kingfish Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Im excited. Were already back to back champions. We have had a lot of fun, have had a couple parades, celebrated, and partied like maniacs. Theres already a super team, their called the Los Angeles Lakers If they stay healthy this season, nobody will stop them. http://lakers.topbuzz.com/gallery/d/280215-2/Laker+teammates+hold+up+their+index+finger+as+they+pose+together+during+the+2010+NBA+championship+trophy+presentation.JPG Bring it on, Miami. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flight Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 I've put a little thought into this. Does Artest guard LeBron? Or Kobe? Cause then Wade's got either Artest, who's too slow on him, or what, Fisher? And what about Bosh? Pau's a big body but not the greatest defender. If Miami signs solid players to fill out their roster, I think you better be scared. I'm glad to see a Lakers fan excited that it might not be a walk in the park anymore, but it's going to take a lot. Even if LA stays healthy, it's not a done deal. Miami could, and probably will stop them if they both are healthy and Miami has a full roster of real players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfish Posted July 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 (edited) I've put a little thought into this. Does Artest guard LeBron? Or Kobe? Cause then Wade's got either Artest, who's too slow on him, or what, Fisher? And what about Bosh? Pau's a big body but not the greatest defender. If Miami signs solid players to fill out their roster, I think you better be scared. I'm glad to see a Lakers fan excited that it might not be a walk in the park anymore, but it's going to take a lot. Even if LA stays healthy, it's not a done deal. Miami could, and probably will stop them if they both are healthy and Miami has a full roster of real players.Artest guards Lebron. Kobe guards Wade. We definitely need another defensive stopper though, im thinking Bell. Ebanks can probably be called up to handle Lebron, his defense is very good and Artest and Kobe can probably teach him a few things as well. Im not going to be scared. Its a no lose situation. We have a chance to knock off this team of overhyped superstars. If we lose, we lose to a team that built itself in free agency, no shame in that. Theres a chance for Phil to go out in a big way, and Kobe to get his 6th and put him into a category nobodys ever been in. Edited July 9, 2010 by kingfish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GamerGuy Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 I'm glad to see a Lakers fan excited that it might not be a walk in the park anymore, but it's going to take a lot. Even if LA stays healthy, it's not a done deal.I wouldn't call a seven game series against the Celtics a walk in the park exactly, lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobb Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Don't be because Phil likes things in three's right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flight Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Artest guards Lebron. Kobe guards Wade. We definitely need another defensive stopper though, im thinking Bell. Ebanks can probably be called up to handle Lebron, his defense is very good and Artest and Kobe can probably teach him a few things as well. Im not going to be scared. Its a no lose situation. We have a chance to knock off this team of overhyped superstars. If we lose, we lose to a team that built itself in free agency, no shame in that. Theres a chance for Phil to go out in a big way, and Kobe to get his 6th and put him into a category nobodys ever been in.What? Jordan? Russell? What are we talking about here? And I do agree with the FA thing, I hate teams that build off of other teams' development and flat out money. I forgot about Ebanks, his defense will be huge I think. And GG, I know but the "If we stay healthy it's over" thing tells me Lakers fans feel a little too invincible after winning 2 championships. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taber Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Theres a chance for Phil to go out in a big way, and Kobe to get his 6th and put him into a category nobodys ever been in.Hmm I always thought there was some guys with 6 rings, I can't think of their names can you help me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfish Posted July 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Hmm I always thought there was some guys with 6 rings, I can't think of their names can you help me?He never beat a team as hyped as this one, thats what I meant haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multi-Billionaire Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 If Derek Fisher signs with Heat, you better give the superteam title to the Heat Without Fisher, this LA team is not so super. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted July 10, 2010 Owner Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 If Derek Fisher signs with Heat, you better give the superteam title to the Heat Without Fisher, this LA team is not so super.Haha, without Fisher, this team is much better defensively, and probably hits more shots, not requiring a Fisher game-winner in the first place. Under 40% from the floor, pathetic defense most of the time, no passing ability...yeah, he's just a massive piece we can't win without. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfish Posted July 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 (edited) Haha, without Fisher, this team is much better defensively, and probably hits more shots, not requiring a Fisher game-winner in the first place. Under 40% from the floor, pathetic defense most of the time, no passing ability...yeah, he's just a massive piece we can't win without.Dude could you imagine the Heat with Fish? They would prob get destroyed by opposing PGs. Yeah the dude can shoot, but hes wildly inconsistent (didnt make a 3 in the Finals until game 7). His D is terrible, almost any point guard in the league can light him up. For years the Lakers have compensated for his shortcomings, although he did provide great leadership which we no longer need. Rondo and Jameer would toy with him if he go to the Heat, then Blake would roast him if the Heat made the Finals. Thats just a huge liability for the Heat to have imo. Edited July 10, 2010 by kingfish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YugoRocketsFan Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 Dude could you imagine the Heat with Fish? They would prob get destroyed by opposing PGs. Yeah the dude can shoot, but hes wildly inconsistent (didnt make a 3 in the Finals until game 7). His D is terrible, almost any point guard in the league can light him up. For years the Lakers have compensated for his shortcomings, although he did provide great leadership which we no longer need. Rondo and Jameer would toy with him if he go to the Heat, then Blake would roast him if the Heat made the Finals. Thats just a huge liability for the Heat to have imo. The Heat will just stick LeBron on the PG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multi-Billionaire Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 (edited) Haha, without Fisher, this team is much better defensively, and probably hits more shots, not requiring a Fisher game-winner in the first place. Under 40% from the floor, pathetic defense most of the time, no passing ability...yeah, he's just a massive piece we can't win without. Dude could you imagine the Heat with Fish? They would prob get destroyed by opposing PGs. Yeah the dude can shoot, but hes wildly inconsistent (didnt make a 3 in the Finals until game 7). His D is terrible, almost any point guard in the league can light him up. For years the Lakers have compensated for his shortcomings, although he did provide great leadership which we no longer need. Rondo and Jameer would toy with him if he go to the Heat, then Blake would roast him if the Heat made the Finals. Thats just a huge liability for the Heat to have imo. Are you guys serious?? He has regressed defensively compared to his younger days when Shaq was still a Laker... but you can't question his toughness once the playoffs roll. His defensive intensity goes up a notch when it's playoffs... and I know there's Ron but teams think twice when they tried to punk/ push around the Lakers... because Fish is probably the most physical player in the playoffs. The barrel charge to Scola 2 years ago, the scuffle with Ray... the Lakers fed off his physicality and aggresiveness. If he's gone, who you think will give the Lakers this toughness? Jordan Farmar/ Sasha Vujajic LOL... Shannon Brown is muscular but he doesn't have a tough guy attitude or gets under anyone's skin. Ron Artest has reformed... and he doesn't know how to get under someone's skin without going over the line. There's always risk with this guy, like suspension for the rest of the season. Fish hit a game tying three against Magic two years ago... without that, the series might have gone 7... and like the Celtics series some of Laker fans might have pissed their pants. He was scoring and making plays in Game 4 (?) of this year's Finals... when everyone on the Lakers struggled. Not important? You continued to think it's all about Kobe, Gasol, but never give the role players their due... it's unbelievable. Fish should read this thread and other threads about him made by Laker fans and he'll leave for Heat... because it's obvious Laker fans underappreciate him. In fact, if Kobe reads this he will be disappointed Laker fans are so short-sighted He will disagree. Edited July 10, 2010 by Snake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted July 11, 2010 Owner Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 ...he's not a good defensive player. I don't care if he shoulder-blocks Scola once again, and puts him in a powerbomb. That doesn't make him a good defender. Where will we get the toughness at the point? We signed Steve Blake. He's one of the toughest point guards in the league, five times the defender Fisher is. We lose Fisher, we lose a bit of leadership...and, well, his big shot every year. We wouldn't need those big shots, though, if he didn't give up 30 points in the 30 minutes he plays. You say this, but in another topic, you talk about Billups coming off the bench next season. And we do give our role players credit. Ron Artest was the best player in Game 7. He was pivotal throughout the playoffs. Odom is one of the best rebounders in the NBA, skill-wise, when he's actually got his head in the game. Fisher plays well for 1-2 minutes, but at the end of games. You're just finding anything you can to stab at, just like you did when you predicted the Lakers would lose in five. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xx. Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 Losing Fisher would be so crucial man. The guy was so loyal to his team and despite not showing good performances in the game, he is always clutch. I know it and Laker fans know it how big Fisher is in the playoffs, hes a guy on the team you need even if he will come off the bench but hes just a solid leader to have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted July 11, 2010 Owner Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 Losing Fisher would be so crucial man. The guy was so loyal to his team and despite not showing good performances in the game, he is always clutch. I know it and Laker fans know it how big Fisher is in the playoffs, hes a guy on the team you need even if he will come off the bench but hes just a solid leader to have.I won't deny that he's a good leader. Again, that's crucial. Kobe stated that Fisher is the only teammate he will actually listen to. But, if we do happen to lose him (which won't happen unless he retires), we aren't going down the drain. We will be better on the defensive end, our bigs won't be in so much foul trouble (looking at Bynum here), and Kobe won't have to continue switching over to defend guys like Westbrook and Rondo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChosenOne Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 I won't deny that he's a good leader. Again, that's crucial. Kobe stated that Fisher is the only teammate he will actually listen to. But, if we do happen to lose him (which won't happen unless he retires), we aren't going down the drain. We will be better on the defensive end, our bigs won't be in so much foul trouble (looking at Bynum here), and Kobe won't have to continue switching over to defend guys like Westbrook and Rondo. That is all true but honetly I think when Kobe does have to switch it actually helps the Lakers more than they think. Having Kobe running/roaming around because of both Westbrook and Rondo not being able to shoot makes him a bigger pest on the defensive end on the court. Also with the Fish being abing to run around like a machine after Ray all game, saves alot of energey in Kobes legs which can be used in the 4th. Losing Fisher would be a great loss by leadership and by losing a big time shooter. But it would be fun seeing him gone because it would open up room for another vetran to pick up on leadership like Gasol maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Penny Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 I've put a little thought into this. Does Artest guard LeBron? Or Kobe? Cause then Wade's got either Artest, who's too slow on him, or what, Fisher? And what about Bosh? Pau's a big body but not the greatest defender. If Miami signs solid players to fill out their roster, I think you better be scared. I'm glad to see a Lakers fan excited that it might not be a walk in the park anymore, but it's going to take a lot. Even if LA stays healthy, it's not a done deal. Miami could, and probably will stop them if they both are healthy and Miami has a full roster of real players.Kobe will guard Wade, Ron will guard Bron, and Pau's a better defender than you're giving him credit for tbh, and he will do a much better job stopping Bosh than Bosh will do guarding him. then Miami have Zydrunas Ilgauskas guarding Andrew Bynum... Drew will love that matchup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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