Its a dynasty

[YugoRocketsFan]

It is what it is, you can deny it all you want, you can say they have no good bench, a crappy PG or even a crappy Center, you can say they cant co-exist. But everyone knows they will win 5 rings in a row, next year I am 100% sure that the Heat are winning it all, this roster is much more than star studded but Wade and LeBron who are both top 3 players and Chris Bosh is a superstar, they will kill teams. If LeBron can take a team full of scrubs to the finals and win 60 games, this team will win a lot more.

 

So here is my prediction.

 

The Heat win at least 5 rings in a row, and break Jordan's Bulls 72-10 record.

Edited July 9, 2010 by YugoRocketsFan

[The Artesticle]

I don't know if they'll win 5 in a row, but it's possible.

 

Thankfully Lakers already won 2

[Cobb]

It'd be cool to see it happen but as a fan of the Hawks it wouldn't be fun to watch.

[YugoRocketsFan]

Of course it wont be fun to watch, as a Rockets fan, winning the ECF (small chance but w/e) is like winning a ring for me.

[Cobb]

Of course it wont be fun to watch, as a Rockets fan, winning the ECF (small chance but w/e) is like winning a ring for me.

It's even worse when this "dynasty" is in the same conference as your favorite team.

[Nitro]

I agree that it's a dynasty. Even if the first year they don't win it, all these guys are smack dab in the middle of their prime years and the team will have some flexibility in the future with the MLE and such (assuming the new CBA allows it).

 

Very scary to think of how good this team can be.

[YugoRocketsFan]

I agree that it's a dynasty. Even if the first year they don't win it, all these guys are smack dab in the middle of their prime years and the team will have some flexibility in the future with the MLE and such (assuming the new CBA allows it).

 

Very scary to think of how good this team can be.

 

Yep, its amazing to see how many people are trying to find weaknesses, like they wont coexist, they have no center,etc. That is obvious denial, this team WILL win a ring next year.

Edited July 9, 2010 by YugoRocketsFan

[Warren2ThaG]

u have to win the first one though and thats not guaranteed

[Real Deal]

Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, Rajon Rondo.

 

Four all-star caliber players, with at least three excellent role players (Perkins, Sheed, Davis) and a defensive specialist (Tony Allen) and a spark off the bench (Nate) with a former player and champion head coach (Rivers)...and they still didn't get the job done after being together and developing chemistry for three years.

 

In 2008, they had built a team that was geared to stopping the superstar...with Garnett, Posey, Perkins, Rondo and Brown all defensive artists...yet they had a lot of trouble in the first and second rounds (against the Hawks and Cavs), going seven with each.

 

They may march through the East, but if Bynum is healthy, the Heat better hope for home court and some good role players. Kobe, Gasol, Artest, Bynum, Odom, Blake, Fisher and Phil will be a monster to beat.

[kingfish]

Can I bring a certain team into this thread? Oh what the heck, ill resist just so I dont get flamed.

 

 

The Heat will be runner up champions. Sorry.

[YugoRocketsFan]

Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, Rajon Rondo.

 

Four all-star caliber players, with at least three excellent role players (Perkins, Sheed, Davis) and a defensive specialist (Tony Allen) and a spark off the bench (Nate) with a former player and champion head coach (Rivers)...and they still didn't get the job done after being together and developing chemistry for three years.

 

In 2008, they had built a team that was geared to stopping the superstar...with Garnett, Posey, Perkins, Rondo and Brown all defensive artists...yet they had a lot of trouble in the first and second rounds (against the Hawks and Cavs), going seven with each.

 

They may march through the East, but if Bynum is healthy, the Heat better hope for home court and some good role players. Kobe, Gasol, Artest, Bynum, Odom, Blake, Fisher and Phil will be a monster to beat.

 

Looks great but this is entirely different. The Celtics were aging, and they had weaknesses. This Miami team with Wade, LeBron and Bosh will have no weaknesses, they will be impossible to defend. The Lakers are the only thing that can stop these guys but it just wont happen, too good.

[Check my Stats]

Meh I find it hard to reserve the title for them next year let alone the next 5 years... Bosh still has a lot to prove and has never played in a big game in his entire career, not even in college or high school. On paper this is probably the best big 3 we'll see, but if one of them gets hurt, [expletive] will hit the fan... they still need some jump shooters, they need to do something with Beasley, they need some solid role players.

 

Offensively there isn't really any issues with this team, it is the other side of the ball I have concerns for them.

[YugoRocketsFan]

Can I bring a certain team into this thread? Oh what the heck, ill resist just so I dont get flamed.

 

 

The Heat will be runner up champions. Sorry.

 

Believe what you like, but your prediction will be wrong, i'll bet 300$ if you are confident enough.

[Nitro]

Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, Rajon Rondo.

 

Four all-star caliber players, with at least three excellent role players (Perkins, Sheed, Davis) and a defensive specialist (Tony Allen) and a spark off the bench (Nate) with a former player and champion head coach (Rivers)...and they still didn't get the job done after being together and developing chemistry for three years.

 

In 2008, they had built a team that was geared to stopping the superstar...with Garnett, Posey, Perkins, Rondo and Brown all defensive artists...yet they had a lot of trouble in the first and second rounds (against the Hawks and Cavs), going seven with each.

 

They may march through the East, but if Bynum is healthy, the Heat better hope for home court and some good role players. Kobe, Gasol, Artest, Bynum, Odom, Blake, Fisher and Phil will be a monster to beat.

 

I agree with your points to a degree...but realize that we're talking about arguably the 2 best players in the league in the middle of their absolute PRIME years, and another 26 year old all-star...it's just on another level from the 2008 Celtics.

 

I can't stress this enough- LEBRON IS 25, BOSH IS 26, WADE IS 28.

[YugoRocketsFan]

Meh I find it hard to reserve the title for them next year let alone the next 5 years... Bosh still has a lot to prove and has never played in a big game in his entire career, not even in college or high school. On paper this is probably the best big 3 we'll see, but if one of them gets hurt, [expletive] will hit the fan... they still need some jump shooters, they need to do something with Beasley, they need some solid role players.

 

Offensively there isn't really any issues with this team, it is the other side of the ball I have concerns for them.

 

One of them gets hurt? If one of them is hurt they still have Bosh and Wade, LeBron and Bosh or Wade and LeBron. This team is a dynasty, unless 2 of them are injured for long periods of time but given the history, it just wont happen.

[Paul]

It's even worse when this "dynasty" is in the same conference as your favorite team.

this.

[Poe]

Riley fulfilled his promise.

 

 

In Riley We Trust!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SRV]

It's even worse when this "dynasty" is in the same conference as your favorite team.

We are in your division too, so you play us 4 times a year lol

[Real Deal]

I agree with your points to a degree...but realize that we're talking about arguably the 2 best players in the league in the middle of their absolute PRIME years, and another 26 year old all-star...it's just on another level from the 2008 Celtics.

 

I can't stress this enough- LEBRON IS 25, BOSH IS 26, WADE IS 28.

No denying that they will be good, I just don't think they'll have the defense at the end of the season...both because of lack of defensive talent AND the fatigue.

 

Keep in mind...Boston's defense was among the best in the last two decades. Same could be said of the 2004 Pistons. Those are the two teams that toppled Kobe Bryant. In 20-30 years, I have yet to see an offensively-injected team win a championship without playing defense...with the exception of the 2000-01 Lakers.

 

In other words, the James/Wade/Bosh trio better play as good as the 2001 Kobe and Shaq duo, with the role players to cover for what those Lakers had, if they want to win it all.

 

I don't think anyone is touching a healthy Lakers team out West. Can a well-built team out East knock off Miami? Probably not, unless the Celtics or Magic find a way to turn LeBron or Wade into a selfish, struggling, self-destructive juggernaut...because if that happens, or one of them suffers an injury, their season is done.

[EastCoastNiner]

IFFF they make the Finals and the Lakers are there, I really think the Lakers have the slight edge. and that mainly comes from rebounding, and banking on Andrew Bynum playing well.

 

If Andrew Bynum is healthy, and the Lakers make the finals along with the Heat, I think the Lakers will win.

[YugoRocketsFan]

No denying that they will be good, I just don't think they'll have the defense at the end of the season...both because of lack of defensive talent AND the fatigue.

 

Keep in mind...Boston's defense was among the best in the last two decades. Same could be said of the 2004 Pistons. Those are the two teams that toppled Kobe Bryant. In 20-30 years, I have yet to see an offensively-injected team win a championship without playing defense...with the exception of the 2000-01 Lakers.

 

In other words, the James/Wade/Bosh trio better play as good as the 2001 Kobe and Shaq duo, with the role players to cover for what those Lakers had, if they want to win it all.

 

I don't think anyone is touching a healthy Lakers team out West. Can a well-built team out East knock off Miami? Probably not, unless the Celtics or Magic find a way to turn LeBron or Wade into a selfish, struggling, self-destructive juggernaut...because if that happens, or one of them suffers an injury, their season is done.

 

TBH, I wouldnt even focus on defense. A team this talented doesnt even need defense, they can just win by being better than everybody. With how well LeBron, Wade and Bosh rebound, when big teams face them they wont have too big of a problem.

[Real Deal]

With how well LeBron, Wade and Bosh rebound, when big teams face them they wont have too big of a problem.

Rondo, Pierce, Garnett, Perkins, Sheed, Davis...all guys that can grab boards.

 

Just discussing how well players crash the glass...it's irrelevant. There isn't going to be a single player on the Heat that can contain Drew or Gasol. Not Bosh, and not Shaq...and that's a massive problem right now.

 

Thing is, while I don't think Ron can stop LeBron, I do believe Kobe has his number...he proved it twice the last two games he defended him...and if not James, it'll be Wade that Kobe is assigned to, and I doubt Wade goes off on him.

 

It's a super trio. It's not going to be a super team. The Kobe/Shaq duo was a super duo...not part of a super team. Don't mean to make it sound so Kindergarten-ish, but basically, that's what you're looking at.

 

And at the end of the day, I trust in the super team more than anything else, especially when it contains the greatest coach in NBA history, arguably the best overall player in the history of the game, and a top three power forward in the league. If Drew is healthy, he's arguably the second best center in the NBA (not sure if Yao will ever play as good as he did a few years ago, sadly, but I HOPE he does).

 

Everyone was convinced LA was going to lose against the Celtics. In fact, a lot of people here were convinced that the Magic would end up taking the Lakers to seven games, if not beating them, two seasons ago. They set themselves up for disappointment.

 

Maybe I'm not as worried as some Lakers fans, because I know, deep down, some are. I'm honestly not. I would be more concerned about a Heat or Knicks team that had two superstars and very, very good free agent pick-ups (multiple signings), and a solid trade to bring in a couple of defensive-minded guards and forwards. A team built to defeat us, like the 2008 Celtics and the 2004 Pistons.

 

I just can't say I'm too worried tonight. I'll reserve my concerns once we make our way into the playoffs.

[Nitro]

No denying that they will be good, I just don't think they'll have the defense at the end of the season...both because of lack of defensive talent AND the fatigue.

 

Keep in mind...Boston's defense was among the best in the last two decades. Same could be said of the 2004 Pistons. Those are the two teams that toppled Kobe Bryant. In 20-30 years, I have yet to see an offensively-injected team win a championship without playing defense...with the exception of the 2000-01 Lakers.

 

In other words, the James/Wade/Bosh trio better play as good as the 2001 Kobe and Shaq duo, with the role players to cover for what those Lakers had, if they want to win it all.

 

Defense is important, but if the Lakers could win in 2009 with not a ton of defensive talent, so can the Heat. I mean, it's not like Wade and LeBron are poor defensive players; they both made All-Defensive teams last year. Neither are necessarily lockdown defenders, but they are very good defenders. And even Bosh is underrated defensively, and I think the 2008 Olympics proved that.

 

As for the Celtics Big 3 comparison, they didn't have anywhere near the offensive firepower this trio has. And none of them were regarded as elite defenders before they joined forces. Spoelsta is a disciple of Riley, and even last year's Heat team was one of the best defensive/rebounding teams in the league. With each of the star's having each other as help, their defense will be greatly improved.

 

And fatigue? With all the heavy lifting they've had to do in their careers, a ton of that pressure will be alleviated by playing with each other.

[Real Deal]

Spoelsta is a disciple of Riley

And Mike Brown is a disciple of Gregg Pop. That doesn't mean much to me.

 

As for the Celtics Big 3 comparison, they didn't have anywhere near the offensive firepower this trio has. And none of them were regarded as elite defenders before they joined forces

Pierce and Allen were averaging 25-26 PPG before they played together. Garnett was at 24 PPG just a few seasons before the trade.

 

And Garnett was considered an elite defensive player. He was All-Defensive 1st Team six times, 2nd Team twice, before coming to Boston.

[YugoRocketsFan]

And Mike Brown is a disciple of Gregg Pop. That doesn't mean much to me.

 

 

Pierce and Allen were averaging 25-26 PPG before they played together. Garnett was at 24 PPG just a few seasons before the trade.

 

And Garnett was considered an elite defensive player. He was All-Defensive 1st Team six times, 2nd Team twice, before coming to Boston.

 

Much different players. When they all joined they were late in their careers, Wade, LeBron and Bosh are all in their prime.