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I posted it in here because I figured we'd talk more about the ratings than the actual game (if that makes sense).

 

So here are the ratings, but only the starting five of each team. These below are in team order.

 

Mike Bibby (Atlanta Hawks) - 73

Joe Johnson (Atlanta Hawks) - 88

Marvin Williams (Atlanta Hawks) - 66

Josh Smith (Atlanta Hawks) - 83

Al Horford (Atlanta Hawks) - 78

Rajon Rondo (Boston Celtics) - 87

Ray Allen (Boston Celtics) - 79

Paul Pierce (Boston Celtics) - 83

Kevin Garnett (Boston Celtics) - 80

Kendrick Perkins (Boston Celtics) - 72

DJ Augustin (Charlotte Bobcats) - 69

Stephen Jackson (Charlotte Bobcats) - 84

Gerald Wallace (Charlotte Bobcats) - 84

Boris Diaw (Charlotte Bobcats) - 70

Erick Dampier (Charlotte Bobcats) - 60

Derrick Rose (Chicago Bulls) - 85

Ronnie Brewer (Chicago Bulls) - 69

Luol Deng (Chicago Bulls) - 77

Carlos Boozer (Chicago Bulls) - 85

Joakim Noah (Chicago Bulls) - 73

Mo Williams (Cleveland Cavaliers) - 76

Anthony Parker (Cleveland Cavaliers) - 70

Jamario Moon (Cleveland Cavaliers) - 65

Antawn Jamison (Cleveland Cavaliers) - 78

Anderson Varejao (Cleveland Cavaliers) - 68

Jason Kidd (Dallas Mavericks) - 83

Caron Butler (Dallas Mavericks) - 81

Shawn Marion (Dallas Mavericks) - 78

Dirk Nowitzki (Dallas Mavericks) - 83

Brendan Haywood (Dallas Mavericks) - 71

Chauncey Billups (Denver Nuggets) - 83

Arron Afflalo (Denver Nuggets) - 65

Carmelo Anthony (Denver Nuggets) - 93

Kenyon Martin (Denver Nuggets) - 77

Nene (Denver Nuggets) - 75

Rodney Stuckey (Detroit Pistons) - 74

Richard Hamilton (Detroit Pistons) - 77

Tayshaun Prince (Detroit Pistons) - 76

Jonas Jerebko (Detroit Pistons) - 66

Ben Wallace (Detroit Pistons) - 74

Stephen Curry (Golden State Warriors) - 80

Monta Ellis (Golden State Warriors) - 84

Dorell Wright (Golden State Warriors) - 64

David Lee (Golden State Warriors) - 83

Andris Biedrins (Golden State Warriors) - 69

Aaron Brooks (Houston Rockets) - 80

Kevin Martin (Houston Rockets) - 80

Shane Battier (Houston Rockets) - 76

Luis Scola (Houston Rockets) - 78

Yao Ming (Houston Rockets) - 83

Darren Collison (Indiana Pacers) - 80

Brandon Rush (Indiana Pacers) - 65

Danny Granger (Indiana Pacers) - 83

Josh McRoberts (Indiana Pacers) - 54

Roy Hibbert (Indiana Pacers) - 71

Baron Davis (Los Angeles Clippers) - 79

Eric Gordon (Los Angeles Clippers) - 74

Rasual Butler (Los Angeles Clippers) - 61

Blake Griffin (Los Angeles Clippers) - 76

Chris Kaman (Los Angeles Clippers) - 78

Derek Fisher (Los Angeles Lakers) - 69

Kobe Bryant (Los Angeles Lakers) - 97

Ron Artest (Los Angeles Lakers) - 79

Pau Gasol (Los Angeles Lakers) - 89

Andrew Bynum (Los Angeles Lakers) - 77

Mike Conley (Memphis Grizzlies) - 73

OJ Mayo (Memphis Grizzlies) - 80

Rudy Gay (Memphis Grizzlies) - 81

Zach Randolph (Memphis Grizzlies) - 80

Marc Gasol (Memphis Grizzlies) - 77

Dwyane Wade (Miami Heat) - 97

Mike Miller (Miami Heat) - 72

LeBron James (Miami Heat) - 97

Chris Bosh (Miami Heat) - 87

Joel Anthony (Miami Heat) - 58

Brandon Jennings (Milwaukee Bucks) - 75

John Salmons (Milwaukee Bucks) - 74

Corey Maggette (Milwaukee Bucks) - 78

Luc Mbah a Moute (Milwaukee Bucks) - 71

Andrew Bogut (Milwaukee Bucks) - 82

Jonny Flynn (Minnesota Timberwolves) - 74

Corey Brewer (Minnesota Timberwolves) - 70

Wesley Johnson (Minnesota Timberwolves) - 73

Kevin Love (Minnesota Timberwolves) - 74

Darko Milicic (Minnesota Timberwolves) - 57

Devin Harris (New Jersey Nets) - 78

Anthony Morrow (New Jersey Nets) - 65

Travis Outlaw (New Jersey Nets) - 69

Troy Murphy (New Jersey Nets) - 72

Brook Lopez (New Jersey Nets) - 81

Chris Paul (New Orleans Hornets) - 95

Marcus Thornton (New Orleans Hornets) - 69

Trevor Ariza (New Orleans Hornets) - 79

David West (New Orleans Hornets) - 75

Emeka Okafor (New Orleans Hornets) - 77

Raymond Felton (New York Knicks) - 73

Wilson Chandler (New York Knicks) - 74

Danilo Gallinari (New York Knicks) - 72

Anthony Randolph (New York Knicks) - 70

Amare Stoudemire (New York Knicks) - 86

Russell Westbrook (Oklahoma City Thunder) - 83

Thabo Sefolosha (Oklahoma City Thunder) - 66

Kevin Durant (Oklahoma City Thunder) - 91

Jeff Green (Oklahoma City Thunder) - 77

Nenad Krstic (Oklahoma City Thunder) - 59

Jameer Nelson (Orlando Magic) - 75

Vince Carter (Orlando Magic) - 81

Mickael Pietrus (Orlando Magic) - 72

Rashard Lewis (Orlando Magic) - 76

Dwight Howard (Orlando Magic) - 88

Jrue Holiday (Philadephia 76ers) - 70

Evan Turner (Philadephia 76ers) - 76

Andre Iguodala (Philadephia 76ers) - 85

Elton Brand (Philadephia 76ers) - 73

Spencer Hawes (Philadephia 76ers) - 66

Steve Nash (Phoenix Suns) - 85

Jason Richardson (Phoenix Suns) - 73

Hedo Turkoglu (Phoenix Suns) - 73

Hakim Warrick (Phoenix Suns) - 64

Robin Lopez (Phoenix Suns) - 64

Andre Miller (Portland Trail Blazers) - 76

Brandon Roy (Portland Trail Blazers) - 88

Nicolas Batum (Portland Trail Blazers) - 69

LaMarcus Aldridge (Portland Trail Blazers) - 77

Greg Oden (Portland Trail Blazers) - 75

Beno Udrih (Sacramento Kings) - 66

Tyreke Evans (Sacramento Kings) - 82

Omri Casspi (Sacramento Kings) - 66

Carl Landry (Sacramento Kings) - 75

Samuel Dalembert (Sacramento Kings) - 70

Tony Parker (San Antonio Spurs) - 78

George Hill (San Antonio Spurs) - 76

Richard Jefferson (San Antonio Spurs) - 74

Tim Duncan (San Antonio Spurs) - 90

Antonio McDyess (San Antonio Spurs) - 68

Jose Calderon (Toronto Raptors) - 72

Leandro Barbosa (Toronto Raptors) - 75

Linas Kleiza (Toronto Raptors) - 55

Amir Johnson (Toronto Raptors) - 63

Andrea Bargnani (Toronto Raptors) - 74

Deron Williams (Utah Jazz) - 92

Raja Bell (Utah Jazz) - 70

Andrei Kirilenko (Utah Jazz) - 74

Paul Millsap (Utah Jazz) - 74

Al Jefferson (Utah Jazz) - 80

John Wall (Washington Wizards) - 81

Gilbert Arenas (Washington Wizards) - 83

Josh Howard (Washington Wizards) - 71

Andray Blatche (Washington Wizards) - 72

JaVale McGee (Washington Wizards) - 59

 

The next list is in player rating order.

 

Kobe Bryant (Los Angeles Lakers) - 97

Dwyane Wade (Miami Heat) - 97

LeBron James (Miami Heat) - 97

Chris Paul (New Orleans Hornets) - 95

Carmelo Anthony (Denver Nuggets) - 93

Deron Williams (Utah Jazz) - 92

Kevin Durant (Oklahoma City Thunder) - 91

Tim Duncan (San Antonio Spurs) - 90

Pau Gasol (Los Angeles Lakers) - 89

Joe Johnson (Atlanta Hawks) - 88

Dwight Howard (Orlando Magic) - 88

Brandon Roy (Portland Trail Blazers) - 88

Rajon Rondo (Boston Celtics) - 87

Chris Bosh (Miami Heat) - 87

Amare Stoudemire (New York Knicks) - 86

Derrick Rose (Chicago Bulls) - 85

Carlos Boozer (Chicago Bulls) - 85

Andre Iguodala (Philadephia 76ers) - 85

Steve Nash (Phoenix Suns) - 85

Stephen Jackson (Charlotte Bobcats) - 84

Gerald Wallace (Charlotte Bobcats) - 84

Monta Ellis (Golden State Warriors) - 84

Josh Smith (Atlanta Hawks) - 83

Paul Pierce (Boston Celtics) - 83

Jason Kidd (Dallas Mavericks) - 83

Dirk Nowitzki (Dallas Mavericks) - 83

Chauncey Billups (Denver Nuggets) - 83

David Lee (Golden State Warriors) - 83

Yao Ming (Houston Rockets) - 83

Danny Granger (Indiana Pacers) - 83

Russell Westbrook (Oklahoma City Thunder) - 83

Gilbert Arenas (Washington Wizards) - 83

Andrew Bogut (Milwaukee Bucks) - 82

Tyreke Evans (Sacramento Kings) - 82

Caron Butler (Dallas Mavericks) - 81

Rudy Gay (Memphis Grizzlies) - 81

Brook Lopez (New Jersey Nets) - 81

Vince Carter (Orlando Magic) - 81

John Wall (Washington Wizards) - 81

Kevin Garnett (Boston Celtics) - 80

Stephen Curry (Golden State Warriors) - 80

Aaron Brooks (Houston Rockets) - 80

Kevin Martin (Houston Rockets) - 80

Darren Collison (Indiana Pacers) - 80

OJ Mayo (Memphis Grizzlies) - 80

Zach Randolph (Memphis Grizzlies) - 80

Al Jefferson (Utah Jazz) - 80

Ray Allen (Boston Celtics) - 79

Baron Davis (Los Angeles Clippers) - 79

Ron Artest (Los Angeles Lakers) - 79

Trevor Ariza (New Orleans Hornets) - 79

Al Horford (Atlanta Hawks) - 78

Antawn Jamison (Cleveland Cavaliers) - 78

Shawn Marion (Dallas Mavericks) - 78

Luis Scola (Houston Rockets) - 78

Chris Kaman (Los Angeles Clippers) - 78

Corey Maggette (Milwaukee Bucks) - 78

Devin Harris (New Jersey Nets) - 78

Tony Parker (San Antonio Spurs) - 78

Luol Deng (Chicago Bulls) - 77

Kenyon Martin (Denver Nuggets) - 77

Richard Hamilton (Detroit Pistons) - 77

Andrew Bynum (Los Angeles Lakers) - 77

Marc Gasol (Memphis Grizzlies) - 77

Emeka Okafor (New Orleans Hornets) - 77

Jeff Green (Oklahoma City Thunder) - 77

LaMarcus Aldridge (Portland Trail Blazers) - 77

Mo Williams (Cleveland Cavaliers) - 76

Tayshaun Prince (Detroit Pistons) - 76

Shane Battier (Houston Rockets) - 76

Blake Griffin (Los Angeles Clippers) - 76

Rashard Lewis (Orlando Magic) - 76

Evan Turner (Philadephia 76ers) - 76

Andre Miller (Portland Trail Blazers) - 76

George Hill (San Antonio Spurs) - 76

Nene (Denver Nuggets) - 75

Brandon Jennings (Milwaukee Bucks) - 75

David West (New Orleans Hornets) - 75

Jameer Nelson (Orlando Magic) - 75

Greg Oden (Portland Trail Blazers) - 75

Carl Landry (Sacramento Kings) - 75

Leandro Barbosa (Toronto Raptors) - 75

Rodney Stuckey (Detroit Pistons) - 74

Ben Wallace (Detroit Pistons) - 74

Eric Gordon (Los Angeles Clippers) - 74

John Salmons (Milwaukee Bucks) - 74

Jonny Flynn (Minnesota Timberwolves) - 74

Kevin Love (Minnesota Timberwolves) - 74

Wilson Chandler (New York Knicks) - 74

Richard Jefferson (San Antonio Spurs) - 74

Andrea Bargnani (Toronto Raptors) - 74

Andrei Kirilenko (Utah Jazz) - 74

Paul Millsap (Utah Jazz) - 74

Mike Bibby (Atlanta Hawks) - 73

Joakim Noah (Chicago Bulls) - 73

Mike Conley (Memphis Grizzlies) - 73

Wesley Johnson (Minnesota Timberwolves) - 73

Raymond Felton (New York Knicks) - 73

Elton Brand (Philadephia 76ers) - 73

Jason Richardson (Phoenix Suns) - 73

Hedo Turkoglu (Phoenix Suns) - 73

Kendrick Perkins (Boston Celtics) - 72

Mike Miller (Miami Heat) - 72

Troy Murphy (New Jersey Nets) - 72

Danilo Gallinari (New York Knicks) - 72

Mickael Pietrus (Orlando Magic) - 72

Jose Calderon (Toronto Raptors) - 72

Andray Blatche (Washington Wizards) - 72

Brendan Haywood (Dallas Mavericks) - 71

Roy Hibbert (Indiana Pacers) - 71

Luc Mbah a Moute (Milwaukee Bucks) - 71

Josh Howard (Washington Wizards) - 71

Boris Diaw (Charlotte Bobcats) - 70

Anthony Parker (Cleveland Cavaliers) - 70

Corey Brewer (Minnesota Timberwolves) - 70

Anthony Randolph (New York Knicks) - 70

Jrue Holiday (Philadephia 76ers) - 70

Samuel Dalembert (Sacramento Kings) - 70

Raja Bell (Utah Jazz) - 70

DJ Augustin (Charlotte Bobcats) - 69

Ronnie Brewer (Chicago Bulls) - 69

Andris Biedrins (Golden State Warriors) - 69

Derek Fisher (Los Angeles Lakers) - 69

Travis Outlaw (New Jersey Nets) - 69

Marcus Thornton (New Orleans Hornets) - 69

Nicolas Batum (Portland Trail Blazers) - 69

Anderson Varejao (Cleveland Cavaliers) - 68

Antonio McDyess (San Antonio Spurs) - 68

Marvin Williams (Atlanta Hawks) - 66

Jonas Jerebko (Detroit Pistons) - 66

Thabo Sefolosha (Oklahoma City Thunder) - 66

Spencer Hawes (Philadephia 76ers) - 66

Beno Udrih (Sacramento Kings) - 66

Omri Casspi (Sacramento Kings) - 66

Jamario Moon (Cleveland Cavaliers) - 65

Arron Afflalo (Denver Nuggets) - 65

Brandon Rush (Indiana Pacers) - 65

Anthony Morrow (New Jersey Nets) - 65

Dorell Wright (Golden State Warriors) - 64

Hakim Warrick (Phoenix Suns) - 64

Robin Lopez (Phoenix Suns) - 64

Amir Johnson (Toronto Raptors) - 63

Rasual Butler (Los Angeles Clippers) - 61

Erick Dampier (Charlotte Bobcats) - 60

Nenad Krstic (Oklahoma City Thunder) - 59

JaVale McGee (Washington Wizards) - 59

Joel Anthony (Miami Heat) - 58

Darko Milicic (Minnesota Timberwolves) - 57

Linas Kleiza (Toronto Raptors) - 55

Josh McRoberts (Indiana Pacers) - 54

The list was posted on Operation Sports as images, and I typed it out in Excel and sorted them for easier analysis.

 

What do you think? Is Dirk Nowitzki really an 83?

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I normally don't consider ratings to be a fair reflection of the player in games as they are automatically generated based on a number of different categories. For example, Kyle Korver, who has a rating of 63 which is the second-lowest in the Bulls line-up (the full version has been released and if you want, I can post the link), is rated 63 because the rating is not based on only 3-point shooting but also the other things.

 

As far as Dirk's ratings go though, I would say he should be at least a 85. :unsure:

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Dirk's low overall isn't for lack of ability ratings, his scoring ratings are very high and he's easy to score with in the game, it's just the rating system isn't properly weighted for elite scorers, with players like Jason Kidd getting the same rating despite his decline in his career because of his high ratings in multiple areas such as rebounding, defending, passing, ball handling, and shooting threes.

 

 

Nevertheless, these ratings look roughly the same as 2K10, where the "Insider" didn't rate players well there either.

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then by that logic why is Durant a 91?

Well, Durant is a better defender than most say, at least by the numbers (ex. opponent eFG%). I'd say he's a better defender than Dirk, and he might be a better shooter. He also gets to the rim much better.

 

But still, Dirk being an 83 makes no sense, especially when I look around and see Monta Ellis an 84, and David Lee an 83. Ridiculous.

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then by that logic why is Durant a 91?

 

I compared the ratings of Durant (88) and Dirk (83) in 2K10. Apparently post defense is weighted a lot for power forwards and centers, so that really hurt Dirk's rating. Perimeter defense has a higher weight for wing players, and Durant has decent ratings there, so that gives him an advantage over Dirk.

 

I tried increasing Dirk's post defense and shot blocking, only two separate ratings out of the 40 or so total, and Dirk's rating became even with Durant's.

 

 

But still, Dirk being an 83 makes no sense, especially when I look around and see Monta Ellis an 84, and David Lee an 83. Ridiculous.

 

Again, the 2K Insider (the guy who's paid to judge the official ratings) is absolutely awful, while other guys like Rashidi ( http://thereal2kinsider.blogspot.com/2010/09/rashidis-nba-2k11-player-ratings.html ) do it in their spare time and put up downloads on 2K share, and actually do a better job (though even his ratings are arguable, he uses extra means to create his ratings like Synergy Sports, and they are much better than the guy who's freaking paid).

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Again, the 2K Insider (the guy who's paid to judge the official ratings) is absolutely awful, while other guys like Rashidi ( http://thereal2kinsider.blogspot.com/2010/09/rashidis-nba-2k11-player-ratings.html ) do it in their spare time and put up downloads on 2K share, and actually do a better job (though even his ratings are arguable, he uses extra means to create his ratings like Synergy Sports, and they are much better than the guy who's freaking paid).

His are garbage, too. 100-80 ratings:

 

95 - LeBron James (SF/PF)

94 – Dwyane Wade (SG/PG)

92 – Dwight Howard ©

91 – Kobe Bryant (SG/SF)

91 - Chris Paul (PG)

89 - Kevin Durant (SF)

89 - Deron Williams (PG)

87 - Tim Duncan ©

86 - Chris Bosh (PF/C)

86 - Brandon Roy (SG/SF)

85 - Rajon Rondo (PG)

85 - Carlos Boozer (PF/C)

85 - Amare Stoudemire (PF/C)

84 - Steve Nash (PG)

84 - Pau Gasol (PF/C)

84 - Carmelo Anthony (SF)

83 – Yao Ming ©

83 – Russell Westbrook (PG)

83 - Joe Johnson (SG/SF)

83 - Gerald Wallace (SF/PF)

82 – Tyreke Evans (SG/PG)

82 - Manu Ginobili (SG/SF)

82 – Kevin Love (PF/C)

82 - Kevin Garnett (PF)

82 – Dirk Nowitzki (PF/C)

82 – Derrick Rose (PG)

82 – Darren Collison (PG)

82 - Danny Granger (SF/PF)

81 - Gilbert Arenas (SG/PG)

81 – David Lee (PF/C)

81 - Baron Davis (PG)

81 - Al Horford (C/PF)

80 - Zach Randolph (PF/C)

80 – Stephen Curry (PG/SG)

80 - Paul Pierce (SF)

80 - Monta Ellis (SG/PG)

80 - Josh Smith (PF)

80 – Greg Oden ©

80 – Evan Turner (SF/SG)

80 - Andrew Bogut ©

80 - Andre Iguodala (SG/SF)

 

Please.

 

EDIT: And he's got Iverson better than Mayo, Defino and Gooden as good as Bargnani, and Keyon Dooling and Toney Douglas as good as Eric Gordon.

 

LOL, his ratings are arguably worse.

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Well, Durant is a better defender than most say, at least by the numbers (ex. opponent eFG%). I'd say he's a better defender than Dirk, and he might be a better shooter. He also gets to the rim much better.

 

But still, Dirk being an 83 makes no sense, especially when I look around and see Monta Ellis an 84, and David Lee an 83. Ridiculous.

 

Same with Boozer. Why the hell is he an 85?

 

Happy with the Rockets' rating though, tough to swallow Yao being an 83 and I think Martin should be a bit higher (at least better than Vince Carter) but other than that no complaints.

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yeah i agree that not every player has the right rating in my mind. just a few notables: Dorrel Wright, Eric Dampier, Joel Anthony, etc.. but for the most part i feel that they are decent, obviously not even 90% accurate, but still decent.. so I'm satisfied.

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