Cleveland's Finest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 (edited) Good teams are 14-15 against winning teams....good's not gonna cut it if you wanna be elite and win a title. not one, not two, not three. And the Knicks just beat you and were more clutch on your own court, how are they not better? Edited February 28, 2011 by Cleveland's Finest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChosenOne Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 As honest and non homerish as I can be, the Knicks are not better than us. They are hovering above 500. If they were that good, they would be at the top of the standings with us. Yeah since they have had Melo all year right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest N/A Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 As honest and non homerish as I can be, the Knicks are not better than us. They are hovering above 500. If they were that good, they would be at the top of the standings with us. They are 2-1 with Melo, that's .667 if you're scoring at home... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRV Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Congrats to them. You can't honestly tell me that Amare and Melo together for 3 games and beating us will automatically make them better than us? They lost to the Cavs, so by your logic, the Cavs are a better team. I expect it though, your hatred for the Heat is obvious so I will just leave it here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleveland's Finest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 New players, same stuff. Did you want Lebron and Wade slap Melo in the face before the game? Is it really that hard to restrain yourself from hugging the opposing team's players? You think Alonzo Mourning likes seeing that, after going through all the physicality with the Knicks. You think Alonzo looks at that and thinks it's a cold-blooded rivalry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleveland's Finest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Congrats to them. You can't honestly tell me that Amare and Melo together for 3 games and beating us will automatically make them better than us? They lost to the Cavs, so by your logic, the Cavs are a better team. I expect it though, your hatred for the Heat is obvious so I will just leave it here. Tell me how the Heat are better than them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JYD Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 To anyone who thinks the KNICKS are BETTER than the HEAT don't know a GOD DAMN THING about BASKETBALL. /RANT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRV Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Tell me how the Heat are better than them?Tell me why you think they are better than us? They beat us? The Cavs beat the Knicks just a few nights ago. So that means the Cavs are a better team, nothing else in the season matters other than the most recent matchup, so thats why the Cavs are better than the Knicks, clearly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Regime Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 (edited) To anyone who thinks the KNICKS are BETTER than the HEAT don't know a GOD DAMN THING about BASKETBALL. /RANT Thank you. I was going to write up a long post, but something short and straight forward like that will get the job done. The Knicks made the most of their opportunities tonight, they capitalized off turnovers and were fortunate enough to have Wade in foul trouble. Miami just seemed like they didn't give a shit, they opened up two big leads, but let the Knicks climb back in. Just complacent basketball. Edited February 28, 2011 by Confidence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted February 28, 2011 Author Owner Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 A Heat/Knicks playoff series would be awesome. Right now, it's very possible...could happen in the first round. And the Heat are the better team right now. Who knows how much that will change after another month of Amare/Melo/Billups, but even with the loss, the Heat are a better team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clutch Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 too many 3's taken again by the heat - especially when they weren't falling...gotta make the adjustment and attack more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dash Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Wade needed more touches in crunch time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleveland's Finest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 (edited) Tell me why you think they are better than us? They beat us? The Cavs beat the Knicks just a few nights ago. So that means the Cavs are a better team, nothing else in the season matters other than the most recent matchup, so thats why the Cavs are better than the Knicks, clearly. That Cavs loss was a trap game. If there was a playoff series, I feel the Knicks could defeat the Heat in a series. The Knicks bench was much more productive. Shawne Williams and Bill Walker made big shots. Anthony Carter had a nice steal. On the other hand, Miami's bench was sloppy and the only role most of them have is to shoot threes. Also, Miami's use of its stars is puzzling to say the least. I haven't seen every Heat game, but to my knowledge Wade has not one GW attempt this year. Someone needs to get on these stars too, because they aren't playing focused the whole game, and I'd be upset if I were a Heat fan to see that. And finally, I believe the Knicks' star power is more complimentary. Chauncey took over that game. Amare blocked LeBron. Melo was guarding LBJ with a lot of pressure and physicality. So I think New York has a better bench and intangibles. As clutch as Wade is, you know what Chauncey will bring. And we know Melo is very clutch...that Denver/Cleveland game that went to OT last year was insane when he made all those shots at the end. Now, if Haslem played, maybe it'd be different. 'd have them on the same level about. Edited February 28, 2011 by Cleveland's Finest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JYD Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Miami just seemed like they didn't give a shit, they opened up two big leads, but let the Knicks climb back in. Just complacent basketball.I don't agree with that - The Heat just didn't make any shots down the stretch. They shot horribly in the 2nd half for the most part... Part of it had to do with the Knicks looking much better defensively, however, the Heat got their open looks - Knicks were lucky enough that the Heat missed most of their perimeter shots. And the Heat are way better than the Knicks still. I was PLEASANTLY surprised at how well the Knicks played as a unit - big shots/d-stops when they needed it, role players playing solid, smart minutes, etc. but to say the Knicks are better? C'mon now... Oh, and to Real Deal: I don't see the Heat-Knicks series happening. Would be a ton of fun for us fans here in NY but I don't see the Knicks dropping to 7th and I don't see the Heat going lower than the 2nd seed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted February 28, 2011 Author Owner Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 (edited) Oh, and to Real Deal: I don't see the Heat-Knicks series happening. Would be a ton of fun for us fans here in NY but I don't see the Knicks dropping to 7th and I don't see the Heat going lower than the 2nd seed.Chicago is tied with the Heat in the loss column right now, and the Heat's next 11 games are all against teams over .500, and a few very strong teams at that. If the Knicks don't catch Atlanta, and the Bulls maintain their play (and maybe even play better, now that Noah is back), the Cavs Heat could have the third seed, against the sixth-seeded Knicks. Edited February 28, 2011 by Real Deal Heat...my bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRV Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 That Cavs loss was a trap game. If there was a playoff series, I feel the Knicks could defeat the Heat in a series. The Knicks bench was much more productive. Shawne Williams and Bill Walker made big shots. Anthony Carter had a nice steal. On the other hand, Miami's bench was sloppy and the only role most of them have is to shoot threes. Also, Miami's use of its stars is puzzling to say the least. I haven't seen every Heat game, but to my knowledge Wade has not one GW attempt this year. Someone needs to get on these stars too, because they aren't playing focuses the whole game, and I'd be upset if I were a Heat fan to see that. And finally, I believe the Knick's star power is more complimentary. Chauncey took over that game. Amare blocked LeBron. Melo was guarding LBJ with a lot of pressure and physicality. So I think New York has a better bench and intangibles. As clutch as Wade is, you know what Chauncey will bring. And we know Melo is very clutch...that Denver/Cleveland game that went to OT last year was insane when he made all those shots at the end. Now, if Haslem played, maybe it'd be different. 'd have them on the same level about.Ok. There is still plenty of time for both teams to improve. If they were to have a playoff matchup, it would be two completely different teams. The Knicks will be better, and the Heat will have gotten their clutch situation solved. Its not so much who takes the shot, sometimes they just aren't meant to go in. We could have easily won this game if a few things went our way. House and Miller jacked up a bunch of threes and none of them seemed to go in, that won't happen every night. Sure we look lost on offense unless its fast break, but these next few games should really test our offense and hopefully we learn something and get better. Honestly, its a very scary matchup for us because the Knicks are pretty much a brand new team now, we have no idea how good they will end up. So its not really fair to judge the ability of both these teams based off this one game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JYD Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Chicago is tied with the Heat in the loss column right now, and the Heat's next 11 games are all against teams over .500, and a few very strong teams at that. If the Knicks don't catch Atlanta, and the Bulls maintain their play (and maybe even play better, now that Noah is back), the Cavs Heat could have the third seed, against the sixth-seeded Knicks.Wow, I'm an idiot. I didn't realize Chicago was that close. I knew they were close, didn't realize it was that tight. I wouldn't mind playing Miami (just because I hate them even though in 7 games I can't see us winning), or Chicago. If we have to play Orlando it's a 4 game sweep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleveland's Finest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 (edited) Ok. There is still plenty of time for both teams to improve. If they were to have a playoff matchup, it would be two completely different teams. The Knicks will be better, and the Heat will have gotten their clutch situation solved. Its not so much who takes the shot, sometimes they just aren't meant to go in. We could have easily won this game if a few things went our way. House and Miller jacked up a bunch of threes and none of them seemed to go in, that won't happen every night. Sure we look lost on offense unless its fast break, but these next few games should really test our offense and hopefully we learn something and get better. Honestly, its a very scary matchup for us because the Knicks are pretty much a brand new team now, we have no idea how good they will end up. So its not really fair to judge the ability of both these teams based off this one game. You say you could've win "if a few things" went your way....but this has been a trend all year. The Heat have lost so many close games, and that's not a good sign. Maybe they can turn it around and win close games, but the season's over half way done, and they are still struggling to win close games and big games. I guess I agree with the rest that you said. Both teams still have a lot of time to adjust. Edited February 28, 2011 by Cleveland's Finest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish7718 Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 I love how everyone knocked the Knicks D in the thread and then we win by 5 and hold one of the best O's to 86 #epicfail Knicks are going to get destroyed Sunday by Miami. Well, that's what happens when you gut your roster. #epicfailX2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Regime Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 I don't agree with that - The Heat just didn't make any shots down the stretch. They shot horribly in the 2nd half for the most part... Part of it had to do with the Knicks looking much better defensively, however, the Heat got their open looks - Knicks were lucky enough that the Heat missed most of their perimeter shots. And the Heat are way better than the Knicks still. I was PLEASANTLY surprised at how well the Knicks played as a unit - big shots/d-stops when they needed it, role players playing solid, smart minutes, etc. but to say the Knicks are better? C'mon now... Oh, and to Real Deal: I don't see the Heat-Knicks series happening. Would be a ton of fun for us fans here in NY but I don't see the Knicks dropping to 7th and I don't see the Heat going lower than the 2nd seed. From the Heat games that I've watched this season, the Heat always have a stretch were they play excellent defense and takes teams out of the game. I just didn't see that today. Defense as a whole was mediocre, and the Heat just played too lackadaisical especially to end the first half and midway through the fourth if I remember correctly. The Knicks played solid basketball, don't get me wrong. They made the big shots when they most needed them and their defense was surprisingly good in transition and in half court sets but I just felt that the Heat played without any urgency. The Knicks wanted it more and it showed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Regime Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 I love how everyone knocked the Knicks D in the thread and then we win by 5 and hold one of the best O's to 86 #epicfail #epicfailX2 Lol, it's one win don't get ahead of yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish7718 Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Knicks couldn't outrebound a WNBA team.Maybe the Heat should trade LeBron and Bosh for Sheryl Swoops and Candice Parker then... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish7718 Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Lol, it's one win don't get ahead of yourself.Lol I love how you say that, yet after just 1 lost last night everypone started trashing the Knicks hypocrite btw 2-2 V Miami this year, would be a fun playoff match Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Regime Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Lol I love how you say that, yet after just 1 lost last night everypone started trashing the Knicks hypocrite btw 2-2 V Miami this year, would be a fun playoff match So from now on we're going to pick on everyone who makes a wrong prediction? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish7718 Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 So from now on we're going to pick on everyone who makes a wrong prediction?I was just quoting silly quotes from the Cavs Knicks thread, because like you saying, talking a whole bunch after 1 game is pretty dumb eh? Instead of whining about it you can just enjoy a nice dish of crow and not make the mistake again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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