Owner Real Deal Posted March 31, 2010 Owner Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Got this email about three hours ago... Im not gonna tell u who I am or what guys are sayin it, but I think u deserve to know whats going on with OTR and 2 or 3 of ur members. Id say probably the last 6 months Ive been compiling messages from others about not posting on OTR anymore. All I can say is that I posted on ur site 3 or 4 years ago and got too busy with school, but Im on alot of AIM lists still, from the old mocks u used to run. "RD is toxic to his own site. He PM's members to talk behind other's backs, and he bans everyone who disagrees with him. He's like Stalin." "lol dont post on otr. realdeal(the guy that owns it) takes your email address and sells it to companies to make himself money. thats why he doesnt have ads up like every normal forum." "once its all said and done nobody will be posting there, it will die like RBS did ...lmao you know peopel will believe everything we say, cuz RD doesnt joke around with the rest of us" "real tried to hack s2 a long time ago and he did the same to NBAD and other sites. he spams forums to get his members and he is running a terrible basketball forum for over 4 years." "I've been on OTR for over 2 years, and was there before it was hacked. Nothing changed with the site or him. He's also going to sell it soon and make a ton of money off of it without letting the guys know, so he's also dishonest and shady. You don't want to be there for somethin like that." "i used to admin over there, like in 2006, and i got kicked off for suspending a laker fan for three days. real banned me and my ip address just for that. ill never post there again." "hes homophobic and has ran off a lot of members who he thinks might be gay. it's pretty dumb tbh." "ALCS left OTR just like everyone else did, and it's because of RD. IIRC, most told me it's because he logs in under their account and posts as them, and edits other posts to make it sound like they all agree with him. Nobody should post there." Im sorry man. I think its not fair that they are saying it, and I wouldnt want them to do that to me, so you need to know whats going on.This explains a lot. If you know what guys are doing it, PM me. It will stay anonymous. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted March 31, 2010 Author Owner Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 By the way, I actually removed a few of those quotes, because it gets much worse. A lot of it was taking shots at some personal things and people in my life, information that may have come from Facebook a while back, among other things. It's going too far, beyond the discussion forums and what it does to our activity. It needs to end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Artesticle Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 PFG??? Not really sure who else would waste time doing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YugoRocketsFan Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Real Deal bans gays? SMH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted March 31, 2010 Author Owner Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 PFG??? Not really sure who else would waste time doing that.Well, it's more than one person, and I believe it's someone that posted here as a legitimate contributor a while back, someone I probably added on my old MySpace account, or even Facebook. PFG doesn't know anything about me, I don't think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YugoRocketsFan Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Well, it's more than one person, and I believe it's someone that posted here as a legitimate contributor a while back, someone I probably added on my old MySpace account, or even Facebook. PFG doesn't know anything about me, I don't think. Yeah plus PFG is dumb as a rock, Will used to be a contributor here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWaLL Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Who was the admin in 2006 who got banned for suspending a Laker fan? That should be obvious to any longterm members. I joined in 07 so I have no idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YugoRocketsFan Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Who was the admin in 2006 who got banned for suspending a Laker fan? That should be obvious to any longterm members. I joined in 07 so I have no idea. I think Real Deal and his bro were the only admins for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 ALCS left? Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted March 31, 2010 Author Owner Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Who was the admin in 2006 who got banned for suspending a Laker fan? That should be obvious to any longterm members. I joined in 07 so I have no idea.That was made up. I believe Aaron became admin mid-2007. Other than my own brother, Aaron, Justin and Kyle, no person has ever been an administrator on OTR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChosenOne Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 lol that is straight low people really need to get lives out side of the internet. I also joined early 07 so I am unaware of who/s it might be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfish Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Diesel! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YugoRocketsFan Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Diesel! Ya totally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWaLL Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Those could have all been written by the same people but different grammar to throw you off. Just a thought, I'm sure it's just someone who is pissed for getting banned in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfish Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Ya totally.And u da accomplice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobe24 Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Wow I agree probably one person making [expletive] up.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Feelgood Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Wow. That's some pretty harsh crap being said. Hope you find out who's behind all of this man. I unfortunately don't chat with anyone here on OTR outside of the forums with the exception of Smitty once when I was helping him with the sim stuff. Good luck man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtTheDriveIn Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 To me that sounds like gossip that people make up when they're bored. "Real Deal is selling our e-mails to corporate governments so they can send us viruses!!", "Real Deal is selling the site and he's going to make millions", "I heard Real Deal is a badass hacker who keeps closing down sites cuz he's so badass". It just sounds like a bunch of nonsense to me. Someone is just bored and looking to start trouble. But in this new age world where you can hide behind your computer and not be afraid of consequences, what's new? Eventually they all get bored, though. To me, Real Deal has been nothing but fair and honest from the time I met him on another forum (probably back in 2007?). He genuinly seems like a good guy who wants to make this site work for everyone. I don't know where they get the image of Real Deal being 'shady' and 'Stalin-like'. Someone's high on melodrama atm, it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted March 31, 2010 Author Owner Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 To me that sounds like gossip that people make up when they're bored. "Real Deal is selling our e-mails to corporate governments so they can send us viruses!!", "Real Deal is selling the site and he's going to make millions", "I heard Real Deal is a badass hacker who keeps closing down sites cuz he's so badass". It just sounds like a bunch of nonsense to me. Someone is just bored and looking to start trouble. But in this new age world where you can hide behind your computer and not be afraid of consequences, what's new? Eventually they all get bored, though. To me, Real Deal has been nothing but fair and honest from the time I met him on another forum (probably back in 2007?). He genuinly seems like a good guy who wants to make this site work for everyone. I don't know where they get the image of Real Deal being 'shady' and 'Stalin-like'. Someone's high on melodrama atm, it seems.Haha, thanks. And you know what's funny about that? You and I had our differences in a few topics back in the day, lol. I just think there are a couple of guys who are angry that they can't post here, and they found their way to pull a few of our members out the door as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GamerGuy Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 That was made up. I believe Aaron became admin mid-2007. Other than my own brother, Aaron, Justin and Kyle, no person has ever been an administrator on OTR.I'm pretty sure Ben was an admin when Justin was, granted it was for a short time. But yeah, that person is pulling lies out of his arse. It amazes me how people waste their time sitting around trashing a web site. Like really, don't you have anything better to do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Feelgood Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Gotta agree with GamerGuy about people not having anything better to do than to start crap like that. Seriously, what's the point of trying to bring down a forum community that's about the sport that they love (I assume the people that posted that are older members from OTR) just because they probably can no longer post here. Pointless and a complete waste of time. People need to grow up and go outside once in awhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWaLL Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Gotta agree with GamerGuy about people not having anything better to do than to start crap like that. Seriously, what's the point of trying to bring down a forum community that's about the sport that they love (I assume the people that posted that are older members from OTR) just because they probably can no longer post here. Pointless and a complete waste of time. People need to grow up and go outside once in awhile.Jealousy can make people do some crazy things nowadays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BasX Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 I guess I'll be the first one to do it http://solidaduncensored.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/normal_internet-seriousbusiness.jpg Seriously, it's just a forum. Real put money into because he feels it can grow, therefore, I do give him any benefit of the doubt. I haven't been here long enough to make a judgment, but It's tough to see that being more than 2 or 3 people at most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AboveLegit Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 (edited) Lmao, the biggest load of BS I've seen on a forum in a long time. I don't know anyone more helpful and more caring than RD. Can't tell you how much he helped RST back in the day, and even BTA. I don't hesitate one bit when he asks me to give him access to the Admin CP on those forums. I've never actually heard anyone say [expletive] about Brandon though, and frankly, I can't imagine why anyone would. Edited March 31, 2010 by AboveLegit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted March 31, 2010 Author Owner Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 This has opened my eyes a little, honestly. Like I said earlier, the stuff about the board isn't that big of a deal. We've had that kind of talk forever now. People get mad when they are tossed, so they have to find a way to make it seem like it was my fault, or everyone else's. The personal stuff (what I didn't post from the email) is the bigger problem. It was hard to swallow, some of the things that were said. I also left out two or three quotes that were putting a handful of our members on blast, more on a personal level, actually naming them. I also didn't like that. Ultimately, in the end, I see that the guys that are still here and contributing are those who respect what I've done, and they deserve the respect back from me, which I can only give by keeping OTR up and alive. I've said it so many times before...Aaron, Kyle and I (and the mods over time) have appreciated what you guys have done. Some of you do get carried away, and so do I, but for the most part, we don't have the internal staff troubles (ever), we don't have admins and mods going at each others' throats, and we don't have a huge group of members rebelling against the site (as far as I can tell). We don't reach 1,000 posts a day anymore, but a lot of that has to do with the hack and a group of members shying away from posting, or even re-registering with us. But, I feel like we still have one of the best basketball boards on the net, hands down, when it comes to overall intelligent basketball discussion, and that's all I really want out of the time and money spent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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