British Army vs US Marines: Who wins?

[trutrojan8]

I never said the Marines would win, and one shot to the head from a musket is not piercing a helmet.

That would cover about 50% of the head, though. And it doesn't take just a headshot to kill someone.. 3 shots to the limbs and the Marine would just bleed out.

[fly3rs18]

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well first of all, it actually is more than 1000:1. Second of all, do you really think one person could kill 1000 people before the 1000 kill the one? really? No matter what weapons who has, a marine can't shoot and protect himself from 1000 other forms of ammunition coming his way at the same time. Marines aren't invincible. You're obviously failing to grasp that.

 

do you really think that 1000 people could shoot at once? there would be no difference between 1000:1 and 5000:1, majority would just be standing there waiting anyway

 

and actually yes, the marines would be nearly invincible. they would have bulletproof vests, which would easily stop a musket shot from far away (muskets are inaccurate anyways, they wouldnt hit the marine very often). the british have no armor and are just standing out in the open in a giant crowd. pretty easy target for any kind of gun or explosive.

[YugoRocketsFan]

do you really think that 1000 people could shoot at once? there would be no difference between 1000:1 and 5000:1, majority would just be standing there waiting anyway

 

and actually yes, the marines would be nearly invincible. they would have bulletproof vests, which would easily stop a musket shot from far away (muskets are inaccurate anyways, they wouldnt hit the marine very often). the british have no armor and are just standing out in the open in a giant crowd. pretty easy target for any kind of gun or explosive.

 

Why would they wait if they know they are facing 100 people? If you outnumber them by a crap load, you can just make a really wide formation.

[GamerGuy]

Let's say that both armies are in a wide open field, spread equally apart. There might be a few things here and there to offer some protection, but not much. If the British troops made a wide formation, enough to have several thousand of them fire at once, I don't think the Marines would win. Sure, they would take out a lot of the British, but let's be honest, you're not going to be able to shoot and protect yourself at the same time. The volley of rounds the British can unleash at once would keep the Marines mostly pinned down, and yes even though their muskets aren't terribly accurate, there's still a good chance of a round hitting you. The British also had rifle men, and rifles were much, much more accurate than the muskets. Almost like early sniper rifles.

 

The British would be able to keep advancing on to the Marines with just the sheer number of men and rounds they can fire at once. Eventually they would overwhelm the Marines with just their numbers.

 

112,000 troops is A LOT. You're not going to be able to mow them down all at once. Even though the technology heavily favors the Marines, the British would win with their sheer size.

[ChosenOne]

In that situation yes the Marines would lose, but then again you are not considereing the NUKE that they have. lmao jk

[fly3rs18]

Why would they wait if they know they are facing 100 people? If you outnumber them by a crap load, you can just make a really wide formation.

 

they wouldnt just be in a wide open field, your formation can only be so wide. but either way, a tank with a few explosives would easily destroy the front lines of the british, and when you are standing there with no protection and the people right in front of you get blown up you are not going to just keep trying to attack

[Poe]

This completely depends on circumstances. Give the marines some planes with a sufficient supply of ammo and grenades and bombs and whatnot, and there's no question who's winning. Put 'em both on land, and those numbers start to outweigh the technology.

[Real Deal]

If it's just land and guns, then that's different. I guess it's better to specify before diving into a debate like this.

 

If the marines are given every weapon and means of attack (including tanks and planes), then the British are done.

 

Land, guns, and that's it? The British would surround the marines and take them out, most likely. There would be more dead if they tried doing it in a group, since they all can't fire their guns at the same time (would have to go 1-2 lines at a time)...but again, there isn't much to debate if we don't know exactly what the marines can use.

[Kobe24]

Although I think against those numbers tanks would just waste their soldiers.. if you put a couple people in a tank that takes away from your 100 and tank can easily be surrounded by a bunch of british

[GamerGuy]

Well, if you give the Marines a tank then the British can have cannons and cavalry units.

 

But yeah, of course if you give the Marines all of today's technology to use they would win. In debates like this you need to make the two side as equal as possible starting it.

[Poe]

Well, if you give the Marines a tank then the British can have cannons and cavalry units.

 

But yeah, of course if you give the Marines all of today's technology to use they would win. In debates like this you need to make the two side as equal as possible starting it.

I think the point of the debate was technology versus numbers. The British have an advantage in a huge amount of numbers and the Marines have the advantage in advanced weaponry and machines. Taking away the technology from the Marines would make it an unfair advantage for the British due to their numbers.

[fly3rs18]

Well, if you give the Marines a tank then the British can have cannons and cavalry units.

 

But yeah, of course if you give the Marines all of today's technology to use they would win. In debates like this you need to make the two side as equal as possible starting it.

 

cannons and calvary would be completely useless if the marines have any snipers. the sniper can just shoot the gunpower as they are loading up the cannon, or just shoot the people firing it, as well as the same with calvery

[moeroadkill]

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[ManOnTheMoon]

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Lost.

[moeroadkill]

Lost.

 

no this is lost

 

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[ManOnTheMoon]

no this is lost

 

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The Spartans lost..

[moeroadkill]

only because they got ratted out (not saying the US would win)

Edited April 26, 2010 by MoeRoadKill

[ManOnTheMoon]

only because they got ratted out (not saying the US would win)

 

Yea by that ugly looking creature, i wish he wouldn't have done that, i would like to see their plan work in the movie.

[YugoRocketsFan]

This is 100 marines vs 112,000 british soldiers, there was nothing about tanks, cannons or anything, its people vs people.

 

Brits win, to think otherwise, you must have been born with half a brain.

[ManOnTheMoon]

Congratulations to the British. :glasses:

[Poe]

This is 100 marines vs 112,000 british soldiers, there was nothing about tanks, cannons or anything, its people vs people.

 

Brits win, to think otherwise, you must have been born with half a brain.

War is never merely people vs people, and there was no mention of any restriction to weapons or machinery in the original post. If you think that a ton of people with mere rifles and canons could do anything against an aerial assault, then you must have been born with half a brain.

[EastCoastNiner]

Some of you are plain stupid.

 

The U.S. Marines would WIPE out the British army in no time at all.

 

 

1. The weapons today are so advanced and powerful that they can shoot while the British are far away where their VERY inaccurate guns will not be able to reach.

 

And, if you learned about your history, the British just aim straight and fire.

 

One musket bullet to the chest of a U.S. Marine isn't going to do anything, but one magazine from a machine gun can not only mow down the first line, but it will go to the second line and hit some of those people, making them useless.

 

2. How are the British going to be able to charge when their front line will keep getting shot, and people will keep falling over everyone, and then process keeps repeating?

 

 

3. The U.S. Marine don't have to kill an entire line, they just have to keep wounding people and making them virtually useless.

 

 

Put it this way.

 

If the U.S. Marines are out of the British guns range, and they all form a line, with 80 bullets in each gun, they can kill 8,000 people in a matter of seconds, not to mention the wounded that would be hurt with the bullets going through bodies, and it wouldn't take long for them to back up, reload, and [expletive] rape that British yet again.

 

 

The only ideas that people have is surrounding the U.S. Marines in a circle, which would never happen.

 

 

This fight could be over in less than an hour.

 

 

EASY ANSWER!

Edited April 26, 2010 by EastCoastNiner

[YugoRocketsFan]

Some of you are plain stupid.

 

The U.S. Marines would WIPE out the British army in no time at all.

 

 

1. The weapons today are so advanced and powerful that they can shoot while the British are far away where their VERY inaccurate guns will not be able to reach.

 

And, if you learned about your history, the British just aim straight and fire.

 

One musket bullet to the chest of a U.S. Marine isn't going to do anything, but one magazine from a machine gun can not only mow down the first line, but it will go to the second line and hit some of those people, making them useless.

 

2. How are the British going to be able to charge when their front line will keep getting shot, and people will keep falling over everyone, and then process keeps repeating?

 

 

3. The U.S. Marine don't have to kill an entire line, they just have to keep wounding people and making them virtually useless.

 

 

Put it this way.

 

If the U.S. Marines are out of the British guns range, and they all form a line, with 80 bullets in each gun, they can kill 8,000 people in a matter of seconds, not to mention the wounded that would be hurt with the bullets going through bodies, and it wouldn't take long for them to back up, reload, and [expletive] rape that British yet again.

 

 

The only ideas that people have is surrounding the U.S. Marines in a circle, which would never happen.

 

 

This fight could be over in less than an hour.

 

 

EASY ANSWER!

 

Yet another person assuming that Marines have god mode on. Why dont we just assume that the Marines can turn into Transformers.

[YugoRocketsFan]

War is never merely people vs people, and there was no mention of any restriction to weapons or machinery in the original post. If you think that a ton of people with mere rifles and canons could do anything against an aerial assault, then you must have been born with half a brain.

 

They are marines, not Air corps brah.

[fish7718]

Some of you are plain stupid.

 

The U.S. Marines would WIPE out the British army in no time at all.

 

 

1. The weapons today are so advanced and powerful that they can shoot while the British are far away where their VERY inaccurate guns will not be able to reach.

 

And, if you learned about your history, the British just aim straight and fire.

 

One musket bullet to the chest of a U.S. Marine isn't going to do anything, but one magazine from a machine gun can not only mow down the first line, but it will go to the second line and hit some of those people, making them useless.

 

2. How are the British going to be able to charge when their front line will keep getting shot, and people will keep falling over everyone, and then process keeps repeating?

 

 

3. The U.S. Marine don't have to kill an entire line, they just have to keep wounding people and making them virtually useless.

 

 

Put it this way.

 

If the U.S. Marines are out of the British guns range, and they all form a line, with 80 bullets in each gun, they can kill 8,000 people in a matter of seconds, not to mention the wounded that would be hurt with the bullets going through bodies, and it wouldn't take long for them to back up, reload, and [expletive] rape that British yet again.

 

 

The only ideas that people have is surrounding the U.S. Marines in a circle, which would never happen.

 

 

This fight could be over in less than an hour.

 

 

EASY ANSWER

Nah you''re wrong you don't know how much 112,000 people, the chances of 100 marines being able to hold 112,000 bullets is highly unlikely too. That's 37 clips each and assuming that you have to account for the fact they will miss a lot thats over 50 clips each and thats really going to hamper their mobility. Revolutionary war soliders may have not been as good as they are today but they aren't morons and they did charge and had bayonetts, 112,000 people charging marines would have to go through over 50 clips to kill them all and they'd have to do this with premier accuracy, and at the rate they'd have to fire the chances of them being that accurate is highly unlikely. So now we are talking 75 clips. So you really think 100 marines can unload 75 clips each before British soldiers can cross a field?