Newman Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 Don't worry, he's not going to go off like that every game. 3 to 4 3-pointers can be very demoralizing as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobb Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 3 to 4 3-pointers can be very demoralizing as well.But seven in a row, which put the Celtics up by like 14? That's what you call demoralizing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemon Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 Like Boston made adjustments to us, we will make adjustments to them. Particularly, the Boston backcourt needs to be better contained. It'll be tough to get around those screens to get to Ray Allen, but Lakers will make sure that is focal point on their defense. Also, we're probably not going to let Rondo get that many rebounds again. Boston's frontcourt is the lesser of their two evils so I think we're going to make them pass the ball to their bigs. On offense, we just need to do a better job of keeping the ball away from Artest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted June 7, 2010 Author Owner Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/9194/1275878743746.jpg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 Damn, Bynum with 7 blocks and Pau with 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YugoRocketsFan Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/9194/1275878743746.jpgIm pretty sure Gasol had a little finger tip on the ball at the end, which the picture doesnt show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted June 7, 2010 Author Owner Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 Im pretty sure Gasol had a little finger tip on the ball at the end, which the picture doesnt show.So Garnett and Gasol's hands both just stopped moving, and Gasol's fingertip decided to creep in and push the ball out of bounds? That ball was out on Garnett. Every finger in the photo is sitting behind Kevin's, and during the replay, Jackson and Van Gundy both called it Lakers ball, and believed it was 100% going to be overturned. Big call that led to a five-point deficit, instead of our ball with a three point deficit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clutch Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 (edited) garnett's entire hand was on the ball lol - and that pinky tip...it looks that way because of the white tape kg is wearin..gasol's hand was on kg's hand Edited June 7, 2010 by Clutch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastNiner Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/9194/1275878743746.jpg You want to post the entire follow through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guru Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZVpUGGN7Jo ... around 3:00its out on KG, if you think otherwise you are blind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poe Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 Yea, when I saw that live, I was in awe that they didn't overturn that. Seriously, it cannot get more obvious that that was out on Garnett. They even REVIEWED IT for crying out loud. God, that call truly sums up the refereeing during these Finals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
platoon793 Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 http://i46.tinypic.com/2dl2csz.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 Yeah, the fact that they reviewed it and still got the call wrong is what was really sad about that play. But still, the Lakers loss was completely on them, not the refs. Both teams got raped by the officials last night, and if anything Boston was on the wrong end of it more often than the Lakers were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YugoRocketsFan Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 http://i46.tinypic.com/2dl2csz.jpg Yeah looks like Gasol touches it, you can see his finger there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
platoon793 Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 Yeah, exactly. If you watch the whole play, Garnett has it basically in his hands, and Gasol's finger pushes it out. Just go to that post that Guru or whoever put up, and watch the play at around 3. You can see Gasol's finger pushing it out of Garnett's hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poe Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 http://i46.tinypic.com/2dl2csz.jpgYea, off Garnett... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poe Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 (edited) Yeah looks like Gasol touches it, you can see his finger there.You do realize that Garnett has a bandage on his finger? I mean, seriously, Gasol would have to have a pretty damn long finger for him to touch it from where his hand is. Edited June 7, 2010 by Poe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
platoon793 Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 I don't know, it depends on the angle. If you look at it from the back, it seems like it came off Garnett. If you look at it from the angel I posted it seems to me Gasol's finger pushes it out. And I just watched a side view of it and I can't tell clearly. It went by fast and I can't tell who last touched the ball. Very close though. I might have to give it to the Lakers from that side angle, but maybe the refs thought it was inconclusive and decided not to overturn the call. Also, let's not forget the horrible defense by the Lakers that came from that play. They left Rondo wide open. Either way, Boston deserved the win in my opinion. The calls were bad either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poe Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 (edited) How can anyone look at that and say it's inconclusive? Garnett's hand is in front of Gasol's. Clear as [expletive]ing day. I'm starting to think that people just see what they want to see, and those who are pulling for the Celtics are going to say it went off Gasol or it's inconclusive no matter what. This is reminding me of that video with LeBron and the towel boy, when LBJ clearly did not see him yet people still called him an [expletive] hole. Mainly LeBron haters, and I don't like LeBron myself yet I could see the video clearly. Edit: BTW, if it was truly inconclusive it would have been a jump ball. The ref must have mistaken Garnett's taped finger for a finger on Gasol's hand, that's the only explanation I can think of. Edited June 7, 2010 by Poe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
platoon793 Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 You do realize that Garnett has a bandage on his finger? I mean, seriously, Gasol would have to have a pretty damn long finger for him to touch it from where his hand is.Yeah, you can't really tell from that because of the color if it is Garnett's finger with the bandage or Gasol's. It seems to me Gasol's hand pushes on Garnett's and pushes it out, with one of his fingers on the ball last. But from the side angle it seems a bit more conclusive what happened. But I think the refs thought it was inconclusive and kept the call. Either way, Lakers should have played better defense and instead left a wide open jumper from Rondo. I understand he kind of sucks at jumpers but at least have someone near him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobb Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 You guys are still debating on who the ball went out on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
platoon793 Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 (edited) How can anyone look at that and say it's inconclusive? Garnett's hand is in front of Gasol's. Clear as [expletive]ing day. I'm starting to think that people just see what they want to see, and those who are pulling for the Celtics are going to say it went off Gasol or it's inconclusive no matter what. This is reminding me of that video with LeBron and the towel boy, when LBJ clearly did not see him yet people still called him an [expletive] hole. Mainly LeBron haters, and I don't like LeBron myself yet I could see the video clearly. Edit: BTW, if it was truly inconclusive it would have been a jump ball. The ref must have mistaken Garnett's taped finger for a finger on Gasol's hand, that's the only explanation I can think of.Well, I'm actually not rooting for either team, because I kind of hate both teams. I could care less who wins. But I don't think it is as clear as you think it is. Watch Gasol's hand motion in that play. It seems he pushes Garnett's hand and I can't tell if one of his fingers touch the ball or not. But if I were calling that, I think I would give it to the Lakers, or as you said just a jump ball. EDIT: No, I don't think they do jump balls if it is inconclusive. I think if the evidence is inconclusive, they don't overturn the call. Edited June 7, 2010 by platoon793 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poe Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 (edited) Either way, Lakers should have played better defense and instead left a wide open jumper from Rondo. I understand he kind of sucks at jumpers but at least have someone near him.A jumper from Rondo is something the Lakers can live with. They'd rather him do that than give Allen or Rondo himself an open lane to the basket. Anyway, as much as I complain about refereeing at times, I hardly ever blame losses for them. It was pretty crummy on both sides. The real reasons for the Lakers loss was giving Ray Ray open looks (matching Sasha with him would have helped), Ron Artest getting in ultra chuck mode, and Kobe Bryant getting in foul trouble resulting in limited minutes and non-aggressive play. Edited June 7, 2010 by Poe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poe Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 EDIT: No, I don't think they do jump balls if it is inconclusive. I think if the evidence is inconclusive, they don't overturn the call.I've seen jump balls plenty of times when the refs are unsure of who the ball went out on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobb Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 This is totally off-topic but I just realized that Lamar Odom got 3 fouls in 53 seconds. That's crazy. :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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