magicbalala245 Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 (edited) Carmelo Anthony reportedly wants to be traded to a big market -- to both win a title and maximize his marketability. Sources previously said he was interested in going to New Jersey, a franchise that will move to Brooklyn in a couple of years. Anthony, who has never gone public with his demands, was asked about his marketing prowess, and he said: "As far as marketing, it comes from winning. If I ain't winning, then nobody wants me to market their product." So he was asked: "Then why would you want to play for the team that won 12 games last season?" Anthony then said: "I never said I want to play for the Nets." Edited October 4, 2010 by magicbalala245 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JYD Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 Exactly. The Nets are trash and no big name F.A. player wants to play for them. It all comes down to winning. These guys got plenty of money. They want to go to a place where their going to get the most attention (NY, LA, BOSTON) and WIN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted October 4, 2010 Owner Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 Exactly. The Nets are trash and no big name F.A. player wants to play for them. It all comes down to winning. These guys got plenty of money. They want to go to a place where their going to get the most attention (NY, LA, BOSTON) and WIN.I would remove that last part, because last season, the Knicks weren't that much better than New Jersey (the Nets tanked, it was obvious just watching them), and yet Amare still left a 50+ win Suns team to go to a team that won just 29 games in a weaker conference. It has a lot to do with the money and the marketing. A LOT. I'm not sure if Amare expected to win much in New York, unless he's thinking Melo to NY is a sure bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guru Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 Exactly. The Nets are trash and no big name F.A. player wants to play for them. It all comes down to winning. These guys got plenty of money. They want to go to a place where their going to get the most attention (NY, LA, BOSTON) and WIN.Hahahaha because the Knicks are so much better than the Nets right? [expletive] outta here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poe Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 (edited) Hahahaha because the Knicks are so much better than the Nets right? [expletive] outta here Well, the Knicks were definitely better last season. By 17 games to be exact, which so happens to be the same win differential as last year's Cavaliers (61 wins) and Bobcats (44 wins), and same differential as last year's Lakers (57 wins) and Grizzlies (40 wins). Edited October 4, 2010 by Poe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guru Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 Yep, because we didn't tank on purpose or anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clutch Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 personally i think he is tryin to be smart, because he never said exactly "i wanna be traded" or "i wanna play for the nets" but its obvious he was lookin at those options Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren2ThaG Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 What is he body language? he want's to finish his career in Denver? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teletopez Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 The Nets season can do most of the responding, but I just want to point out that from last year's squad, there are only four players that are on the team right now: Harris, Lopez, Humphries, and T-Will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JYD Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 I would remove that last part, because last season, the Knicks weren't that much better than New Jersey (the Nets tanked, it was obvious just watching them), and yet Amare still left a 50+ win Suns team to go to a team that won just 29 games in a weaker conference. It has a lot to do with the money and the marketing. A LOT. I'm not sure if Amare expected to win much in New York, unless he's thinking Melo to NY is a sure bet.Yes, sure marketing is a big reason. NY or NJ? The difference is astronomical in terms of marketing. NY is much more likely to land another big name F.A. to play along Amare, which was probably the main reason he went there as well as the marketing and money. Hahahaha because the Knicks are so much better than the Nets right? [expletive] outta hereThey are certainly better, although not by much. Unfortunately for your Nets, the only team anyone cares about in the NJ/NY area is the Knicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multi-Billionaire Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 I wanna shoot this guy really... the Nets are moving to Brooklyn. What does he want?? The more pre-season games the Nets play, the more they're keeping Favors. [expletive]. And it's understandable for Nets to be put off after this comment. Who wants to trade their 3rd pick for a one year rental player? The way he does the whole thing makes me hate him, the way he came to media day, smiling, "I never asked for a trade" but everyone knows his intention, it's like he wants to put the whole Nuggets organization, fans down if it's what it takes to get what he wants... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 Yes, sure marketing is a big reason. NY or NJ? The difference is astronomical in terms of marketing. Not really. The Nets are located right across the Hudson in the same exact market as the Knicks. It's not like we're talking about southern NJ...Newark is smack dab in the middle of the most densly populated area of the most densly populated state in the entire country. And Manhattan is not off-limits to the Nets in terms of marketing, as the, "Blueprint For Greatness" billboard illustrated. The only difference between the Knicks and Nets is the Knicks have the tradition of historically being the area's "A" team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomarFachix Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 The Jets playing in North Jersey doesn't seem to detract much from their NY marketability, even as the 'B' team in the area. I agree with that part of what Nitro said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guru Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 The Jets playing in North Jersey doesn't seem to detract much from their NY marketability, even as the 'B' team in the area. I agree with that part of what Nitro said.Good post, I didn't even think of that. The Giants and Jets both play in New Jersey and it clearly doesn't take anything away from their marketability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JYD Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 Not really. The Nets are located right across the Hudson in the same exact market as the Knicks. It's not like we're talking about southern NJ...Newark is smack dab in the middle of the most densly populated area of the most densly populated state in the entire country. And Manhattan is not off-limits to the Nets in terms of marketing, as the, "Blueprint For Greatness" billboard illustrated. The only difference between the Knicks and Nets is the Knicks have the tradition of historically being the area's "A" team.It doesn't matter where the Nets are located. They are OBVIOUSLY the B team, FAR more so then any other sport (Mets, Yankees, Rangers, Devils, Islanders, Jets, Giants). The Knicks at the Garden are far bigger then the Nets at any venue. When they move to Brooklyn, it will certainly help, but the Knicks are always going to be the team in the city. The Jets playing in North Jersey doesn't seem to detract much from their NY marketability, even as the 'B' team in the area. I agree with that part of what Nitro said.It's completely different in football. The Jets have a huge fan base, plus the NFL > NBA in terms of fan market. NY is big enough for two NFL teams to be huge, not so much with the NBA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomarFachix Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 They are OBVIOUSLY the B team, FAR more so then any other sport (Rangers, Devils, Islanders). I know you don't watch hockey, so I'll give you a pass... but the Islanders are a red headed stepchild. It's completely different in football. The Jets have a huge fan base, plus the NFL > NBA in terms of fan market. NY is big enough for two NFL teams to be huge, not so much with the NBA. The Nets have a huge fan base too, if for no other reason than having been more successful for over a decade. I don't get why, if it's big enough for two NFL teams, MLB teams, and three NHL teams (which, as you say, are all equally shared by fans), it's not so for the NBA. Doesn't seem to make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JYD Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 I know you don't watch hockey, so I'll give you a pass... but the Islanders are a red headed stepchild. The Nets have a huge fan base too, if for no other reason than having been more successful for over a decade. I don't get why, if it's big enough for two NFL teams, MLB teams, and three NHL teams (which, as you say, are all equally shared by fans), it's not so for the NBA. Doesn't seem to make sense.The Nets do not have a huge fan base...their attendance is a joke every year. they couldn't even sell out playoff games and nba final games (if i remember correctly...could be wrong on that, but i do remember hearing that the time.) and yes, the rangers are still bigger then the devils in the tri state area (ny nj ct) because they play in NYC at THE GARDEN...but because of HOW SUCCESSFUL the devils are, they can get away with two teams being successful in the tri state area. no one really cares about the islanders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 The Nets do not have a huge fan base...their attendance is a joke every year. they couldn't even sell out playoff games and nba final games (if i remember correctly...could be wrong on that, but i do remember hearing that the time.) Yeah, because having the worst arena in the league that was unaccessible via mass-transit had nothing to do with their attendance issues... And they sold out the Finals games fine, and the crowd was great for those games (and that entire post-season). They had some trouble a few years ago with a few games not being sold-out, but again there were many factors involved. The Nets do have a decent fanbase, but the Izod Center made the situation seem a lot worse than it was. Going to the Prudential Center will be a huge boost to the franchise, and it will be even better when they move to Brooklyn in 2 years. Besides, you completely avoided my rebuttal to you saying the difference between marketing in NJ and NY is astronomical, and manage to turn it into a Nets vs. Knicks pissing contest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomarFachix Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 (edited) The Nets do not have a huge fan base...their attendance is a joke every year. they couldn't even sell out playoff games and nba final games (if i remember correctly...could be wrong on that, but i do remember hearing that the time.) and yes, the rangers are still bigger then the devils in the tri state area (ny nj ct) because they play in NYC at THE GARDEN...but because of HOW SUCCESSFUL the devils are, they can get away with two teams being successful in the tri state area. no one really cares about the islanders. To be perfectly honest, I don't even know what you're arguing anymore. I'm still stuck on the Nets being more of a "B" team than the Islanders. Anyways, good talk. Edited October 6, 2010 by The Reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JYD Posted October 7, 2010 Report Share Posted October 7, 2010 Yeah, because having the worst arena in the league that was unaccessible via mass-transit had nothing to do with their attendance issues... And they sold out the Finals games fine, and the crowd was great for those games (and that entire post-season). They had some trouble a few years ago with a few games not being sold-out, but again there were many factors involved. The Nets do have a decent fanbase, but the Izod Center made the situation seem a lot worse than it was. Going to the Prudential Center will be a huge boost to the franchise, and it will be even better when they move to Brooklyn in 2 years. Besides, you completely avoided my rebuttal to you saying the difference between marketing in NJ and NY is astronomical, and manage to turn it into a Nets vs. Knicks pissing contest.It is astronomical. There is nothing to respond to.. And I agree the move to the Prudential Center WILL help the Nets a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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