Nitro Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 I have records going back to the 1991-92 season of every Bucks game (except 2 I cant find boxscores from) played with the final score, free throws, fouls called ect. I have records of who reffed each game as well. Since all this broke on Bavetta, and since Ive always thought he was the main game fixer in the NBA, I took a look at his records and stats when he reffed Bucks games. Some of it is interesting. Record by year (Playoffs included): 91-92: 1-592-93: 3-293-94: 1-594-95: 3-395-96: 1-296-97: 0-297-98: 2-198-99: 1-299-00: 3-600-01: 0-701-02: 1-502-03: 3-203-04: 1-504-05: 1-505-06: 0-106-07: 2-207-08: 1-1 Overall: 24-56Playoffs: 1-5 Notice how Bavetta's "worst" year was also the Bucks best percentage wise. The Bucks had a 16 game losing streak in games reffed by Bavetta. This happened from 2000-2002 (playoffs included). Keep in mind what the Bucks record was during that time (especially in 2000-01). Its not like that was a 16 game losing streak when the Bucks were horrible. The Bucks are 31-48-1 against the spread in games reffed by Bavetta. The Bucks are 13-20 Straight Up when they are favored in a Bavetta reffed game. 12-29 Overall on the road12-27 Overall at home. I wanted to know what the Bucks record was when they were the better team (record wise). The records I used for this research were the records for both teams at the end of the regular season. So if the Bucks finish 42-40 and played an opponent that was 39-43 at the end of the year...the Bucks were the "better team" even though its possible the other team had the better record at the time the game was played. The Bucks are 11-19 when they are the "better team" The Bucks are 4-8 when they are the "better team" and at home. The Bucks are 9-27 when they are .500 or better at the end of that season. The Bucks are 14-18 when their opponent is below .500 at the end of the season. The Bucks are 10-38 when the opponent is .500 or better at the end of the year. The Bucks are 11-26 in games decided by 6 or less The Bucks are 6-13 in games decided by 7-10 The Bucks are 4-4 in games decided by 20+ In the 80 games the Bucks were outscored by 307 total points (3.84 per game). The Opponents shot 319 (3.99 per game) more free throws than the Bucks in those same 80 games. 48 times the opponent shot more free throws than the Bucks23 times the Bucks shot more free throws than the opponent.9 times it was equal. 24 times the opponent shot 10+ more free throws than the Bucks8 times the Bucks shot 10+ more free throws than the opp. 21 times the opponent shot 60%+ of the total free throws shot in the game.6 times the Bucks shot 60%+ of the total free throws in the game. I also looked at games where the free throw differantial was greater than or equal to the point differential in the game. So if the Bucks shot 15 fewer free throws in a game and lost by 10 then it would qualify. I call these "fishy" games. Another rule is that the free throw differential must be 10 or more. So if the Bucks lose by 1 and the opponent shoots 1 more free throw...this doesnt count as a fishy game. They would have had to at least been outshot by 10 at the line for that to count. There were a total of 20 "fishy" games. 16 were in favor of the opponent. 4 in favor of the Bucks. The 3 refs in the infamous Sac-LAL game were Bavetta, Ted Bernhardt and Bob Delaney. Two of these guys were called "company men" by Donaghy...always doing things in the NBA's interest. It was obvious that it was in the NBAs interest to have the Lakers advance and send the Kings home. Was it in the NBA's interest to keep the Bucks out of the 2001 Finals and have the 76ers in it? The key game in that series was game 4. The Bucks were up 2-1 at home and a 3-1 lead would have been very commanding. Dick Bavetta and Ted Bernhardt also reffed that game. Philadelphia shot twice as many free throws as the Bucks in that game. Im just saying... So to recap... 16 game losing streak when Bavetta refs (just happens to be during the best few years in this 17 year study. Bucks win 30% of the games Bavetta refs. Bucks shoot more free throws only 28.8% of the time Bucks only win 37% of the time when they are the "better" team. Bucks only win 30.7% of the time AT HOME. Bucks are 9-27 .250 when they are .500 or better at the end of that season. In games where one team shoots 10+ more free throws, it is the Bucks opponent that shoots those extra ones 75% of the time. When there is a "fishy" game (as described above) it is the opponent who is the benefit 80% of the time. When one team shoots 60% or more of the total free throws it it the opponent that benefits 78% of the time. Im not saying the word "fix", but perhaps theres too many people that have blinders on that need to take them off. Any feedback? Any other refs I should research? LINK Got this from RealGM. Really crazy stats that go back nearly 2 decades. Definitely some ammo for the conspiracy buffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfish Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 So hes just hatin on the Bucks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JYD Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 I read most of it. I can't tie anything into game fixing. I think it's the overall [expletive]ty play from the Bucks franchise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemon Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 lol! but dick bavetta's stats for the whole league should be included as well to show a good comparison. Maybe he just doesn't like deer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemon Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 (edited) OK... In this post ill list the active refs records from 91-92, but only those which have reffed a minimum of 50 games in that span. Playoffs count. Sorted from worst PCT to best PCT. ACTIVE REFS (MINIMUM 50 GAMES) DICK BAVETTA 24-56 .300SCOTT WALL 19-36 .345LUIS GRILLO 25-45 .357TOMMY NUNEZ 24-42 .364TOM WASHINGTON 22-37 .373DAVID JONES 28-47 .373BILL SPOONER 25-40 .385DERRICK STAFFORD 32-51 .386MICHAEL SMITH 25-38 .397JACK NIES 31-47 .397JOE FORTE 31-47 .397TONY BROTHERS 25-37 .403GREG WILLARD 33-46 .418JOE DEROSA 31-43 .419BENNETT SALVATORE 31-43 .419KEN MAUER 34-46 .425JOE CRAWFORD 34-45 .430DAN CRAWFORD 41-53 .436RON GARRETSON 36-46 .439STEVE JAVIE 36-44 .450ED F RUSH 40-48 .455BENNIE ADAMS 25-30 .455JIM CLARK 36-43 .456MONTY MCCUTCHEN 30-35 .462DEREK RICHARDSON 24-28 .462SEAN CORBIN 28-32 .467BOB DELANEY 38-42 .475MIKE CALLAHAN 32-35 .478MARK WUNDERLICH 39-38 .506JAMES CAPERS 31-29 .517JESS KERSEY 39-33 .542RON OLESIAK 39-32 .549SCOTT FOSTER 34-24 .586 Also from that thread. from 92-23 season win percentage. There's more seasons in the thread. EDIT: I was a little mislead at first, but it looks like Bavetta is constantly showing the worst record when reffing the Bucks compared to other refs. Edited August 13, 2010 by Lemon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted August 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 Yeah, he was screwing them over even when they were a GREAT team (one game away from the Finals in 2001). That's the point...read the entire post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Blasco Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 I don't think it's a conspiracy, I think it's personal bias incorporated into one of the worst refs of all-time. Bavetta's an [expletive]. BTW, here's the litmus test for refs. Find Steve Javie and use him as a constant. If a ref is deviating that far away from Javie, something is definitely up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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