise by taking the risk of making a trade.

Bruins could trade away all of their draft picks other than the Leafs one and still have a playoff team in six years. Johnny Boychuk, Patrice Bergeron, Tyler Seguin, Milan Lucic, Nathan Horton, Brad Marchand and Tuukka Rask all under the age of 26. If they can add some defensive depth in the likes of Larsson or even Dougie Hamilton who I've seen a lot of; will be amazing.

I get the trade isn't so good on the Nets side but how do the Nets not have a future even if they were to trade for him? Not only are we getting a young superstar but we would have plenty of cash for the next big free agent fiasco. What was the Nuggets record before they drafted Carmelo? 17-65. What was the Nuggets record the first season with him? 43-39. I still don't think it'll happen but I heard the exact same thing with Kidd and he took us to two Finals in his first two years when he was traded here.

If he's in the lineup verses the Canadiens then fighting should be the last thing your worrying about. So basically: Phil Kessel Joe Colborne, Bostons 2011 first round pick Bostons 2012 conditional pick for Jared Knight Tyler Seguin Tomas Kaberle Torontos 2011 first round pick Beastly.

When your inactive player can put up 20 any night; I'm gonna say championship.

Please do not do this. I know we have to compete with the Knicks but I'd rather watch Favors develop than Carmelo sulk in a couple years.

Yeah he's definately got talent but very inconsistant. Put him on a Laker or even back on the Mavs and he'd do much better in a lesser role.

First trade is horrible. Second was is a lot better but like Guru, I'd like to keep Morrow.