Coach Spo

[Clutch]

We all know what our goal is as a team, but we also know that having a bunch of great players on your team doesn't equal a championship, the coach is just as important. Bulls probably would never have been as dominant if it weren't for Phil Jackson and his system, similarly Showtime Lakers probably would not have been as dominant if it wasn't for Pat Riley. (Examples of 2 dynasties)

 

So my concern with Spo is that, is a young coach still trying to figure things out gonna be enough for a a team lookin to be a dynasty and competing for the championship starting next year?

 

Are his achievements overlooked because of Wade's form and impact - or is it that really the case, that Wade is the only (or biggest) reason Heat can even think about the playoffs

 

And with proven coaches available, and the situation being attractive for a lot of coaches, should we go for someone like Byron Scott (the most Pat Riley-Esque coach in the game today) or Avery Johnson.

 

Or is it too early to give the boot to Spo who seems to have done a decent job with so little according to the stats (wins/losses - defensive improvement etc.), however questions are there about the development process of the young guys such as mario chalmers and beasley. And of course his offensive schemes as well as being able to close out games and quarters are probably some cause of concern. He has been out coached a lot of times.

 

 

thoughts...?

[Poe]

I like what Spo has done overall. He isn't perfect, and he's still young and learning, but I think he's a got a bright future as a coach. As the talent level of the team increase, I think that'll expose who the real Spo is, and then we can truly decide whether he is the right coach or not.

Edited April 21, 2010 by Poe

[Clutch]

I like what Spo has done overall. He isn't perfect, and he's still young and learning, but I think he's a got a bright future as a coach. As the talent level of the team increase, I think that'll expose who the real Spo is, and then we can truly decide whether he is the right coach or not.

 

agreed, in which case we all know pat riley isnt shy to fire no one

[Flash]

Spo can become a good coach in the future but I'm not sure he's the man for this job. I'd rather see us go for a guy like Byron Scott or Avery Johnson.

[SRV]

Coach Spo isn't to blame. Its guys like Beasley, O'neal, and Arroyo who have no motivation what so ever. Wade is the only one doing anything, he sets guys up for shots and they miss. That is why there are so many rumors that Beasley is gone next year, and I wouldn't mind because its just more cap space for us.

 

The only thing Spo needs to do is change the offense. Clearly playing half court and never running a good play isn't going to get us anywhere. We need to revamp our offensive strategy, or learn to fast break [which isn't too hard]. Its too late to change it now, but during the off season, we need to build a team around Wade and change the type of offense we run.

 

Also if anyone is gonna coach the team, its Pat Riley. I wouldn't be surprised to see him step in next year if we bring back Wade and sign another big name.

Edited April 21, 2010 by SRV

[Flash]

Spo definitely has to take some of the blame. Our defense looked horrible last night. How many times has anyone scored over 100 on us this season? He needs to mix things up sometimes. Spo doesn't adjust at all and last night was a prime example. Why not go small? They have Fat Baby out there lumbering up and down the floor, why not run on them? The only guy on that team that can run is Rondo. We've got Wade, Wright, Q, UD and Beas who can all run the floor well and play on the break. Go to a zone when Ray Allen is out. Anything to counter what Doc is throwing at him.

 

"Any other ideas?"

[Flash]

Also if anyone is gonna coach the team, its Pat Riley. I wouldn't be surprised to see him step in next year if we bring back Wade and sign another big name.

 

As much as I want Pat to coach I doubt its gonna happen. I know this team and they aren't as bad as they played last night and a lot of these guys can play. There's a reason Beasley was the consensus number 1 pick until the NCAA tournament when Rose took over. I don't buy that he doesn't know how to play. Its just completely unreasonable to hold a guy out of the 4th quarter all year and then expect him to pick up the slack for Wade in the 4th quarter of game 1.

 

The way Mike has been handled is a crime IMO. You can't convince me that a guy who was the top player coming out of HS and a superstar in college can't play basketball at a high level. Especially one with talent like Michael.

[Check my Stats]

Lol this dude is getting sacked right after FA and Riley is taking over.

[Flash]

Lol this dude is getting sacked right after FA and Riley is taking over.

 

Only if we're lucky lol.

[Check my Stats]

Riley is a douche like that he did the same thing to an actual quality coach in Van Gundy, I would be surprised if this DIDN'T happen.

[Flash]

Riley is a douche like that he did the same thing to an actual quality coach in Van Gundy, I would be surprised if this DIDN'T happen.

 

We would've never won anything with SVG. Riles stepped in that way and didn't formally fire SVG because there was so much tension between Stan and Shaq while Stan was here.

[Clutch]

man i really miss riley...even in the 15 win season having him on the sideline just made things seem less bad lol

 

btw beasley has never been posted up in 2 yrs i think people should seriously stop blaming that kid..the only place he gets the ball is on the baseline or at the 3pt line with no screens or nothing everyone just freezes and lets him go 1 on 1

[Flash]

man i really miss riley...even in the 15 win season having him on the sideline just made things seem less bad lol

 

btw beasley has never been posted up in 2 yrs i think people should seriously stop blaming that kid..the only place he gets the ball is on the baseline or at the 3pt line with no screens or nothing everyone just freezes and lets him go 1 on 1

 

Exactly. He's not quick enough to be an iso type player in the NBA. Maybe he could get away with it in college but not at this level.

[SRV]

Beasley plays dumb though. He has talent, but he has no idea what to do with it. He always catches and does that little stutter step, when he does that, he is gonna shoot it. Then he goes on stretches where he tears it up, and then he disappears for the entire quarter. He is athletic enough to take his man off the dribble and get layups, and he is ambidextrous, it is beyond me why he doesn't drive it in more. He needs to start earning the refs respect and getting to the line more.

 

You can also see Wade gets really frustrated with him. As much as Wade saids he loves Beasley and wants him to get better, when he sucks in the playoffs, Wade gets pissed. Hopefully these two home games get these guys in a better mood.

Edited April 22, 2010 by SRV

[Clutch]

ye i agree he really has to earn the refs respect, the only way he is gonna get calls is if he continues to drive

[Flash]

Beasley plays dumb though. He has talent, but he has no idea what to do with it. He always catches and does that little stutter step, when he does that, he is gonna shoot it. Then he goes on stretches where he tears it up, and then he disappears for the entire quarter. He is athletic enough to take his man off the dribble and get layups, and he is ambidextrous, it is beyond me why he doesn't drive it in more. He needs to start earning the refs respect and getting to the line more.

 

You can also see Wade gets really frustrated with him. As much as Wade saids he loves Beasley and wants him to get better, when he sucks in the playoffs, Wade gets pissed. Hopefully these two home games get these guys in a better mood.

 

I agree he needs to play smarter ball but he's only 20 years old guys. He's clearly not there all the way in terms of the mental side of the game. He catches it in the WORST spots IMO to make anything happen. You can only do so much from the baseline as opposed to the top of the key. I'm not sure there's a stat to show this, but I'm willing to bet Michael shoots a better % when he catch the ball at the top of the key as opposed to the baseline.

 

I've never seen anyone take away his left completely which is remarkable to me because he only goes left and even when he does drive and get hacked he doesn't get any calls. He's had to be held back several times this year because he was barking at refs because of clear fouls that went as no-calls.

 

His fourth quarter struggles are a product of the inconsistency in his 4th quarter minutes I have no doubt about that. You cant expect him to shine in that spot when he doesn't even play in the 4th during the regular season.

 

People can ramble all they want about how "Beasley needs to learn how to play basketball" all they want but the fact remains that he's a young player who's still adjusting to a new role. Mike's been "the man" on every team he's ever played on until now. He's never had to set screens for others, play defense and be a number 2 option. I've got faith in Michael because we've seen the flashes of brilliance (the Atlanta and Memphis games come to mind).

 

 

 

[Clutch]

and when someone like pat riley (coach of so many legends) says that he is one of the most gifted scorers he's seen and also wade sayin that beasley is a lot better now than wade was at this age - we should only expect improvement, im not worried about him being inconsistent too long

[Flash]

and when someone like pat riley (coach of so many legends) says that he is one of the most gifted scorers he's seen and also wade sayin that beasley is a lot better now than wade was at this age - we should only expect improvement, im not worried about him being inconsistent too long

 

Neither am I. The strides he's made this year defensively are remarkable compared to where he was last year. He's never going to be a superb defender, its just not in his DNA, but at least he's giving more effort now on that side of the ball. The way he's used offensively needs to change though IMO.

[Flash]

Right on cue, Ira writes this garbage:

 

When does patience run out?

 

When a season is running out.

 

With the Miami Heat down 0-2 to the Boston Celtics in its opening-round, best-of-seven NBA playoff series, guard Dwyane Wade clearly has tired of doing the dance when it comes to weighing potential against promise with second-year forward Michael Beasley.

 

So after Beasley was dominated in his matchup by fill-in Celtics forward Glen Davis in Tuesday's humiliating 106-77 Game 2 loss at TD Garden, Wade was terse when asked about Beasley now standing 9 of 22 from the field for 19 total points in the series.

 

"I'm tired of answering questions about Beasley not doing this, not doing that," Wade said. "It's on Michael."

 

To dig out of its hole, the Heat clearly is going to need more than Wade, who is shooting 61.1 percent and averaging 27.5 points over the first two games.

 

Are you kidding me? This article had a great comment section that included this gem:

 

 

 

I could go on but the message was pretty clear. Beasley let down the Heat. When is he going to step it up? He was the #2 pick in the draft two years ago, what’s wrong with him?

 

Beasley (13 points on 6-14 shooting, 7 rebounds) has two years of NBA experience.

 

O’Neal (2 points on 1-10 shooting, 5 rebounds), Udonis Haslem (8 points, 4 rebounds), Carlos Arroyo (4 points, 4 assists) and Quentin Richardson (5 points) collectively have 35 years of experience.

 

So what’s their excuse?

 

Sure, more should be expected from Beasley than Arroyo and Quentin. But why does Haslem escape criticism for his performance? What about Spoelstra who had the bright idea to put Jamaal Magloire (missed jumper, turnover, one rebound, one foul, a shot blocked by Pierce) in the first quarter? Who was leaving Ray Allen alone at the same spot for several three-pointers?

 

In fact, it was Haslem who was on the floor and guarding Glen Davis when the Celtics went on their game-changing 21-0 run in the second quarter and the 18-0 run in the third quarter. Beasley hardly played through both stretches of the worst Heat basketball all season. Of all the starters and Haslem, Beasley had the “best” +/- with -16 points. The other 5 players had a combined -128 points.

 

The score was 16-19 in favor of Boston when Haslem replaced Beasley with 2:34 left in the first quarter.

 

It was 29-37 when Beasley returned in the second quarter with 5:11 left in the second quarter. Three minutes later he would be the first Heat player to score in eight minutes of futility to make it 31-46. The very next possession his foul on Davis landed him back on the bench for the rest of the half.

 

Beasley quickly hit two more jump shots to open the second half to make it 37-51 but another foul on Davis puts him on the bench with 4 fouls, all on Big Baby. Spoelstra could have left him in the game, knowing full well that without his offense it would be virtually impossible to catch up with the Celtics with Wade the only offensive threat to worry about. Instead he elected to save Beasley from further foul trouble, a moot point if your team is down by double-digits on the road with time seemingly already running out.

 

Beasley doesn’t play for the rest of the third quarter, you know, the one where Boston went another run of 18 straight points. Haslem guards Davis who proceeds to hit a jumper and three lay-ups in the next four minutes. His only miss that quarter is a layup attempt. With 5:09 to go in the third quarter the score is already 39-71. By the time Beasley finally returns to the game in the fourth quarter the game is already over at 59-87 and is essentially reduced to playing garbage minutes.

 

With Beasley in the game, Davis goes 1-7 from the field and hits 8 free throws (all of the fouls called against him). Without Beasley, Davis improves to 6-7 shooting and 1-3 free throws.

 

Beasley certainly didn’t play good enough to give his team a chance to win. But the Heat’s entire front line and the coaching staff are to blame, not just him.

 

 

 

[SRV]

No one like Ira, he is the idiot reporter.

 

He reports for the Heat, but he never has anything good to say about us, it is always negative.

Edited April 22, 2010 by SRV

[Poe]

Ira is an idiot. I avoid reading his stuff as to try and not damage whatever basketball IQ I might have. I can't believe there is an "ask Ira" section, as if he knows any more about the Heat than the casual fan. And even more so, I can't believe he is part of the Sun Sports half time show, where this bum shows off his incredible "expertise". Seriously...

Edited April 23, 2010 by Poe

[Flash]

The Heat, however, had a foul to give in that situation, which would have forced the Celtics to again inbound off the possession that began with 11.7 seconds to play.

 

"We thought about it," said Spoelstra, who said a greater consideration was possibly running a second defender at Pierce. Pierce, in fact, said he was surprised the Heat did not foul, and was expecting such a maneuver.

 

Once again, amateur hour at the Triple A. Go back to the Israeli League you effing bum.