EastCoastNiner Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 The NBA lottery is terrible, and is probably the dumbest possible way to determine draft selections. They should follow the NHL's lottery, which is MUCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH better. In the NHL, teams can only move up FOUR spots, meaning only the teams with the five highest odds can possibly get the 1st overall pick. Also, teams can only move down ONE spot, meaning that if you had the highest odds, you would pick 2nd at worst. The NBA lottery is garbage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChosenOne Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 I agree. I also think it should be done either all live or done like the NFL as in worth team gets the best pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastNiner Posted May 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 I agree. I also think it should be done either all live or done like the NFL as in worth team gets the best pick. I understand that the NHL maybe does it differently because there are seven rounds and more players, but I don't like that the team with the best odds can be bumped down to the 3rd pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reno Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 I agree. I also think it should be done either all live or done like the NFL as in worth team gets the best pick. No way, then you would just get teams that would drop all their games so they could try to get number 1 pick every year. I like how its random. Makes it exciting. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastNiner Posted May 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 No way, then you would just get teams that would drop all their games so they could try to get number 1 pick every year. I like how its random. Makes it exciting. That's not the main problem. I don't like how a team with the best odds of winning the lottery can be bumped down the third. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teletopez Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 How about the idea of the seventeenth seed (with the two conferences placed collectively in the standings) getting getting the 25% chance, and the order works its way down to the 30th seed before going back to the sixteenth seed? That could prevent tanking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipHopHead Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 Why does it matter if the worst team gets the best pick? They should be punished for being [expletive]ty lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clutch Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 lol i love it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Feelgood Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 To be honest, I love the NBA Lottery. Gives everyone that missed the playoffs a chance at getting the first pick. Definitely like the way it's done. Like what was mentioned, it makes it exciting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Blasco Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 I don't mind the lottery. It adds a bit of a potential drawback for massive losing, while still allowing terrible teams to have high draft picks. The worst the Nets could've been this year was 4th. They're 3rd. Should they have been first? Perhaps, but the slight bump down is a bit of justice for playing some of the worst basketball in the history of the NBA for much of this season. There's no justification for the Wizards having the number 1 pick, but that's how the balls dropped. If you don't have this randomization, nothing would stop horrible teams from trying to lose and getting away with it. The only alternative would be to reverse the draft order which is another terrible idea. All drafts are rewards or compensations for losing. The NBA's isn't that much different from the NHL's either. From what you've described of the NHL, only five teams end up in a lottery and only for the top spot. There's not much drawback for a team with a potential first pick winding up picking second, and mediocre teams are screwed completely. In the NBA, at least there isn't a complete lockout for teams that had better seasons than the dregs of the league. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zyzz Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 ECN, you mad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastNiner Posted May 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 I don't mind the lottery. It adds a bit of a potential drawback for massive losing, while still allowing terrible teams to have high draft picks. The worst the Nets could've been this year was 4th. They're 3rd. Should they have been first? Perhaps, but the slight bump down is a bit of justice for playing some of the worst basketball in the history of the NBA for much of this season. There's no justification for the Wizards having the number 1 pick, but that's how the balls dropped. If you don't have this randomization, nothing would stop horrible teams from trying to lose and getting away with it. The only alternative would be to reverse the draft order which is another terrible idea. All drafts are rewards or compensations for losing. The NBA's isn't that much different from the NHL's either. From what you've described of the NHL, only five teams end up in a lottery and only for the top spot. There's not much drawback for a team with a potential first pick winding up picking second, and mediocre teams are screwed completely. In the NBA, at least there isn't a complete lockout for teams that had better seasons than the dregs of the league. A lot of people say that, and it's the dumbest thing someone can say. If teams lose games, they lose fans, merchandise sales, and the list goes on. Teams don't try and lose games. Also, if they are going to let the 14th place team have a chance at the pick, then they should let the playoff teams get a chance as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htownborn Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 (edited) No, keep the lottery the way it is. I used to feel the same way about the draft lottery but you have to understand if they did the draft the way its done in the NFL or the NHL as you said,teams could easily rebuild a franchise. Trust me I should know its happened for the Rockets, infact if I'm not mistaking they made the lottery because of what the Rockets did. They drafted Ralph Sampson in 83 had another horrible season then drafted and Olajuwon ithe next year in 84. Then the next year we were in the finals against Boston. So just imagine how many teams will attempt to tank seasons if the lottery wasn't done the way it is. Edited May 20, 2010 by htownborn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastNiner Posted May 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 No, keep the lottery the way it is. I used to feel the same way about the draft lottery but you have to understand if they did the draft the way its done in the NFL or the NHL as you said,teams could easily rebuild a franchise. Trust me I should know its happened for the Rockets, infact if I'm not mistaking they made the lottery because of what the Rockets did. They drafted Ralph Sampson in 83 had another horrible season then drafted and Olajuwon ithe next year in 84. Then the next year we were in the finals against Boston. So just imagine how many teams will attempt to tank seasons if the lottery wasn't done the way it is. That's a myth. Teams don't tank like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Blasco Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 A lot of people say that, and it's the dumbest thing someone can say. If teams lose games, they lose fans, merchandise sales, and the list goes on. Teams don't try and lose games. Also, if they are going to let the 14th place team have a chance at the pick, then they should let the playoff teams get a chance as well. No they don't actively try and lose, but they don't play with any incentive to win if they have a guaranteed first pick. A lottery removes shenanigans if teams do try to lose. And the revenue lost by a bad season can skyrocket in time with a superstar draft pick. The one bad season the Spurs had in the 90's has paid off a thousand fold by what Tim Duncan has brought, to name an example. Virtually every single franchise that has won a title or competed for a title has had the benefit of an elite draft pick on their team, or has used the pick in a trade to acquire someone. What is the rationale for giving playoff teams lottery chances? The lottery should still only help non-playoff teams as ways of reversing some franchises. The weighted lottery keeps awful teams from automatically having top tier draft choices, while still giving them terrific chances of having those top tier draft choices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htownborn Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 That's a myth. Teams don't tank like that. Yeah, teams don't tank like that in the NBA because it would be pointless if you don't even know if your going to get a top 5 pick. But be honest and I take it your a Nets fan if the NBA didn't have the lottery the worst team automatically gets the first pick you don't think the Nets wouldnt try it. Expecially with the Nets new owner who ants to make the Nets championship contenders within 5 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted May 20, 2010 Owner Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 Devin Harris, Brook Lopez, Courtney Lee, Chris Douglas-Roberts...that team shouldn't be the worst in the league, let alone on pace to setting a record for the most losses in a season by ANY team in NBA history (up until what, the 65th game or so?). Quite frankly, if I had proof of a team tanking, I would rip their first-rounder from them. The NFL draft absolutely sucks, and the NHL draft rewards tanking teams more than the NBA does...so NBA it is, without a doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 (edited) Tanking is no myth. The lottery was implemented in response to blatant tanking. Even with the lottery in place teams tanked hard for the Duncan draft. Boston pre-KG trade tanked shamelessly. It happens even in a lottery. You're mad the Nets got 3rd? Try the Warriors. The lottery is implemented for the first year in the Ewing draft. Dubs have the worst record in the league. End up with the last pick in the lottery. Now THAT is a screw job. What needs to happen is to change the odds slightly. More weighting for the worst three. Edited May 20, 2010 by Sky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWaLL Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 Don't be mad because the Nets got unlucky in the lottery. [expletive] happens, and it's about time something good came to our franchise... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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