Dorell Wright should start at PG

[Poe]

The Heat should resign Dorell and have him start at PG.

 

Wade is a combo guard and LeBron is a point forward, so Wright won't be pressured to do a lot of ball handling. All he has to do is guard his man and play well off the ball. He would create huge mismatches, plus he can space the floor with his 40% 3PT J.

[Check my Stats]

He is gone unless he wants a minimum contract, sorry... this isn't a very good idea anyways they just need a sharpshooter not someone who handles the ball.

[Poe]

He is gone unless he wants a minimum contract, sorry... this isn't a very good idea anyways they just need a sharpshooter not someone who handles the ball.

I'm not 100% sure how it works, but I believe the Heat have his Bird rights, which I think allows the team to go over the cap. Mickey Arison is willing to pay the extra money.

[YugoRocketsFan]

You shouldnt care, you're winning like 5 rings in a row.

[Check my Stats]

You lose his birds when you sign max players, that is what was going to happen to the Raptors but we obtained Hedo via S&T rather than outright signing him.... to outright sign these 2 the Heat will have to waive the rights to their expirings players.

 

Unless Cavs and Raps s&t both guys, all their expirings are gone.

Edited July 9, 2010 by travesy3

[Poe]

You lose his birds when you sign max players, that is what was going to happen to the Raptors but we obtained Hedo via S&T rather than outright signing him.... to outright sign these 2 the Heat will have to waive the rights to their expirings players.

 

Unless Cavs and Raps s&t both guys, all their expirings are gone.

 

That would suck if they can't resign him. He's been on the team for about 6 years and he was one of my favorite players.

 

Oh well, I guess gaining three superstars has it's downside somewhere (I know, I know). I'll still hope Riley finds a way to bring him back somehow.

[SRV]

Don;t know where to put this, and it doesn't deserve its own topic, but did we resign Joel Anthony? Cause Lebron said his name in the interview.

[Guest STL10]

How about...

 

PG:LeBron

SG:Wade

SF:Wright

PF:Bosh

C:Pittman/Brad Miller

6th Man:Beasley

[Gorilla Dog]

The Heat should resign Dorell and have him start at PG.

 

Wade is a combo guard and LeBron is a point forward, so Wright won't be pressured to do a lot of ball handling. All he has to do is guard his man and play well off the ball. He would create huge mismatches, plus he can space the floor with his 40% 3PT J.

 

He doesn't have the talent or skills to be a starting PG on a championship caliber team.

 

LeBron should play PG for Miami and try to play a similar role Magic did with the Lakers. LeBron has the talent, skills, court vision, etc. to play PG.

[Nitro]

Horrible idea. He's taken over one 3 pointer once in his career, and his career % is 34%. Miami will really need a sharp shooter for the floor to be spaced well enough to be as effective as possible. If that PG isn't a knockdown shooter, it better be a lockdown defender. Wright is neither.

[Poe]

Don;t know where to put this, and it doesn't deserve its own topic, but did we resign Joel Anthony? Cause Lebron said his name in the interview.

 

I haven't heard anything about him being resigned.

 

How about...

 

PG:LeBron

SG:Wade

SF:Wright

PF:Bosh

C:Pittman/Brad Miller

6th Man:Beasley

 

I prefer...

 

Wright - Wade - LeBron - Bosh - Pittman/(whoever gets signed)

 

or even

 

Wright - Wade - LeBron - Beasley - Bosh (assuming the Heat manage to keep Beasley as well as gain LeBron and Bosh)

 

LeBron is best used as a help defender at small forward, where he can rack up his steals and blocks. Same thing with Dwyane Wade.

 

Like I said, all Wright is asked to do is defend and play off the ball, and set up the offense at times (which he is perfectly capable of doing). Him being 6'9'' would create huge mismatches, added to the fact that Wade, LeBron, and Bosh are mismatches in themselves. It's perfect.

Edited July 9, 2010 by Poe

[Poe]

I don't think you guys realize, but with Wade and LeBron starting together, the Heat don't need a traditional point guard. Having Wright playing the point will make him very difficult to defend at 6'9'', adding to the fact that the line up includes three superstars.

Edited July 9, 2010 by Poe

[YugoRocketsFan]

I don't think you guys realize, but with Wade and LeBron starting together, the Heat don't need a traditional point guard. Having Wright playing the point will make him very difficult to defend at 6'9'', adding to the fact that the line up includes three superstars.

 

I agree, the Heat just need a PG who can spot up for 3s. LeBron/Wade arent 3 point shooters. They also could sign Shaq.

[Gorilla Dog]

I don't think you guys realize, but with Wade and LeBron starting together, the Heat don't need a traditional point guard. Having Wright playing the point will make him very difficult to defend at 6'9'', adding to the fact that the line up includes three superstars.

 

They don't need a traditional PG? When did the Heat start running the Triangle?

[Poe]

They don't need a traditional PG? When did the Heat start running the Triangle?

Common bro.

[SRV]

Lebron is going to handle the ball up the court, and then its a free for all from there. We don't need a PG, but we need a center cause Dwight and Pau will destroy us.

[Nitro]

I don't think you guys realize, but with Wade and LeBron starting together, the Heat don't need a traditional point guard. Having Wright playing the point will make him very difficult to defend at 6'9'', adding to the fact that the line up includes three superstars.

 

Of course they don't need a traditional PG, but they do need a great 3pt shooter and/or a lockdown defender at the PG position. Wright is not a sniper from 3 which would mean the Heat would have very little floor spacing, and it'd make everyone's job much more difficult. And I really doubt Wright can defend quicker PG's, and forcing Wade or Bron to fill that role would just be unnecessary.

 

And it isn't like Wright has a post-game where he can abuse smaller PG's ala Billups or D-Will. With Wade and LeBron, his decent skills as a playmaker really doesn't mean anything. They need a shooter at PG.

[Poe]

Of course they don't need a traditional PG, but they do need a great 3pt shooter and/or a lockdown defender at the PG position. Wright is not a sniper from 3 which would mean the Heat would have very little floor spacing, and it'd make everyone's job much more difficult. And I really doubt Wright can defend quicker PG's, and forcing Wade or Bron to fill that role would just be unnecessary.

 

And it isn't like Wright has a post-game where he can abuse smaller PG's ala Billups or D-Will. With Wade and LeBron, his decent skills as a playmaker really doesn't mean anything. They need a shooter at PG.

 

You're still ignoring the fact that he is a mismatch AND he's a very good shooter. He's no Ray Allen, obviously, but it's going to be very hard for PGs to contest a SIX FOOT NINE player.

 

Also, I don't think you are taking into account exactly how much attention Bron, Wade, and Bosh are getting, here. That's three guys that command double teams. Nobody will be willing to double a role player like Wright and leave a superstar alone, so PGs will be stranded on an island trying to guard a player that's head and shoulders taller than them, who not only shot nearly 40% from 3 last year in his first season of consistent playing time, but can also handle the ball well enough to play point guard (which he has before), is an underrated passer, and can defend the point as well.

Edited July 9, 2010 by Poe

[Check my Stats]

They don't even need a PG they just need a shooter, Wade can guard the 1's if need be and LBJ can play the 2 if the 3 is a sharpshooter (Mike Miller) this team is so versatile because they have two of the best 3 players in the world.

[Check my Stats]

[expletive], even Kyle Korver would be perfect and he is probably a realistic option.

[YugoRocketsFan]

Common bro.

 

DW about him, its just Kingfish using his 2nd user name. Be proud, dont listen to anyone's opinions on your team because you're winning 5 rings.

[Nitro]

Before I continue, let me say I'm not saying it can't be done, but it is far from the best option.

 

You're still ignoring the fact that he is a mismatch AND he's a very good shooter. He's no Ray Allen, obviously, but it's going to be very hard for PGs to contest a SIX FOOT NINE player.

 

I'm not ignoring it, but having that height advantage at the PG position means nothing if he has no post-game and isn't a lights out shooter (you can argue this, but he's taken over 1 3PA once in his career, and is 34% career).

 

And you're not taking into account that Wright himself will be at a mismatch. He doesn't have the speed to guard Rondo, Westbrook, Paul, etc... If you force Wade or Bron to guard PG's, that minimizes their defensive effectiveness for an unecessary reason.

 

Also, I don't think you are taking into account exactly how much attention Bron, Wade, and Bosh are getting, here. That's three guys that command double teams. Nobody will be willing to double a role player like Wright and leave a superstar alone, so PGs will be stranded on an island trying to guard a player that's head and shoulders taller than them, who not only shot nearly 40% from 3 last year in his first season of consistent playing time, but can also handle the ball well enough to play point guard (which he has before), is an underrated passer, and can defend the point as well.

 

As I said, it can happen, but it's not the best choice. They need a knockdown shooter, and one season of taking over 1 3PA and shooting a good % just isn't enough evidence for me. With their talent it might not need to be enough evidence, but there's probably much wiser options. They're going to need a PG that has the ability to consistently hit the 3pt shot while taking at least 4-5 shots from deep every game.

 

And once again, his passing skills don't mean much with LeBron and Wade. He'll be needing to do less passing than Fisher does on the Lakers. All he needs to do is stand behind the 3pt line and nail it at an efficient clip, and needs to be able to defend the PG position well. I don't think he could do either as well as some of the other options that might be available.

[Poe]

I'm not ignoring it, but having that height advantage at the PG position means nothing if he has no post-game and isn't a lights out shooter (you can argue this, but he's taken over 1 3PA once in his career, and is 34% career).

 

Yes, and that was his only year of consistent playing time. He is a very good 3 point shooter, and can score in other areas of the floor as well.

 

Last year, Wright shot 39% from 3PT range, as well as 46% from the field, and 88% from the free throw line.

 

The way I see it, the rest of his career doesn't count much since he was either a reserve (behind Posey and Walker during the contending years), or he was battling injuries.

 

And you're not taking into account that Wright himself will be at a mismatch. He doesn't have the speed to guard Rondo, Westbrook, Paul, etc... If you force Wade or Bron to guard PG's, that minimizes their defensive effectiveness for an unecessary reason.

 

All I can say to that is "yes he does". Though he does have an easier time on bigger PGs like Davis and Evens, he can also hold his own against the quicker ones like Rondo and Paul.

 

I guess we can simply agree to disagree, since that is all speculation.

 

 

As I said, it can happen, but it's not the best choice. They need a knockdown shooter, and one season of taking over 1 3PA and shooting a good % just isn't enough evidence for me. With their talent it might not need to be enough evidence, but there's probably much wiser options. They're going to need a PG that has the ability to consistently hit the 3pt shot while taking at least 4-5 shots from deep every game.

 

And I'm saying Wright can handle that job, as well as the ability to score in other areas. Believe me, playing next to supreme talent like Bron, Bosh, and Wade will not only raise his own level of play, but the attention they get will give Wright more space to score easily and effectively, and the mismatch itself will create nightmares for opposing coaches (a nightmare inside of the nightmare of the big 3). Plus he can play very well off the ball comparatively to Trevor Ariza.

 

And once again, his passing skills don't mean much with LeBron and Wade. He'll be needing to do less passing than Fisher does on the Lakers. All he needs to do is stand behind the 3pt line and nail it at an efficient clip, and needs to be able to defend the PG position well. I don't think he could do either as well as some of the other options that might be available.

 

No, he won't do it as well as other options, but again, there are many other things that make up for it and then some. He's a very good player off the ball, a very efficient scorer that shoots a high percentage from all areas on the court, a good ball handler, and has great court-vision and awareness.

 

Plus, his versatility defensively would be a huge advantage for the Heat as well. Having three perimeter players that can defend all three positions (as well as Wright and LeBron's ability to defend PFs) would create headaches for opposing offenses as well.

 

There are just endless possibilities with having Wright start at point that I can even imagine.

[Poe]

DW about him, its just Kingfish using his 2nd user name. Be proud, dont listen to anyone's opinions on your team because you're winning 5 rings.

 

I'm excited, but I'm not proud. I'm just another fan that supports a sports team. I just happen to support one that just became the best.

 

And I always listen to people's opinions no matter what... well, unless they are stupid ones perhaps.

Edited July 9, 2010 by Poe

[Nitro]

Yes, and that was his only year of consistent playing time. He is a very good 3 point shooter, and can score in other areas of the floor as well.

 

Last year, Wright shot 39% from 3PT range, as well as 46% from the field, and 88% from the free throw line.

 

The way I see it, the rest of his career doesn't count much since he was either a reserve (behind Posey and Walker during the contending years), or he was battling injuries.

 

As I said, the evidence may mean something or nothing at all because of the talent this team now has. But I don't see the point on gambling on Wright being a guy that can take 4-5 3's per game and knock 'em down at such a high clip. Not when they'll have a ton of players willing to sign for the minimum that have a more proven history, as well as Beasley as a trading chip to acquire that.

 

And there's a reason he hasn't had consistent playing time and has only played over 20MPG twice in his six year career (both of those times being on horrible teams and still playing just average).

 

The fact that he's played 70+ games only once in six seasons alone should tell you that's a horrible match for this team. With those 3 stars, they'll need consistency at the PG position.

 

All I can say to that is "yes he does". Though he does have an easier time on bigger PGs like Davis and Evens, he can also hold his own against the quicker ones like Rondo and Paul.

 

I guess we can simply agree to disagree, since that is all speculation.

 

Yeah, I'll agree to disagree...I just think that because Wright's relatively athletic does NOT mean he can defend quick PG's. Totally different level of speed.

 

And I'm saying Wright can handle that job, as well as the ability to score in other areas. Believe me, playing next to supreme talent like Bron, Bosh, and Wade will not only raise his own level of play, but the attention they get will give Wright more space to score easily and effectively, and the mismatch itself will create nightmares for opposing coaches (a nightmare inside of the nightmare of the big 3). Plus he can play very well off the ball comparatively to Trevor Ariza.

 

Again...what mismatch? Just because he's 6'9'' means nothing if he doesn't have the necessary skills to use it to his advantage. His ability to shoot over shorter defenders from 3 isn't as much of a mismatch as him trying to defend quick PG's. No matter who they put at PG they won't have a hand in their face too much beyond the 3pt line.

 

No, he won't do it as well as other options, but again, there are many other things that make up for it and then some. He's a very good player off the ball, a very efficient scorer that shoots a high percentage from all areas on the court, a good ball handler, and has great court-vision and awareness.

 

Plus, his versatility defensively would be a huge advantage for the Heat as well. Having three perimeter players that can defend all three positions (as well as Wright and LeBron's ability to defend PFs) would create headaches for opposing offenses as well.

 

There are just endless possibilities with having Wright start at point that I can even imagine.

 

As I said before, there's PLENTY of SG's/SF's in the league that are relatively athletic and have good handles...but how many teams have actually used those players at PG, especially as a starter? Very, very few, and they were far more talented than Wright. And most of them were placed in that position because they had elite level passing ability, something Wright doesn't have and something the Heat don't need.

 

It's always a great idea in theory, but it just doesn't translate on the court. And on a team that only needs 3pt shooting and defensive ability against PG's, the versatility and potential of Wright is minimized even more.

 

IMO they need a proven sharp-shooter at PG that has some experience playing the position on both ends of the floor. Wright could maybe play spot minutes off the bench at PG, but having Wright at PG in the post-season is a scary thought.