reno Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 Lets say you were rebuilding the lakers team ground up, none of the current players/coach will be on the team. That said, if you could have one of either player, play at the high intensity of their season best, for each season for the next 15 years, who would you pick and why? Would it be the Shaq Attack, or The Black Mamba? Kobes best season stats was his 05-06 2005–06 L.A. Lakers 80 80 41.0mpg .450fg% .347 3p% .850ft% 5.3rbg 4.5apg 1.8spg .4bpg 35.4ppg Shaqs Best season stats was his 99-00 season1999–00 L.A. Lakers 79 79 40.0 mpg .574 fg% .0003p% .524ft% 13.6 rbg 3.8asg .5spg 3.0bpg 29.7ppg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Penny Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 give me Shaq. with the state of bigmen in the NBA today he would obliterate everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfish Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 (edited) Kobe. Prime Kobe imo is the best player to play the game (not saying Kobe is the GOAT, but in their prime no one was better). I dont think people really understand what he did that season (actually for 2-3 years). He was facing double triple teams that entire season, managed to get 35 a night on 45 % efficiency. His starting lineups consisted of Smush Parker, Kwame Brown, Luke Walton, Lamar Odom, and Chris Mihm, and the bench was just as awful. As someone who watched just about every game that season and was present at Staples the night he scored 62, I dont think a basketball player can be anymore dominant then he was in his prime. No matter how many defenders were threw at him he would sink fadeaways over them, or manage to get to the rim and at the time he had great athleticism. 62, 81, the 40 ppg in Januar speak for themselves. Also at one point he made like 60 something straight free throws if I remember correctly. Prime Shaq was dominant too but if you give Kobe ANY sort of help in his prime then he probably makes the finals easily (took the 2nd seed to 7 games with Smush and Kwame). Edited December 18, 2010 by kingfish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JYD Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 Jordan in his prime was better then Kobe...sorry Kingfish ^ And see, the problem is, in today's NBA I think I'd take Kobe, but in the NBA 10 years ago, I'd have taken Shaq in his prime. The game is just a faster paced, more up and down tempo that's suited better for a top guard then it is a top huge center. back in the games that were 83-79 finals i would've taken shaq, but now in the games that are settled in the 100's i'd rather have kobe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted December 18, 2010 Owner Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 Bryant because he would more than likely stay with the franchise for his entire career, and the duration of his prime is longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YugoRocketsFan Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 Shaq in prime because he was just a beast and would get more wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRV Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 Well a prime Kobe can be found in the NBA today. Guys have the same talents as him, just couldn't put the championships together to top it off. Shaq however, is one of a kind. A prime Shaq can dominate all centers in the NBA today, where a prime Kobe today would be in the "who is the best player" topic mixed in with Lebron, Durant, Wade, and all those guys. I am going to get a bunch of stats thrown at me to show Kobe is the best of all time, and how guys in the NBA today blow compared to him in his prime, but thats just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Swish* Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 Depends if you need a prime Kobe or a prime Shaq.. I mean.. If you need a center you take shaq and if you need a SG you take Kobe.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawks Fly High Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 I feel like Shaq would give a lot of immediate success, but in 5-6 years his effect would be reduced greatly where he could no longer be the #1 option on a team. Kobe would have some trouble in the start, but has soon as he hit the top its probably going to be really hard to bring him down as seen by recent Nba seasons. If Kobe is just provided a solid big man he can reap the benefits with many, many championships. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawks Fly High Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 Depends if you need a prime Kobe or a prime Shaq.. I mean.. If you need a center you take shaq and if you need a SG you take Kobe..If you are rebuilding it means that you need anything and everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Swish* Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 If you are rebuilding it means that you need anything and everything.I'd take Kobe Bryant then. Hard question but I'm taking Kobe Bryant. Love his mentality off and on the court, athleticism and all that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reno Posted December 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 But like ive said, since both players would be playing at their peak levels for 15 years straight, and would stay with the team.. I would pick Shaq, no contest. Cant really go wrong with either players, but even a prime kobe he would still be amidst in the talks of a prime lbj/wade/durant and any other upcoming stars. Its so hard to find a dominant big man in today's nba, where its a lot easier to find a serviceable shooting guard. Having a prime shaq play at prime levels for 15 years would just be insane. No one would be able to stop him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 Shaq. I'll take the most dominant force of all time any day in his prime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted December 19, 2010 Owner Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 But like ive said, since both players would be playing at their peak levels for 15 years straight, and would stay with the team.. I would pick Shaq, no contest. Cant really go wrong with either players, but even a prime kobe he would still be amidst in the talks of a prime lbj/wade/durant and any other upcoming stars. Its so hard to find a dominant big man in today's nba, where its a lot easier to find a serviceable shooting guard. Having a prime shaq play at prime levels for 15 years would just be insane. No one would be able to stop him.That's unfair. Shaq would never be able to put up his prime numbers for 15 years. Very unrealistic. If that was the case, anyone and everyone would choose him over every single player in the NBA since 1980. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloo Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 Shaq of course.. you don't find dominating centers nowadays. Everyone is a shooting guard, small forward, etc.. But there are hardly any REAL dominating big men in this game anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clutch Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 shaq might be a lot easier to build around...but i think prime kobe would give u better chance long term Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lkr Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Agree with clutch, Shaq is easier to build around. Give me Shaq. He was too string and too fast for the entire league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newman Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Shaq had been dominant for 10 years...Kobe has been dominant for around 10 as well so that's equal. Since you can't teach height, I am going with Shaq. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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