Kid Cudi or Drake Poll

[Guest Need4Sheed]

Who is more ill?

[HipHopHead]

Their both pretty mediocre.

[The Regime]

Drake, I've been a fan of his music every since he became mainstream.

[YugoRocketsFan]

Their both pretty mediocre.

 

Guess your grammar and them 2 have something in common.

[Lemon]

Gotta go with Kid Cudi. More of my taste. Drake doesn't seem to stand out to me as much. Agree with HipHopHead tho, both haven't made a big impact. Theyve been getting alot of help from main stream bigs to get out there.

[HipHopHead]

Guess your grammar and them 2 have something in common.

 

And you're not a hypocrite? Considering you have about three grammar errors and a sentence fragment right thur lol.

 

Cudi appeals to more people as his content is pretty heavily fan-oriented.

[AboveLegit]

Cudi actually has some substance in his lyrics, I'll go with him.

[JWaLL]

I like Drake's songs better. Cudi has good lyrics, but I just never like his songs very much.

[Flash]

Drake. Before, I would've said Cudi but after listening to Drake's most recent stuff I'm really impressed.

[La Bomba]

Drake's lyrics have no substance and are all about getting women and getting money. Cudi isn't a ridiculously good lyricalist, but his music is much more original.

[Jenneral]

Kid Cudi

 

Drake is shadowing Lil Wayne too much. Kind of annoying. Their music is similar as well. However, I can see why he's doing it. I mean, Wayne is such a great role model and all. Just wait until he gets out of prison, he'll bring his sickest [expletive] yet.

[JYD]

In the realm of hip hop and rap, I think Drake is better. However, I enjoy listening to Cudi more - just more of my style.

[kadillak]

Kid Cudi.

 

He's original and has actual substance in most of his songs. Drake, on the other hand, hasn't really put out much stuff that I like since signing on with YM. His content and not-so-great punchlines are really getting old very quickly. He better start bringing it on his album or he will get embarrassed on his own stage. Bringing weak sauce on songs featuring Eminem, Lil Wayne, Jay Z, Kanye, etc. will not end well.

[Flash]

Drake's lyrics have no substance and are all about getting women and getting money. Cudi isn't a ridiculously good lyricalist, but his music is much more original.

 

That's why I respect Drake though, because he doesn't rap about being someone he isn't. He gets tons of poon and he's got money.

[Flash]

Kid Cudi.

 

He's original and has actual substance in most of his songs. Drake, on the other hand, hasn't really put out much stuff that I like since signing on with YM. His content and not-so-great punchlines are really getting old very quickly. He better start bringing it on his album or he will get embarrassed on his own stage. Bringing weak sauce on songs featuring Eminem, Lil Wayne, Jay Z, Kanye, etc. will not end well.

 

What substance does Cudi have? Dude talks about smoking weed in basically every track other than Soundtrack to My Life.

 

Doesn't it say a lot about how good Drake is that he's able to get on songs with the people you just mentioned above?

[HipHopHead]

That's why I respect Drake though, because he doesn't rap about being someone he isn't. He gets tons of poon and he's got money.

 

MC's get a little bit of love and think they hot

Talkin' 'bout how much money they got

ll y'all records sound the same

I sick of that fake thug, R & B rap scenario all day on the radio

Same scenes in the video, monotonous material

 

What substance does Cudi have? Dude talks about smoking weed in basically every track other than Soundtrack to My Life.

 

Doesn't it say a lot about how good Drake is that he's able to get on songs with the people you just mentioned above?

 

You're being a complete hypocrite.

 

 

No, it just means he's backed by a lot of corporate sponsorship who is getting these rappers on these tracks. And none of those guys have come out with a good album in the past few years and have had their better years behind them.

Edited March 31, 2010 by HipHopHead

[Flash]

MC's get a little bit of love and think they hot

Talkin' 'bout how much money they got

ll y'all records sound the same

I sick of that fake thug, R & B rap scenario all day on the radio

Same scenes in the video, monotonous material

 

 

 

You're being a complete hypocrite.

 

 

No, it just means he's backed by a lot of corporate sponsorship who is getting these rappers on these tracks. And none of those guys have come out with a good album in the past few years and have had their better years behind them.

You're honestly gonna say American Gangster and BP3 aren't good albums? 808's was so underrated too just because it wasn't typical Kanye sound. Jay's been on record saying that Drake is gonna be the next big thing in Hip-Hop I don't know how much more praise the guy can get. You're just being a complete hater on the guy.

[HipHopHead]

You're honestly gonna say American Gangster and BP3 aren't good albums? 808's was so underrated too just because it wasn't typical Kanye sound. Jay's been on record saying that Drake is gonna be the next big thing in Hip-Hop I don't know how much more praise the guy can get. You're just being a complete hater on the guy.

 

American Gangster is possibly Jay-Z's best album ever, but it came out over three and a half years ago. BP3 was Jay's last shot at staying relevant in the rap game, and it was another utter failure of an album. I actually quoted that in another thread, the fact that Jay-Z is co-signing Drake. It is funny that neither Drake nor Cudi got a verse on the "great" BP3, while an overlooked guy like J. Cole did and actually killed Jay-Z on his own [expletive]...

 

I'm not a hater of Drake at all, I [expletive] with his mixtapes from time to time. I like some of his songs, but that doesn't mean I think he's good. Just like how 808's was, I liked a lot of songs on it but I didn't think they were necessarily well executed. Oh, and 808's wasn't a hip-hop album so I'm not sure how you can show that as an example. If you want to use Kanye's last "rap" album, Graduation, it would actually work against you as that was a mediocre attempt as well.

[Flash]

American Gangster is possibly Jay-Z's best album ever, but it came out over three and a half years ago. BP3 was Jay's last shot at staying relevant in the rap game, and it was another utter failure of an album. I actually quoted that in another thread, the fact that Jay-Z is co-signing Drake. It is funny that neither Drake nor Cudi got a verse on the "great" BP3, while an overlooked guy like J. Cole did and actually killed Jay-Z on his own [expletive]...

 

I'm not a hater of Drake at all, I [expletive] with his mixtapes from time to time. I like some of his songs, but that doesn't mean I think he's good. Just like how 808's was, I liked a lot of songs on it but I didn't think they were necessarily well executed. Oh, and 808's wasn't a hip-hop album so I'm not sure how you can show that as an example. If you want to use Kanye's last "rap" album, Graduation, it would actually work against you as that was a mediocre attempt as well.

 

If you call BP3 an utter failure for him to stay "relevant" change your username ASAP. C'mon son.. He's easily the biggest name in hip hop right now.

[Riot]

lol I looked at Drake's wiki page a few weeks ago, and wow, his real name is Aubrey, he's half white, he grew up in a rich neighborhood, and he was on Degrassi... wtf. I was like how does this guy have any street cred, then I realized that's basically his audience right there, rich white teenagers.

[BasX]

BUT HE GOT SHOT ON TV!!!!!!

[kadillak]

If you call BP3 an utter failure for him to stay "relevant" change your username ASAP. C'mon son.. He's easily the biggest name in hip hop right now.

You have HipHopHead's definition of relevant confused. Staying 'relevant' in the hip hop world shouldn't mean that your name is recognizable -- it should mean that your song meanings, lyrical structure, and flow can still keep up with the day's best artists. Jay Z is definitely relevant as far as being recognized by hip hop fans, but his lyrical talents aren't keeping up with the likes of Fashawn, Blu, Mos Def, or even his own J. Cole, to name a few. BP3 confirms that. Yes, it was a solid album compared to the garbage that the majority of the mainstream hip hop artists have put out of late, but it was wack compared to what he have heard from Jay Z at different points in his career, and it was definitely not up to par with what other artists (underground) have put out. That considered, he's no longer 'relevant' in that realm of hip hop that HHH is referring to. Jay will definitely have a few spots to redeem himself with a feature on Drake's album and a rumored feature on Dr. Dre's new album. We'll have to see what he comes up with.

 

Additionally, he's not 'easily' the biggest name in hip hop today by any means. He may very well be, but guys like Eminem, 50 Cent, and Wayne can all put up arguments. Now 50 hasn't been relevant for awhile now, but that doesn't take away the fact that he has a ridiculously huge international fan base. Wayne is more restricted to the US, but his intertational base is rapidly climbing.

[JYD]

You have HipHopHead's definition of relevant confused. Staying 'relevant' in the hip hop world shouldn't mean that your name is recognizable -- it should mean that your song meanings, lyrical structure, and flow can still keep up with the day's best artists. Jay Z is definitely relevant as far as being recognized by hip hop fans, but his lyrical talents aren't keeping up with the likes of Fashawn, Blu, Mos Def, or even his own J. Cole, to name a few. BP3 confirms that. Yes, it was a solid album compared to the garbage that the majority of the mainstream hip hop artists have put out of late, but it was wack compared to what he have heard from Jay Z at different points in his career, and it was definitely not up to par with what other artists (underground) have put out. That considered, he's no longer 'relevant' in that realm of hip hop that HHH is referring to. Jay will definitely have a few spots to redeem himself with a feature on Drake's album and a rumored feature on Dr. Dre's new album. We'll have to see what he comes up with.

 

Additionally, he's not 'easily' the biggest name in hip hop today by any means. He may very well be, but guys like Eminem, 50 Cent, and Wayne can all put up arguments. Now 50 hasn't been relevant for awhile now, but that doesn't take away the fact that he has a ridiculously huge international fan base. Wayne is more restricted to the US, but his intertational base is rapidly climbing.

i wouldn't call it wack man. The production was very very good on BP3 which made it a damn solid album... and dude it still had a lot of hit songs on it. Was it as good as previous Jay albums? No. Personally I think the original BP was the best rap album ever...but thats just me.

 

jay-z is def the biggest name in hip-hop right now, when it's all said and done ten years down the road he may be the biggest name ever beside big and pac

[HipHopHead]

If you call BP3 an utter failure for him to stay "relevant" change your username ASAP. C'mon son.. He's easily the biggest name in hip hop right now.

 

Popularity and success equals talent now? Well I've been sleeping for the past 15 years of hip-hop...

 

The album was mediocre, I can't respect your opinion if you say otherwise. Sorry. :glasses:

 

i wouldn't call it wack man. The production was very very good on BP3 which made it a damn solid album... and dude it still had a lot of hit songs on it. Was it as good as previous Jay albums? No. Personally I think the original BP was the best rap album ever...but thats just me.

 

jay-z is def the biggest name in hip-hop right now, when it's all said and done ten years down the road he may be the biggest name ever beside big and pac

 

lmao, the porduction was horrible. The two Kanye beats were garbage (Star is Born and Already Home), Timbaland played it too safe with his (Reminder, Venus vs. Mars, and Reminder). If it's one thing we all know, Jay-Z always has sick beats and a good ear for music. This seems to not be true here.

 

Kingdom come was very bad, but had a few big singles - saving it. American Gangster was a modern day classic, but had no big singles. The last album Jay had good music, lyrics, and popular singles? The Black Album of 2003, way too long ago for teen fans to even remember (which is what I fear most of you are seeing). This makes it no surprise he would bring in ironically the two guys this thread was originally about; Drake and Kid Cudi as well as J. Cole. I don't want to say it but with no other words to describe it, it's almost as if Jay "sold out" to a degree.

 

Thus we end up with an overly defensive Jay-Z claiming he is above all the usual bull[expletive], but continually has to remind the listener of his successes and the trends that he helped set. Fair enough, but it makes for a pretty dull listen. On more than one occasion, he just repeats himself like a Brando in "On the Waterfront" and you almost feel sorry for him (listen to "Already Home"). Then you remember that BP3 isn't supposed to be a classic. No, it is DESIGNED to get him back in the game, and it WILL sell a lot of records around the world. He played it safe and that's why it was successful.

 

"The Blueprint 3" should comfortably outsell Raekwon's "Only Built 4 Cuban Linx... Pt II" by 5 to 1 this week. That obviously doesn't mean that it deserves to. Rae's album isn't perfect, but it is 5 times better executed than this, honestly. If Jigga wanted to experiment whilst re-establishing his legacy, he should have looked to Mos Def's album, "The Ecstatic".

Edited April 2, 2010 by HipHopHead

[Guest Need4Sheed]

i honestly dont even know how this is close