Most overrated player

[Nitro]

he is 3rd in rebound behind Carmelo and Wallace (last year he was second behind wallace) idk if thats above average thats pretty darn good. i dont understand the whole "for his hight his a bad rebounder" thats aload of bull [expletive]

 

He's 6'11'', plays 40MPG and grabs 6.7RPG. As I said, average to above average. He's not a great rebounder, he's not a bad rebounder...he's good.

 

he is 6th in assists a difference of .2 from being top 3, he may not be the best play maker not everyone is a lebron james but he gets the job done. his been rapidly improving this season in his iso situations, reading the double and making the right pass. perfect example 4th quarter against the hornets he had 4 assists and probably 3-5 hockey assists in that quarter alone didn't turn the ball over once.

 

He averages more turnovers than assists...for a perimeter player, that's very poor. When you're putting him on the same pedestal as Wade, Kobe, James, Paul and Williams, that's a major detriment. He's not a great ballhandler, he doesn't have great court vision and simply does not know *yet* how to make his teammates better in that regard. It may come eventually, but right now he doesn't have it. Basically, that makes him a more efficient Carmelo Anthony on offense. That's certainly not a bad thing, but it doesn't make him a top 5 player in the league. And wherever he ranks among SF's in assists, you have to factor in he's playing 40MPG, where as other, possibly better playmakers, may be playing only 20-30MPG.

 

his actually a pretty good defensive player and when it matters most he really locks down on players. he can guard multiple positions his a good help defender, plays smart uses his length very well to bother shots. and even though his thin he his not the weakest. he doesn't get pushed around

 

He's a pretty good defender, but that's it. He's not as bad defensively as Melo, but he's not on the same level as Wade/Kobe/LeBron.

 

i dont recall anyone calling him better than kobe, lebron wade or paul and even if they did its not that much of a stretch kids only 22 years old. im not saying i think he is but if people do im sure they are adding into factor of that he is only 22 years old, youngest scoring champ (like it or not he is) very humble and down to earth and only wants to get better and took his team to a 50 win season

 

First off, in Swish's topics ranking the best players in the league according to OTR, Durant is ranked 4th, ahead of CP3, and almost beat out Wade for 3rd. There was people in the MEDIA, who ride Kobe, saying that Durant may have surpassed him last season. I've seen a number of people say they'd take him over LBJ right now. So yes, people are making these claims.

 

Secondly, who cares if he's only 22? Who cares if he's down to Earth and humble? It's like LBJ all over again, with people anointing him to be something he still hasn't shown he can be yet. I am not saying he can't be what some envision him as, but his play over the last year does not warrant the amount of hype he's been receiving.

[moeroadkill]

you lost me with that quote... Durant isn't .2 assists away from being top 3 in assists.

 

Durant is behind other SF's LBJ (7.3), Andre Iguodala (5.7) , and Stephen Jackson (4.3). one of those guys would have to not be a 'SF' for Durant to be only .2 assists from 3rd. otherwise he is 1.3 behind 3rd.

 

EDIT: well NVM. Stephen Jackson, who is an inch shorter than Durant and an inch taller than teammate Gerald Wallace technically qualifies as a SG since that is where he has been getting all his starts this year...

 

james 7.3

iggy 5.7

Dwright 3.2

melo 3.2

peirce 3.1

durant 3.0

[moeroadkill]

he took a 23 win team to a 50 win season. at aged 21 there is no doubt going to be some hype around him but does that make him overrated? hell no

what hype has he been getting? that otr voted him top 4th

that GM's voted him being favorite for mvp this season?

if he was being overrated do you think that nba would put him on the 'race to mvp'? he hasnt even made the list once yet. probably not even a honorable mention and westbrook has

[Nitro]

he took a 23 win team to a 50 win season. at aged 21 there is no doubt going to be some hype around him but does that make him overrated? hell no

 

Yes, if you receive considerably more hype than you are currently worth, that puts you in the "overrated" category. And last season he also had Westbrook tearing it up, Green playing extremely well, and a solid, motivated, young supporting cast who bought into the coach's gameplan. It was an impressive showing by Durant, but it doesn't warrant him being a top 5 player in this league as far too many anoint him to be, and it doesn't warrant all these insane hype he's been receiving. There may be a few other players who may be more overrated in terms of their hype in relation to their productivity, but because the media and fans magnify Durant so much, it stands out so much more.

 

what hype has he been getting? that otr voted him top 4th

 

That same type of mindset is the same as the majority of the NBA media/fan population. As I said, there were analysts that were saying he maybe had passed Kobe last season. Kenny Smith said he was the 3rd best player in the league over the summer. Many, many people were acting like he was the 2nd coming of Jordan after the World Championships. To put him on Kobe/Wade/James' level is embarrassing, and I think it is quite far-fetched to call him a better player than CP3/Howard/Williams.

 

that GM's voted him being favorite for mvp this season?

 

Yep.

 

if he was being overrated do you think that nba would put him on the 'race to mvp'? he hasnt even made the list once yet. probably not even a honorable mention and westbrook has

 

I don't keep up with their race to the MVP rankings, but he hasn't deserved a mention...he's been very inefficient scoring the ball this season, has more turnovers than assists, and IMO Westbrook has clearly had a better season thus far (including carrying them to wins with Durant out).

[moeroadkill]

and how exactly is coming 2nd in mvp voting, was named First Team All-NBA in his 3rd year, making the all star team, being the youngest scoring champ in the history of the nba (like it or not, he is), leading his team to a 50 win season, surprising a lot of people by taking the NBA defending champs to 6 games loosing by a putback, having a streak of 25+ points in 29 consecutive games then being the leader of Team USA while averaging 28ppg at a very high clip, receiving more hype than his worth

 

That same type of mindset is the same as the majority of the NBA media/fan population. As I said, there were analysts that were saying he maybe had passed Kobe last season. Kenny Smith said he was the 3rd best player in the league over the summer. Many, many people were acting like he was the 2nd coming of Jordan after the World Championships. To put him on Kobe/Wade/James' level is embarrassing, and I think it is quite far-fetched to call him a better player than CP3/Howard/Williams.

 

kenny said that in three years from now he will be.. he didnt say he was the 3rd best player now. if he did i couldn't find it anywhere you might have that mixed up.. which that statement is really not that far fetched, 3 year kobe will be done. wade will be, what? 32? 31? years old lebron will still be 28-29 and Durant will be 25-26 coming into his own (bearing no serious injuries of course)

[fish7718]

Dwight Howard, quite easily too

[*Swish*]

LMAO insert the name Bosh there instead of Kevin Durant and all of that still holds true

nobody said Chris Bosh is better than Kobe, Wade, Melo, LeBron or even Durant......

[Nitro]

and how exactly is coming 2nd in mvp voting, was named First Team All-NBA in his 3rd year, making the all star team, being the youngest scoring champ in the history of the nba (like it or not, he is), leading his team to a 50 win season, surprising a lot of people by taking the NBA defending champs to 6 games loosing by a putback, having a streak of 25+ points in 29 consecutive games then being the leader of Team USA while averaging 28ppg at a very high clip, receiving more hype than his worth

 

Because he still is not a better player than a number of superstars that people claim he is better than, he is not a top 5 caliber player yet, besides scoring he does not make a significant impact on the game (Kobe/Wade/LeBron/Howard/Paul/Williams make a significant impact in at least 2 areas of the game, so if their scoring is taken away, they can still help dominate a game), and this season and in the series against the Lakers he wasn't even the best player on his own team. He's also being anointed as a player that he currently is not, with the reasoning always being, "He's the youngest scoring champ ever. He's humble. He almost upset the Lakers." All that is fine, but right now Wade/LeBron/Kobe/Williams/Paul/Howard have all gotten their teams further in the post-season, 3 of them can also win the scoring title while having much better overall games and the other 3 can be equally dominant as Durant is with his scoring in different areas (Paul/Williams with their playmaking, Howard with his defense), and to put it plainly Durant is simply not on their level yet.

 

kenny said that in three years from now he will be.. he didnt say he was the 3rd best player now. if he did i couldn't find it anywhere you might have that mixed up.. which that statement is really not that far fetched, 3 year kobe will be done. wade will be, what? 32? 31? years old lebron will still be 28-29 and Durant will be 25-26 coming into his own (bearing no serious injuries of course)

 

I'm too lazy to find the quote, but I'm 95% sure he said Durant was already the 3rd best player in the league.

[Check my Stats]

The problem with what people expect from Bosh is that he isn't at his best playing off others and finishing off the screen and roll or pop, which is something that Amare, for example, is terrific at. People thought he is a different player than he is I guess, which kind of skewed their expectations. Bosh is at his best when he gets it on the block and takes it to the hole, that opens up his jumper and so on, maybe that isn't ideal but it is what it is.

 

If LBJ doesn't go to Miami Bosh is probably averaging around 23-24 PPG on 50% and his name is not dropped in a thread like this. He is still getting 18 PPG on a shade over 50% which is pretty good for a guy who is the 3rd option offensively. I will agree though that his rebounding has been absolutely unacceptable this year. I don't know what it is, since I haven't watched them much, but his rebounding numbers are pathetic.

 

To call Bosh overrated is kind of crazy unless you thought he was a superstar, he is still playing at pretty much an all-star level as the 3rd option offensively which is pretty solid.

Edited December 19, 2010 by Check my Stats

[theonethatownz]

I'll go with Tyreke Evans.

 

His jay is bad. He's barely got any J. His defense is average but he succeeds in cutting to the basket but I think in three years he'll be no better then Brandon Roy. I think he might of peaked early.

[Nitro]

The problem with what people expect from Bosh is that he isn't at his best playing off others and finishing off the screen and roll or pop, which is something that Amare, for example, is terrific at. People thought he is a different player than he is I guess, which kind of skewed their expectations. Bosh is at his best when he gets it on the block and takes it to the hole, that opens up his jumper and so on, maybe that isn't ideal but it is what it is.

 

I think since earlier in the season Bosh has really excelled as a guy who can play off LeBron/Wade. His midrange jumper is absolutely money, and he is getting a lot of opportunities to nail that shot this season. He's still getting iso's, and still doing well in the face-up game, but obviously Bosh iso's aren't going to be a focal point in an offense with 2 of the 3 best players in the world on the roster. Because a major portion of his game is now more perimeter oriented than in past years, and because he's working harder on defense, he just doesn't have as many rebounding opportunities as in year's past. Still, he should be grabbing more than 8 boards per game, which has been his average since October.

[Erick Blasco]

Adding to the Durant discussion...he had an AWFUL playoff series considering how he's the the supposedly fourth best player in the league, and he still has trouble against defenders who really bump and bang him. He had four games against the Lakers where he shot .357% or worse, including a magnificent 5-23 at home in an elimination game. That's not good enough for a guy who is only an average passer.

 

Can we see him do something in the playoffs before anointing him?

 

Of the other players, Tyreke Evans is a good choice, nobody really thinks Rashard Lewis is a max player (though you can argue the spacing he's allowed Orlando's offense has been max-worthy for what they try to do), and Chris Bosh's public opinion has mercifully dropped thanks to Miami's mediocre start so he's no longer overrated,

[Multi-Billionaire]

Al Jefferson

Jonny Flynn

Rudy Fernandez

James Harden

[Newman]

Durant is a great player...he just suffers from extremely high expectations and hence why he is overrated despite being that good of a player.

 

I am going with Tyreke, by the way. I didn't think he was a great player last year, I certainly don't think so this year, not until he make baskets consistently outside the paint area.