Nitro Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 You're nuts, the Magic have been trying to build a championship team for years with Dwight, they made the finals once. Sorry I had no interest in reading this when you compared Shaq's offensive game to Dwight's offensive game, what an insult. Yes, the Magic made the Finals on the back of Dwight. With Hedo Turkoglu as his 2nd best player, a guy who couldn't even flourish on a crappy Raptors team or on the Suns with Steve Nash as his PG, he got to the Finals, beating a very good Celtics team and LeBron's Cavs in the playoffs. The Lakers without Kobe, the Heat without LeBron, and the Celtics without KG are FAR better than the Magic without Dwight. If you want to dismiss stats, try and dismiss these.... In Game 7 against the Celtics, Dwight had 23pts/22reb/3blk on 9-16 shooting. In Game 4 against the Cavs, he had 27pts/14reb/4ast/3blk on 10-16 shooting. In Game 5, he had 24pts/10reb/2ast/1blk on 8-10 shooting. In Game 7, he had 40pts/14reb/4ast/1blk n 14-21 shooting. And I am not comparing Dwight's game to Shaq's, I am showing how flawed your logic is that Dwight having only 6ft of range, can't handle the ball and being a poor FT shooter means all that much. I am not arguing Melo and Dirk are better offensive players, but the difference in their production and effectiveness offensively is far slimmer than the gap between Dwight and their defense. I guess if you base it off #'s and #'s you can make a case for Dwight but I look far past numbers I look at skills, the other guys have a lot more developed skills than Dwight and I've said it a few teams now and I'll say it again, they are more complete players. Again, how are they more complete? What do Dirk and Melo do well when they are having an off shooting night? If you replace Dirk with a great defensive PF like KG, there is no way Wade gets into the lane at will against the Mavs in the Finals, and they probably win a championship. In fact, that's a great series to point out, because Dirk was shut down by Udonis Haslem, and without his scoring he essentially became a glorified role player. If you take away Dwight's scoring, he's still the best defensive player in the league, and an elite rebounder. If you take away those things, he can still give you 20PPG on great efficiency. Either way, no matter what you do he is still going to make a big impact on the game. If Melo and Dirk are having a poor shooting night, their impact is minimal. Also, there is a major difference between being more polished and more complete. Melo is more polished than LeBron, but LeBron is more complete. Joe Johnson is more polished than Wade, but Wade is more complete. And you'll be hard pressed to find post players that are more polished than perimeter oriented players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocelts34 Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 Why does Carmelo have more votes then Dirk? I'd say Dirk is the best on that list, followed by either Amare or Deron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Swish* Posted December 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 (edited) One more day before we close this thread up and I CHOOSE if it's Dwight or Melo that passes or else.. you better vote and get this thing done Edited December 15, 2010 by *Swish* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headliner Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 Well now it's a close one between Dwight Howard and Carmelo Anthony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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