Poe Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 Oh, I know...I just don't think I can scream anymore at the point guard position than I did this season. Had Kobe not flipped over to defend Westbrook in the last two games of that OKC/LAL series, we would've been out in the first round, no joke. And I'd hate to think of what Rondo would've done to Derek Fisher and Jordan Farmar in the NBA Finals. He dominated when Kobe was in foul trouble, and most of his points came with others on him.So then I suppose it comes down to Blake, Felton (affordable?), Livingston, and maybe Wright, unless the Lakers plan on trading for a PG. All of which can defend well enough for you to not lose your voice by the next day. Livingston lacks range to stretch the floor, and Wright's ability to run an offense consistently are question marks. Blake and Felton are ideal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Blasco Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 Farmar has a pair of rings, I can't fault him for wanting to try and land a starting gig. You can't say nobody would start him either---the Pacers would love him, Atlanta would take a flier, Miami would give him the chance to win a starting spot and he'd probably beat out Chalmers and Quinn, the Knicks might start him, if Detroit is soured on Stuckey, Farmar could beat him out. I'd start him over Baron Davis if I were the Clippers. Sure these aren't title teams, but for a bench player who has rings, there's nothing wrong with trying to see how good you can be as a starter. The tough part is that Shannon Brown is probably out too, and I don't believe the Lakers have more than the mid-level to offer free agents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted June 23, 2010 Owner Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 So then I suppose it comes down to Blake, Felton (affordable?), Livingston, and maybe Wright, unless the Lakers plan on trading for a PG. All of which can defend well enough for you to not lose your voice by the next day. Livingston lacks range to stretch the floor, and Wright's ability to run an offense consistently are question marks. Blake and Felton are ideal.I think Felton will make more than the MLE. Blake, who knows...someone may overpay for him. Livingston is out of the question for me. I was a fan of his game, but I can't deal with anymore injury-prone players if they are in our starting five, and that's what we're looking at. Wright would be fantastic for us, but I really can't say if he's ready to start for a championship-caliber team, especially at the point. We wouldn't be asking him to exactly run the offense (that's Kobe), but it's still a massive role, nonetheless. Haha, can't say I've ever agreed that he will be an all-star, but I still like him. Farmar has a pair of rings, I can't fault him for wanting to try and land a starting gig. You can't say nobody would start him either---the Pacers would love him, Atlanta would take a flier, Miami would give him the chance to win a starting spot and he'd probably beat out Chalmers and Quinn, the Knicks might start him, if Detroit is soured on Stuckey, Farmar could beat him out. I'd start him over Baron Davis if I were the Clippers. Sure these aren't title teams, but for a bench player who has rings, there's nothing wrong with trying to see how good you can be as a starter. The tough part is that Shannon Brown is probably out too, and I don't believe the Lakers have more than the mid-level to offer free agents."Nobody" as in, no decent team. I think Chalmers would beat out Farmar, by the way. If Shannon Brown is gone, more power to us. Brown was another problem, once Kobe fell to injury. Shannon had a couple of very good games, and then he started acting like he WAS Kobe Bryant, launching contested shots and pretending to be a superstar. His defense took a hit, no idea why, and he became a liability. Those fantastic dunks and come-from-behind blocks were fun, but that's about it. If someone were to tell me that we could replace Brown and Farmar with Hinrich, or Blake, or Felton...I would be jumping for joy. Throw in Powell while we're at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Artesticle Posted June 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 I like Shannon Brown for the money he is making now, but if he opts out and seeks a larger deal then goodbye. I love his highlight plays, but with a bigger role this year, his game has been exposed. He turned into a chucker and everyone realized just how low his basketball IQ is. Steve Blake is the perfect PG for us to sign, IMO. He's a vet, he can shoot the 3 and knock down open shots, he can run the offense, and is an upgrade defensively over Farmar. He also shouldn't cost too much if nobody tries to overpay him, so he should fit in our budget as well. He's not flashy, but he's someone who can get the job done. If we add Blake and Bell this offseason for Farmar and Morrison we'd be in perfect shape to repeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Blasco Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 I think Felton will make more than the MLE. Blake, who knows...someone may overpay for him. Livingston is out of the question for me. I was a fan of his game, but I can't deal with anymore injury-prone players if they are in our starting five, and that's what we're looking at. Wright would be fantastic for us, but I really can't say if he's ready to start for a championship-caliber team, especially at the point. We wouldn't be asking him to exactly run the offense (that's Kobe), but it's still a massive role, nonetheless. Haha, can't say I've ever agreed that he will be an all-star, but I still like him. "Nobody" as in, no decent team. I think Chalmers would beat out Farmar, by the way. If Shannon Brown is gone, more power to us. Brown was another problem, once Kobe fell to injury. Shannon had a couple of very good games, and then he started acting like he WAS Kobe Bryant, launching contested shots and pretending to be a superstar. His defense took a hit, no idea why, and he became a liability. Those fantastic dunks and come-from-behind blocks were fun, but that's about it. If someone were to tell me that we could replace Brown and Farmar with Hinrich, or Blake, or Felton...I would be jumping for joy. Throw in Powell while we're at it. If Hinrich, Blake, and Felton want to start, or want to make more money than the MLE, then what else is out there? I'm not thrilled with Farmar and Brown, but they're both okay for what they are, cheap, above-average backups. I don't know who is and isn't a free agent besides the guys I mentioned, but you don't want to give big minutes to a rookie, and you don't want to be stuck with someone like Sebastian Telfair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted June 23, 2010 Owner Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 If Hinrich, Blake, and Felton want to start, or want to make more money than the MLE, then what else is out there? I'm not thrilled with Farmar and Brown, but they're both okay for what they are, cheap, above-average backups. I don't know who is and isn't a free agent besides the guys I mentioned, but you don't want to give big minutes to a rookie, and you don't want to be stuck with someone like Sebastian Telfair.Hinrich, Blake and Felton would all start over Fisher. I'm almost 100% sure Fisher is willing to come off the bench next season. He mentioned it once already, but there was NO WAY Farmar was going to start over him. Other than those guys, there are FA's out there that we would look at. Half don't play defense, and the other don't shoot well...but I guess we're chasing benchies. CJ Watson is one that comes to mind. Knowing Phil, he would make an attempt to play Dorell Wright at the point...and while he seems to be the perfect player for us, I'm not sure how well he'll handle that position on the floor. Shaun Livingston will do, if he stays healthy. Plus, there are plenty we would explore in trade scenarios. Jarrett Jack is definitely ideal, and Kupchak would be the first to try and include him in a deal for Bynum (assuming we try and hand Bynum to Toronto). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Poe Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 (edited) Well, I have my reasons for thinking Dorell has all star potential, as you know. It seems to me that his brightest future is at the PG position, and he understands this, so he'll be looking to sign for a team that's willing to play him there. Unlike Sasha, he has great court vision and can do more than just camp and shoot, and unlike Sun Yue, he is actually a good basketball player. If he can guard PGs consistently, he'd create mismatches and will have many games like this one. I understand the risk, since Spoelstra didn't always trust him to play the point (I don't understand why myself, though he must have had his reasons). He does still have some more room to grow, and the upside could be tremendous for LA and would make the Lakers unmatched by any team. Livingston has his risks as well. Bringing another injury prone player to the starting line up I suppose is something the Lakers wish to avoid. Wright has also been injury prone throughout his career, though it appears to have become something of the past after playing 70 games this year, while Livingston's is more fresh and he's barely recovered. So I suppose for the Lakers, the first option will be to see if they can pull off a trade for Hinrich or a sign-and-trade for Felton. If that fails, the second option will be to sign Steve Blake from free agency for the mid-level. If another team is willing to overpay him, then take a look at Livingston and Wright. Edited June 23, 2010 by Poe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dash Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 Kyle Lowry is by far the best MLE point guard available. He said he might consider leaving Housotn if he can get a starting gig elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren2ThaG Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 Lakers thinking about offering Farmar one-year deal worth $3 million"While their coach debates whether to return or retire, the Lakers press onward. They have no choice. The NBA calendar calls for the free-agency period to begin Wednesday at 9:01 p.m. The Lakers might not only lose Phil Jackson and assistant coach Brian Shaw, who is edging closer to becoming Cleveland's head coach, but they also have six free agents on their roster, almost half their team. There are many, many questions. Will they re-sign Derek Fisher and Shannon Brown? What other options are there at point guard? Any frontcourt players in the picture? And will they maybe keep Jordan Farmar after all? Fisher, 35, is their main free-agent concern after his sturdy playoff presence probably extended his pro career by at least one more season. The Lakers could sign him for the veteran's minimum of $1.35 million for a player with his experience (14 seasons), but Fisher wants something closer to the $5 million he made this past season. It does not look like an easy negotiation, with Fisher saying last week he has a "strong feeling about what my value is to a team," but the Lakers hope talks do not stagnate after going through a laborious monthlong process last July before re-signing Lamar Odom."---http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-lakers-20100630,0,2902883.story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Regime Posted July 1, 2010 Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 Lakers Let Farmar Become UFA The Lakers decided Wednesday not to give restricted guard Jordan Farmar a one-year, $3-million qualifying offer. Farmar will become an unrestricted free agent. "The Lakers cared enough to let me become a free agent," Farmar said in a phone interview. "I was excited to hear it. I was real happy. If I do decide to leave, I'll have nothing but positive things to remember about the Lakers." http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/67637/20100630/lakers_let_farmar_become_ufa/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted July 1, 2010 Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 Kyle Lowry is by far the best MLE point guard available. He said he might consider leaving Housotn if he can get a starting gig elsewhere. Lowry isn't worth the full MLE. He is a very inefficient scorer and simply can't shoot (sub-40% last year from the field, 27% from 3). And it's not like he has great PG abilities to make-up for that, especially on the Lakers where he will get a lot of open jumpers. But they will need to find some PG though, especially with Farmar gone. I'm not saying that Lowry would be any worse than Farmar because he wouldn't, and getting him would be an upgrade. But he doesn't fill some of the holes the Lakers need, which is why I wouldn't offer him the full MLE unless it was the last option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vitasoy Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 Apparently, he's going to the Nets. #nba Nets and Jordan Farmar soon will agree to 3yr/$12m deal http://twitter.com/jalenrose/status/18307919992 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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