Which addiction is worst?

[Warren2ThaG]

Yes, addictions at tha best.... worst ones? http://www.sportsrefuge.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/1947.gif

[Check my Stats]

Gambling for sure.

[bigdog17k]

I picked Drugs. Because it's bad for the person addicted, and sad for the family dealing with the addict. It destroys families. It's always good to see a person break the habit though.

[JYD]

Drugs. Most looked down upon, often times your body can not function when off it, and it's hard to keep a job if you're a cocaine addict.

[NomarFachix]

Shopping, definitely shopping.

[La Bomba]

The one that has a chance of killing you if it's bad enough. Drugs.

[Real Deal]

Drugs, by a landslide. I have an uncle that gambles, and another that is a cocaine addict, and they don't even compare.

[deestillballin]

Drugs, how is this even a question. Drugs dont compare to any of those lol

[fish7718]

Take drugs out the poll and we have a real discussion, and lol @ food addiction, wtf? Who isn't addicted to food?

[Real Deal]

There are benefits to gambling. You can actually win money, and you don't necessarily do damage to your body unless you're not eating (pretty extreme case I've never encountered).

 

Drug addiction...you lose money, you ruin your life, you present problems to your family, and there's nothing good about it at all.

[Guru]

I voted for food because I hate fat people.

 

Haha, seriously though, I hate fat people.

[YugoRocketsFan]

I voted for food because I hate fat people.

 

Haha, seriously though, I hate fat people.

 

You're a fatist.

[Smitty]

Drugs and alcohol, shouldn't even be close.

[Warren2ThaG]

Bring it on if alcohol is an addiction, see who wins the fight. Internet is just as bad, brain trama.

[Sun Tzu]

Drugs - It causes financial and health problems and a lot of other type of problems as well.

[fish7718]

Bring it on if alcohol is an addiction, see who wins the fight. Internet is just as bad, brain trama.

Yeah my dad almost killed himself with alcohol, he would about 8 oz's of vodka every night. Drove into a telephone pole completely drunk. When he detoxed they had to put him in a coma for a month just so he wouldn't die. I seriously doubt the internet will do that to me.

[Warren2ThaG]

Yeah my dad almost killed himself with alcohol, he would about 8 oz's of vodka every night. Drove into a telephone pole completely drunk. When he detoxed they had to put him in a coma for a month just so he wouldn't die. I seriously doubt the internet will do that to me.

 

SaMMy66ziLLa (1:36:05 AM): which

allstar8533 (1:37:13 AM): forum guy

SaMMy66ziLLa (1:37:34 AM): tell him zilla said FU

 

bring it on?

[Multi-Billionaire]

I actually vote gambling... most drug addicts usually reach that certain turnaround point in their lives because they reach rock bottom, physically and mentally... they have no choice but to turn it around.

 

 

Gambling? The real problem with gambling is you win some. That makes you keep coming back. But over long term, you're going to lose a lot of money. But you keep coming back, because you forget your losses and only remember the small and few wins you find along the way.

 

 

With drugs, you're addicted physically much more so than mentally. You can easily recover if you reach that certain point "enough is enough". Drug addicts usually suffer, and that's key for anyone to reach a turnaround point in their life... because they suffer they feel the urge to stop.

 

With gambling, you're addicted mentally for sure, and it's harder to recover. Gambling addicts usually don't suffer, because they have this "hope" and "fantasy" they're going to win big one day, or win back the money they've lost... because they don't suffer, they never feel the urge to stop.

 

 

I used to smoke weed everyday and then meth back in 2002. Although I wouldn't consider myself addicted, it got pretty bad to the point I started fantasizing my housemates wanting to kill me (the amazing power of meth) How bad? It's bad I could literally hear one of my housemates take a knife from a drawer in the kitchen and yell for me. And recently I took a pretty big loss in gambling for World Cup (luckily WC is once every 4 years). So based on my experience alone, I vote gambling.

Edited October 14, 2010 by Multi-Billionaire

[fish7718]

SaMMy66ziLLa (1:36:05 AM): which

allstar8533 (1:37:13 AM): forum guy

SaMMy66ziLLa (1:37:34 AM): tell him zilla said FU

 

bring it on?

Oh it's on

[Warren2ThaG]

Oh it's on

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3rTDI8OJkg

[Nitro]

Before I begin, let me first say I am a drug addict. Not the kind that smokes weed everyday...the kind that has completely ruined his life by shoving pills up the nose and sticking needles in his arm. Almost died twice, including one severe OD where my stomach had to be flushed with coal. So when you consider my replies to some of your comments, realize it is coming from the source.

 

I actually vote gambling... most drug addicts usually reach that certain turnaround point in their lives because they reach rock bottom, physically and mentally... they have no choice but to turn it around.

 

Yes...but the thing is that many drug addicts DON'T hit that rock-bottom, and end up homeless doing God knows what for drugs until they die, or they end up 6ft under from an OD a little sooner in the cycle. Either way, the fact that SO many addicts OD and die every single year should be the #1 factor in this whole discussion. Gambling addicts don't die from gambling too much, yet all it takes is one "hot" bag of heroin to kill you.

 

Gambling? The real problem with gambling is you win some. That makes you keep coming back. But over long term, you're going to lose a lot of money. But you keep coming back, because you forget your losses and only remember the small and few wins you find along the way.

 

Same thing with drugs. Everytime you get a hit of that *insert drug* you are winning, at least in your mind. That one hit comes before your family, friends, own well-being, etc... And speaking of money, I went through over 7K in 2 months over the summer on drugs alone!!! And I wasn't even at my worst! I wasn't physically addicted for the majority of that time, either...it was purely mental. I knew what I was doing to myself, others and my finances, yet I kept doing it...why? Not for [expletive]s and giggles, but because to me being high was the only thing that mattered in life.

 

With drugs, you're addicted physically much more so than mentally. You can easily recover if you reach that certain point "enough is enough". Drug addicts usually suffer, and that's key for anyone to reach a turnaround point in their life... because they suffer they feel the urge to stop.

 

Hahahaha....

 

1) All drug addicts start as being heavily mentally addicted. You don't become physically addicted to a substance after just a few times, and some drugs you don't ever develop a heavy physical dependance (like weed, ecstasy, etc...). You have to be severely mentally addicted to do drugs like heroin or coke everyday for weeks and weeks, and chances are that the person doing heroin/coke has been at least a recreational user of other drugs for quite some time. There are some exceptions, like patients being prescribed heavy amounts of pain killers for an injury, but the ones who take them as prescribed aren't drug addicts.

 

2) Recovering is NEVER easy, either physically or mentally. Take a bunch of Oxy's or heroin everyday for a few months, then stop cold turkey, then tell me it's easy. Kicking highly addictive drugs is very, very painful on the physical side, and mentally it's even worse. You become so used to doing everyday things on drugs that you forget how to do them without the drugs. It changes your entire world and you have to re-learn basic things.

Edited October 14, 2010 by Nitro

[AllenIverson#1fan]

Drugs no doubt.

[Multi-Billionaire]

I have a cousin whose life was thrown upside down because he gambled and lost $110K... the problem is it's not his own money, it's a debt. In Indonesia, that amount of money is A LOT. You can imagine for $110K in USA, people will kill people... in Indonesia, for that much, let's just put it this way: there's law no more, meaning the crooked police and law enforcements are also involved/ compromised. He got people knocking on his door, had to evacuate from town to town, the people went to his mother (my mom's little sister), and she had to convince them the debt would be repaid in small installments... he ruined the lives of his siblings who're abroad studying and their savings had to be taken away to cover this mess... now he's somewhere selling Indo fish cakes, making measly money just to have enough on the table for his family (wife and kid) and the rest toward the debt.

 

Before the debt, his family was considered pretty wealthy, with bright future. Now, their dreams were destroyed in one single move. I honestly don't know much more about it, for I rarely meet my mom to hear the story. He's lucky my uncles (mom's little brothers) are stinkin rich and one especially is very damn generous. I think he should be greatly helped there, but if my uncles had not been rich, my cousin would have mortgaged his whole life trying to repay the debt... and not to mention the lives of many closed ones he compromised. He's fortunate, others who are in his position (in huge debt) are not so fortunate.

 

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In comparison with drugs, you don't swing $110K in one single move... unless you're actually a drug trafficker or drug lord. You went over $7K over 2 months. This is $110 K in less than a week.

 

 

Just put the comparison this way:

- When you reach rock bottom in drugs, you can always stop, even if you're in terrible physical state, if you reach a situation where it's rock bottom that your conscience says, "alright this has to stop" given that your will is strong, IT CAN BE DONE: the drugs stop IMMEDIATELY.

 

- But if you're in a huge debt like this, even if your will is strong, you can't IMMEDIATELY stop the debt... you're still in the debt until you repay the whole thing. Most huge debts like that are not repaid even until the debtors die. It lasts a lifetime even after you stop the gambling.

 

 

 

The debt of gambling results in A LOT MORE consequences than the short-long term impact of drugs.

Edited October 15, 2010 by Multi-Billionaire

[Nitro]

I have a cousin whose life was thrown upside down because he gambled and lost $110K... the problem is it's not his own money, it's a debt. In Indonesia, that amount of money is A LOT. You can imagine for $110K in USA, people will kill people...

 

I've heard of many stories where drug addicts kill FOR A SINGLE BAG. The type of lifestyle of a hardcore addict, especially serious addictions like drugs and gambling, involves stealing, killing and similar things. Gambling addiction is not special in regards to that. I am sure if you walk around a ghetto in the USA you will hear plenty of stories of addicts beating big-time dealers and getting they, or their families, hurt/killed as a result.

 

In comparison with drugs, you don't swing $110K in one single move... unless you're actually a drug trafficker or drug lord. You went over $7K over 2 months. This is $110 K in less than a week.

 

First off, I'm 19. If someone gave me 110K, it may not have been gone in a single move, but it would have been blown through. And judging by my history, I would have probably been found dead somewhere in that binge from an accidental OD. I've had OD's when I've had little money (<$20), and when I've had no money at all (stole it). If I did make a move for $110K worth of drugs, just for myself, I'd more than likely end up in prison for many, many years.

 

- When you reach rock bottom in drugs, you can always stop, even if you're in terrible physical state, if you reach a situation where it's rock bottom that your conscience says, "alright this has to stop" given that your will is strong, IT CAN BE DONE: the drugs stop IMMEDIATELY.

 

The issue is not everyone reaches this bottom. If it was so easy to just stop because life has gotten so uncontrollable, drug addiction would not be such a serious, life-threatening situation, and groups like AA and NA would have success rates much larger than the <10% they state is the case at rehabs. Also, I go to AA meetings and I've seen people who have been sober for 20+ years go out on one binge and end up 6ft deep a few weeks later.

 

- But if you're in a huge debt like this, even if your will is strong, you can't IMMEDIATELY stop the debt... you're still in the debt until you repay the whole thing. Most huge debts like that are not repaid even until the debtors die. It lasts a lifetime even after you stop the gambling.

 

And those drug addicts who lost EVERYTHING and wound up homeless can't bring those things back upon becoming sober, either.

 

The debt of gambling results in A LOT MORE consequences than the short-long term impact of drugs.

 

Death is long-term, and you don't need to be homeless and sucking dick for crack before you can be taken by a drug addiction. I've had 1 friend, one year older than me, that died from a drug addiction. And do you have any idea the long-term effects drug addiction has on the body? I already have memory problems, issues with my eyes and sometimes severe depression from chronic ecstasy use. I have nerve damage to my pinky from screwing up shooting heroin. And that's just me, who's only been an addict for 2 years. And that's just on a physical level...the things I've put my family and friends to can NEVER be reversed.

 

Another thing I failed to mention is the danger of an addict being severely intoxicated in regards to other civilians. Do you have ANY idea how many deaths/injuries occur annually from intoxicated drivers? Over 40,000 people a year in the US die from drunk-driving accidents ALONE...that isn't even including drivers intoxicated on other various drugs. It also doesn't account for various other felonies and murders caused by addicts during a blackout (where you don't remember anything the next day from the previous night).

[Multi-Billionaire]

I can see your point, but can you see the comparison I make:

 

- Drug addicts who stop drugs, stop the self-destruction IMMEDIATELY as long as they enter rehab and make a vow to stop it... their lives get better from the point where they say "I'll stop the drugs." Even if they're in terrible terrible physical condition, the situation gets better instantly once the drug stops. NOTE THAT I'M NOT REFERRING TO THOSE WHO TRY QUITTING BUT SUCCUMB TO THE TEMPTATIONS AGAIN. I REFER TO THE DRUG ADDICTS WHO COMPLETELY STOP THE DRUGS.

 

- Gambling addicts who stop gambling, do not necessarily stop the self-destruction because the debt is there. Yes, they stop the gambling but if they're in a huge debt especially, will have no choice but to dedicate their whole lives to repay the debt instead of living their lives the way they wanted to. Yes, they no longer gamble, but the debt is still there and probably forever until they die.

 

 

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- Drug addicts who stop drugs begin to rebuild their lives immediately, even when they're still in a rehab. If one is too impaired to make decision to stop the drugs, their loved ones can make him stop it.

 

- In comparison, gambling addicts who stop their gambling, although they want to rebuild their lives immediately, they canNOT, because the debt (huge debt especially) is there to haunt them for the rest of their lives. My cousin is a great example, he went from living pretty wealthy reduced to moving from rental place to rental place in small towns, selling fish cakes and making measly income. Does it affect only him? No, it affects his wife, kid, and then his siblings (their savings, probably to buy a house, car, or cost of their studies... got taken away in an instant) and parents, and then us his distant families.

Edited October 15, 2010 by Multi-Billionaire