2010 elections

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Yeah, Lkr... its very very likely.

 

And, Obama's screw the middle and upper class. So, what's your point?

 

Unemployment has DOUBLED since he came into office.

 

I think it's time for some real......wait for it..........wait for it............."change". .

 

Proof of it doubling?

[EastCoastNiner]

Yeah, Lkr... its very very likely.

 

 

 

Proof of it doubling?

 

In January 2007, unemployment was 4.8%, and then the Democrats took control of Congress, and it is now at 9.6%, with much of that increase happening under Obama's watch.

[Lkr]

In January 2007, unemployment was 4.8%, and then the Democrats took control of Congress, and it is now at 9.6%, with much of that increase happening under Obama's watch.

lol at trying to blame it on Obama. You are amazing

[Lkr]

Corrine Brown got re-elected. Let's all celebrate

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgbBP9Em00A

[EastCoastNiner]

lol at trying to blame it on Obama. You are amazing

 

I didn't say it was just Obama, but he plays a major roll in the unemployment rate. He's also taken a piss on our U.S. Constitution as well during his time in office.

 

Who am I supposed to blame it on. The Democrats have had COMPLETE CONTROL since he's been in office. Good luck trying to spin that. .

[Lkr]

I didn't say it was just Obama, but he plays a major roll in the unemployment rate. He's also taken a piss on our U.S. Constitution as well during his time in office.

Who am I supposed to blame it on. The Democrats have had COMPLETE CONTROL since he's been in office. Good luck trying to spin that. .

I LURB DA PATRIOT ACT

 

That unemployment rate was due to Bush. If you look at the GDP numbers, you'll see that Obama stopped the bleeding, now it is time to recover.

[JYD]

And, Obama's screw the middle and upper class. So, what's your point?

 

Unemployment has DOUBLED since he came into office.

 

I think it's time for some real......wait for it..........wait for it............."change". .

His policies clearly favor the middle class. It's quite clear.

 

In January 2007, unemployment was 4.8%, and then the Democrats took control of Congress, and it is now at 9.6%, with much of that increase happening under Obama's watch.

No, that's not at all fair. You want to blame part of it on Democrats? Sure. Part of it on Obama? Ok, fine. Part of it on Republicans/Bush? Absolutely as well...

 

And if you actually look at it tbf...

Most of the job loss happened from Nov 08 to Feb 09...before Obama got into office/really did anything

 

I didn't say it was just Obama, but he plays a major roll in the unemployment rate. He's also taken a piss on our U.S. Constitution as well during his time in office.

 

Who am I supposed to blame it on. The Democrats have had COMPLETE CONTROL since he's been in office. Good luck trying to spin that. .

He hasn't done anything unconstitutional (which is largely always such a stupid debate because the constitution is so broad is many aspects) as far as I know.

 

And Democrats absolutely deserve blame for this. As do Republicans. As does Bush. As does Obama. As does, well, he the economy isn't ALWAYS going to be strong in a capitalist society, is it?

[Flash]

His policies clearly favor the middle class. It's quite clear.

 

Obviously not because they don't seem to be liking him very much.

 

No, that's not at all fair. You want to blame part of it on Democrats? Sure. Part of it on Obama? Ok, fine. Part of it on Republicans/Bush? Absolutely as well...

 

And if you actually look at it tbf...

Most of the job loss happened from Nov 08 to Feb 09...before Obama got into office/really did anything

 

Unemployment has risen under the Obama Admin. Obviously the Bush admin was in control when the recession began but its time to stop blaming Bush. We're 2 years in to this administration and unemployment is higher than it was and our economy isn't any better. Stop blaming Bush and start being accountable for what's going on.

[JYD]

Obviously not because they don't seem to be liking him very much.

 

 

 

Unemployment has risen under the Obama Admin. Obviously the Bush admin was in control when the recession began but its time to stop blaming Bush. We're 2 years in to this administration and unemployment is higher than it was and our economy isn't any better. Stop blaming Bush and start being accountable for what's going on.

You can't recover from a recession like this, something we haven't seen since the GD, in 2 years...and as I said, and go look this up, most of the jobs lost were from the months of nov 08, dec 08, jan 09, feb 09, and mar 09...before he even had a chance to make changes and get legislation into place!...

 

When it comes to the economy, it is obvious that Obama has not succeeded in what he set out to do. That doesn't mean his policies don't favor the middle class; because they clearly do...

[OSUBucksfan09]

They may favor them but they have not benefited them as much as what he said was going to happen.

Also the bigger prob with the US, we have never truly gotten out of a recession any where near as big as this without a war getting us out, and with War part of why we are in it now, we are in deep. Just my random thoughts tho, my candidate won but don't know how much it will help so.

[JYD]

They may favor them but they have not benefited them as much as what he said was going to happen.

Also the bigger prob with the US, we have never truly gotten out of a recession any where near as big as this without a war getting us out, and with War part of why we are in it now, we are in deep. Just my random thoughts tho, my candidate won but don't know how much it will help so.

Well, certain policies such as extending unemployment to those out of work (although, admittingly so many cheat this system...) and cutting taxes for the middle class as well as this health care package are obviously policies that support the middle class of America.

 

He will put more legislation through in the next 2 years that continues to help the common man out. Some people are just too [expletive]ing dumb to realize it, unfortunately. All they hear is rhetoric from the right.

[Real Deal]

Well, hey, at least my eye problems are better than they were a couple of years ago...which means I can go out and save up every penny I make before the Repubs take over the world (yes, the world) again.

[EastCoastNiner]

Well, hey, at least my eye problems are better than they were a couple of years ago...which means I can go out and save up every penny I make before the Repubs take over the world (yes, the world) again.

 

We get it that people think going into Iraq was a mistake, and I'm not saying I agree with going in, but everything else the U.S. has done has been necessary.

 

This is going slightly off topic, but many of you are the same people that say, "Oh, how can you hold prisoners in Guantanamo Bay"?. And, when some of those people attack our country, you guys will [expletive] how we weren't prepared, and then probably play the victim card and say the U.S. deserves it.

 

We're not playing world police, but when our country is attacked, we sure as hell better fight back.

 

 

I just want to ask you one question. If there was a genocide again in Africa, with hundreds of thousands of people dying, would you want the U.S. to go in, considering the wealth and power our nation possesses?

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In January 2007, unemployment was 4.8%, and then the Democrats took control of Congress, and it is now at 9.6%, with much of that increase happening under Obama's watch.

Strong source of proof, yourself?

[Real Deal]

We get it that people think going into Iraq was a mistake, and I'm not saying I agree with going in, but everything else the U.S. has done has been necessary.

 

This is going slightly off topic, but many of you are the same people that say, "Oh, how can you hold prisoners in Guantanamo Bay"?. And, when some of those people attack our country, you guys will [expletive] how we weren't prepared, and then probably play the victim card and say the U.S. deserves it.

 

We're not playing world police, but when our country is attacked, we sure as hell better fight back.

This is the problem with politics. You think that, because I support Obama, I support every single thing a Democrat lays on the table. Most every single time I hear this kind of stuff, it comes from a damn Republican, which is funny.

 

Select a President, throw the best in office without labels, and start thinking of ways to help our country without promoting a group of ideas. The House and the Senate are full of puppets, for the most part, and it's sad.

 

I wouldn't be opposed to this country locking all borders and forcing everyone to become citizens before stepping foot in the US (and, of course, finding a way to speed up that process). Wanting to close borders or crack down on illegal immigration doesn't mean I'm Republican, it means I don't need strangers, family or friends telling me what to believe in.

 

 

I just want to ask you one question. If there was a genocide again in Africa, with hundreds of thousands of people dying, would you want the U.S. to go in, considering the wealth and power our nation possesses?

What wealth?

 

And a genocide is different than a war for oil and a war against an act. As stated earlier, if we're going to go in to fight terrorism, we might as well plan on a war against murder, and maybe even racism...see how effective that will be.

[JYD]

This is the problem with politics. You think that, because I support Obama, I support every single thing a Democrat lays on the table. Most every single time I hear this kind of stuff, it comes from a damn Republican, which is funny.

 

Select a President, throw the best in office without labels, and start thinking of ways to help our country without promoting a group of ideas. The House and the Senate are full of puppets, for the most part, and it's sad.

I agree completely. Which is why I am not picking a political party when I register to vote. I'm a liberal,but an independent. I don't care for the 55 year old white man on either side with his rhetoric. Almost all of them are full of [expletive]. There just happens to be more of the 55 year old white man on the right. At least the Democratic party has some minorities, women, and fresh faces.

[Flash]

And a genocide is different than a war for oil and a war against an act. As stated earlier, if we're going to go in to fight terrorism, we might as well plan on a war against murder, and maybe even racism...see how effective that will be.

 

See I disagree with you there. Race relations and murder in general are different than actual threats to our nation's security. We absolutely did the right thing by going in on Afghanistan and the war on terror. Iraq could be looked at in 2 ways IMO. The first is that it was unnecessary and has played a role in why our country is in such bad shape today. Or, you can look at it as the US knocking out a very powerful regime and that IMO is definitely for the better of the world moving forward. Like I said though, there's 2 ways to look at Iraq but thankfully Bush was able to send the troop surge towards the end of his presidency and win it for us. The same strategy Obama is using now against Afghanistan which I completely support.

Edited November 4, 2010 by Flash

[Flash]

I agree completely. Which is why I am not picking a political party when I register to vote. I'm a liberal,but an independent. I don't care for the 55 year old white man on either side with his rhetoric. Almost all of them are full of [expletive]. There just happens to be more of the 55 year old white man on the right. At least the Democratic party has some minorities, women, and fresh faces.

 

Seriously? The race card? That's one of the more ignorant things I've read in this thread.

[EastCoastNiner]

I agree completely. Which is why I am not picking a political party when I register to vote. I'm a liberal,but an independent. I don't care for the 55 year old white man on either side with his rhetoric. Almost all of them are full of [expletive]. There just happens to be more of the 55 year old white man on the right. At least the Democratic party has some minorities, women, and fresh faces.

 

Yes, black people that just vote for Obama because he's black. There's a reason 90% of blacks voted for Obama. They are the ones(in general) that like to play the race card and just vote because of their race. It's the minorities that generally want the hand-outs and the easy way out, which is why the vote Democratic because that's what the Democratic party does. Also, the white middle class man is becoming more oppressed than any of the other classes, and getting screwed more than the minorities.

 

 

Also, Brandon, how can you say that genocide is much different than being attacked by a different country on OUR soil? Oh, and just in case you weren't aware or didn't want to acknowledge it, I'd suggest you read about the Sunnis and Shiites and tell me that there was no oppression or genocide there.

[JYD]

Seriously? The race card? That's one of the more ignorant things I've read in this thread.

That's why nothing ever gets done. The status quo gets boring in this country. The white old men of this country, that have been historically in power for years...change is nice. That's why it was so great to see a guy like Obama win the Presidency. Would've even liked if Hillary had won too.

[fish7718]

I love how the Democratic party is now being blamed for the issues in this country. After Bush in the republicans ran this country into the ground for 8 years you expect Obama to be able to come in and change it all in just 2 years? It's not even like he will continue to have the opportunity because the Republicans in the HoR are just gonna [expletive] block all the policies. Republicans need to admit their failure and have the self dignity to let someone else clean their mess for a change. Of course the democrats aren't perfect, but obv the Republican party ain't better. Gotta give a president more than 2 lousy years to actually change a country.

[EastCoastNiner]

I love how the Democratic party is now being blamed for the issues in this country. After Bush in the republicans ran this country into the ground for 8 years you expect Obama to be able to come in and change it all in just 2 years? It's not even like he will continue to have the opportunity because the Republicans in the HoR are just gonna [expletive] block all the policies. Republicans need to admit their failure and have the self dignity to let someone else clean their mess for a change. Of course the democrats aren't perfect, but obv the Republican party ain't better. Gotta give a president more than 2 lousy years to actually change a country.

 

Bush didn't run the country in the ground for eight years. You can put blame on him for his last four years, but he should get very little if any blame for anything during his first term. The community organizer would have tried to negotiate with the Taliban and wouldn't know what to do.

 

Obama is trying to drive this country into the ground, especially with his views of taxes and health-care.

 

 

And, it's great the America has woken up. Dozens of Democrats fell this week because of their views on health-care, and the lone Republican that supported it fell as well. The Democrats and Obama are toast in 2012.

[Flash]

I love how the Democratic party is now being blamed for the issues in this country. After Bush in the republicans ran this country into the ground for 8 years you expect Obama to be able to come in and change it all in just 2 years? It's not even like he will continue to have the opportunity because the Republicans in the HoR are just gonna [expletive] block all the policies. Republicans need to admit their failure and have the self dignity to let someone else clean their mess for a change. Of course the democrats aren't perfect, but obv the Republican party ain't better. Gotta give a president more than 2 lousy years to actually change a country.

 

Had we seen even marginal improvement then we might have a different election the other night. However, can you honestly and unbiasedly say that America is in a better place than it was 2 years ago? Unemployment is up even more and Obama has spent more than all other US Presidents put together in 2 years. Its out of control and the people have realized that. The results last night were also a reflection of how the country as a whole feels about Obamacare. Whether some people on here like it or not, its a flawed system and there are European countries that are moving further and further away from it because it simply isn't working. Even the man who created the Canadian healthcare system admitted its in a crisis and advocated privatizing it.

 

Also, Republicans have admitted their failure. I think that's a huge reason as to why they're getting the chance they are because a lot of the new faces have condemned the out of control Bush regime.

Edited November 4, 2010 by Flash

[Flash]

That's why nothing ever gets done. The status quo gets boring in this country. The white old men of this country, that have been historically in power for years...change is nice. That's why it was so great to see a guy like Obama win the Presidency. Would've even liked if Hillary had won too.

 

Its not about what's boring dude. Its about what's going to fix our nation. Just because Obama is a great speaker and because he's black doesn't make him a great candidate. He could be a feel good story but what people want is our country to get better under him and it simply hasn't.

[BasX]

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