NomarFachix Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 By the Red Sox AAAA lineup. [expletive], even Lackey went 2 for 3. Big boys bashin. Trojan, where you at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest STL10 Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 He had one bad outing. It was laughable people thought he would eclipse Bob Gibson's 1968. Bob Gibson=Most clutch pitcher ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomarFachix Posted July 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2010 17 ER in his past three starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trutrojan8 Posted July 5, 2010 Report Share Posted July 5, 2010 Cool bro, he still has 33% of the wins the Mets/Red Sox have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomarFachix Posted July 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2010 http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=9624881 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish7718 Posted July 5, 2010 Report Share Posted July 5, 2010 On 7/5/2010 at 7:04 AM, trutrojan8 said: Cool bro, he still has 33% of the wins the Mets/Red Sox have flawed math? Red Sox - 49 wins Ubaldo 14 wins...Anyways what relevance is that anyway? Judging pitchers on W-L is humorous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trutrojan8 Posted July 5, 2010 Report Share Posted July 5, 2010 On 7/5/2010 at 7:19 AM, Cotton Camby said: http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=9624881http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/2010-04-15-rockies-mets_N.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomarFachix Posted July 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2010 lol what is that link? I'm a Yankees fan, I don't care if the Rockies beat the Mets... ^_^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trutrojan8 Posted July 5, 2010 Report Share Posted July 5, 2010 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_American_League_Championship_Series And I could care less if one person squared up on a ball against Ubaldo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomarFachix Posted July 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2010 lol, that's your rebuttal? We won the World Series last year. That alone is one more than the Rockies franchise. If you could care less, you wouldn't be so upset right now. 2004... lol -_- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trutrojan8 Posted July 5, 2010 Report Share Posted July 5, 2010 On 7/5/2010 at 6:00 PM, Cotton Camby said: lol, that's your rebuttal? We won the World Series last year. That alone is one more than the Rockies franchise. If you could care less, you wouldn't be so upset right now. 2004... lol -_-Whatever you say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trutrojan8 Posted July 5, 2010 Report Share Posted July 5, 2010 On 7/5/2010 at 7:21 AM, Fish7718 said: flawed math? Red Sox - 49 wins Ubaldo 14 wins...Anyways what relevance is that anyway? Judging pitchers on W-L is humorousIt might be humorous if someone is say 7-1 with a 6.70 ERA, but if the ERA and wins are consistent, it really doesn't matter.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phightins Posted July 5, 2010 Report Share Posted July 5, 2010 Ubaldo Jimenez is great and very well deserving of 14 wins, so this is not an indictment of him, but W-L for a pitcher is hands down the most overrated, irrelevant, and overused statistic in sports. Really shows nothing in most cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trutrojan8 Posted July 5, 2010 Report Share Posted July 5, 2010 On 7/5/2010 at 6:11 PM, Phightins said: Ubaldo Jimenez is great and very well deserving of 14 wins, so this is not an indictment of him, but W-L for a pitcher is hands down the most overrated, irrelevant, and overused statistic in sports. Really shows nothing in most cases.I completely agree for the most part, but it's not like his win loss is a complete fluke.. he won those games because the first 11 games he pitched in he allowed 7 runs. Since his ERA corresponded with his victories, I don't see why it's such an outrageous claim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phightins Posted July 5, 2010 Report Share Posted July 5, 2010 (edited) Well, I should clarify. On an individual season-to-season basis, I find it irrelevant, because of all the other factors that go into whether a pitcher gets a win or loss (run support, poor defense, an umpire having an absurd strike zone, and all the hundreds of other less obvious factors). I do think that W-L is very relevant when looking at a career as a whole (after a 15 or 20 year career). I think the law of averages cancels out most of those factors I mentioned after a certain amount of time. But for one season, wins is not relevant. Edited July 5, 2010 by Phightins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Wolf Posted July 5, 2010 Report Share Posted July 5, 2010 On 7/5/2010 at 6:11 PM, Phightins said: Ubaldo Jimenez is great and very well deserving of 14 wins, so this is not an indictment of him, but W-L for a pitcher is hands down the most overrated, irrelevant, and overused statistic in sports. Really shows nothing in most cases.Roy Oswalt any one?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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