Mavericks Could Have Iguodala, Jackson On Radar

[MainEv3nt]

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The Mavericks are still trying to decide whether they need to replace Caron Butler, who was lost to a season-ending knee injury this week.

 

If Mark Cuban and Donnie Nelson decide they need to add a piece prior to the trade deadline Philadelphia's Andre Iguodala and Charlotte's Stephen Jackson are expected to be options.

 

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[Guest STL10]

I'd rather have Jackson. He is a MUCH BETTER scorer than Iggy.

[Nestle Snipes]

I wonder what they'd give up for Jack?

[ballorama]

I want Iggy.. he's a more do it all player.. Jax jacks up 3's alot.

[deestillballin]

I want Iggy.. he's a more do it all player.. Jax jacks up 3's alot.

 

 

This right here. I hope we make a move soon, we need the help.

[ChosenOne]

Iggy would be a far better pick up, yeah he aint the scorer that SJax is but Mavs really dont need another scorer.

[*Swish*]

Evan Turner finally had a good game yesterday night and finished with 19 points. Doesn't mean anything but I think the 76ers are on the way to trade Iguodala because, even though they're doing fine, I think they want to trade Iggy and have Evan Turner running the show being their franchise player. I really don't see Iggy as a Mavericks. He wouldn't fit with them. Especially with Butler and Nowitzki... but we never know

[Nitro]

Honestly, it all depends on what the asking price is for each player. I am not sure what each of their contracts look like, but Jackson is 32 while Iguodala is only 25, so that is a big difference. Iguodala is slightly better in pretty much all facets of the game (except maybe scoring, but the difference is minimal), but either would be a fine replacement for Butler; Jackson for the short-term, Iguodala for the long-term. I am a little skeptical about Iguodala's ability to play off-ball, which he would have to develop playing alongside Kidd, but I do think his athleticism, defense and all-around ability would be a nice fit.

Edited January 11, 2011 by Nitro

[ChosenOne]

Evan Turner finally had a good game yesterday night and finished with 19 points. Doesn't mean anything but I think the 76ers are on the way to trade Iguodala because, even though they're doing fine, I think they want to trade Iggy and have Evan Turner running the show being their franchise player. I really don't see Iggy as a Mavericks. He wouldn't fit with them. Especially with Butler and Nowitzki... but we never know

 

First off Butler is out for year so that would be no issue. And second off why would Iggy not fit, he is a very unselfish player, scores just like if not better that Butler and definately plays better defense than anyone on the entire Mavs squad. So why would he not work?

[Nitro]

And second off why would Iggy not fit, he is a very unselfish player, scores just like if not better that Butler and definately plays better defense than anyone on the entire Mavs squad.

 

Tyson Chandler says hi.

 

So why would he not work?

 

Not to speak for Swish, but as I said in my last post, the one concern I have about Iggy on the Mavs is his ability to play off-ball. With a guy like Kidd running the offense, he will need to find ways to score moving off-ball, and with his sketchy jumper I don't know if his all-around offensive play will be utilized as well as it can. With that said, I do think his athleticism, ability to run the floor, and defense alone would be a nice addition, and his halfcourt offense does have some potential in that system.

[ChosenOne]

Tyson Chandler says hi.

 

 

 

Not to speak for Swish, but as I said in my last post, the one concern I have about Iggy on the Mavs is his ability to play off-ball. With a guy like Kidd running the offense, he will need to find ways to score moving off-ball, and with his sketchy jumper I don't know if his all-around offensive play will be utilized as well as it can. With that said, I do think his athleticism, ability to run the floor, and defense alone would be a nice addition, and his halfcourt offense does have some potential in that system.

 

Well yeah he is not perfect lol, but when you are comparing him to SJax I think Iggy would be better suited.

[Nitro]

Well yeah he is not perfect lol, but when you are comparing him to SJax I think Iggy would be better suited.

 

Eh, I'd say they are about equally suited this season. Iggy is a slightly better slasher, playmaker, rebounder and clearly a better defender, but Jackson is better at moving off-ball and hitting the spot-up jumper. He also has experience in playing on some good playoff teams (including a championship in his third season with the Spurs), while Iggy is relatively unproven in meaningful games.

 

With that said, it all comes down to the asking price of each.

[ChosenOne]

Eh, I'd say they are about equally suited this season. Iggy is a slightly better slasher, playmaker, rebounder and clearly a better defender, but Jackson is better at moving off-ball and hitting the spot-up jumper. He also has experience in playing on some good playoff teams (including a championship in his third season with the Spurs), while Iggy is relatively unproven in meaningful games.

 

With that said, it all comes down to the asking price of each.

 

Yeah but the Mavs really dont need another big time scorer either. I think if they can get a good defender to make it tough on stars like Kobe, Durant, and even Manu it would be better suited for the Mavs especially in the playoffs.

 

I personally think giving up 4 points is worth it.

[Nitro]

Yeah but the Mavs really dont need another big time scorer either. I think if they can get a good defender to make it tough on stars like Kobe, Durant, and even Manu it would be better suited for the Mavs especially in the playoffs.

 

I personally think giving up 4 points is worth it.

 

As I said, Iggy is probably the better option, but the difference is minimal. Iggy can be a very good defender when he wants to be, but not lightyears better than Jackson. I wouldn't consider either a big-time scorer, and offensively there isn't too much of a difference between the two (Iggy slightly better playmaker, Jackson slightly better scorer). I do think offensively that Jackson might be a little better fit, where as defensively Iggy is clearly a better fit.

 

It all comes down to their future plans for Butler, and what the asking price is for Iggy and Jackson. Jackson will probably come cheaper, while Iggy can be a guy they build around along with Dirk.

[*Swish*]

First off Butler is out for year so that would be no issue. And second off why would Iggy not fit, he is a very unselfish player, scores just like if not better that Butler and definately plays better defense than anyone on the entire Mavs squad. So why would he not work?

oh my bad... so I think the 76ers should try and acquire him so they get more cap space during off season

[Dash]

Honestly, it all depends on what the asking price is for each player. I am not sure what each of their contracts look like, but Jackson is 32 while Iguodala is only 25, so that is a big difference. Iguodala is slightly better in pretty much all facets of the game (except maybe scoring, but the difference is minimal), but either would be a fine replacement for Butler; Jackson for the short-term, Iguodala for the long-term. I am a little skeptical about Iguodala's ability to play off-ball, which he would have to develop playing alongside Kidd, but I do think his athleticism, defense and all-around ability would be a nice fit.

 

Agreed with everything you posted but weren't there questions about whether Butler can perform at a strong level without the ball constantly in his hands? He's certainly not playing at an all-star level like he did a few years ago but overall he's done a fine job playing next to Dirk and Kidd. I think we could expect similar things from Andre Iguodala (if the Mavs do acquire him) but I will admit that Iggy is more ball dominant than Butler (at least from footage I've seen) and will probably have a tougher time making the adjustment.

[Nitro]

Agreed with everything you posted but weren't there questions about whether Butler can perform at a strong level without the ball constantly in his hands? He's certainly not playing at an all-star level like he did a few years ago but overall he's done a fine job playing next to Dirk and Kidd. I think we could expect similar things from Andre Iguodala (if the Mavs do acquire him) but I will admit that Iggy is more ball dominant than Butler (at least from footage I've seen) and will probably have a tougher time making the adjustment.

 

You are right, but Butler's primary function with the Mavs is being an isolation scorer, which IMO he does better than Iggy. He also was shooting over 40% from 3 this season, which is something I don't think Iggy could manage. Iggy does not score as well as Butler does in isolation; he's more of an all-around playmaker (for himself and teammates), but with Kidd already on the roster, how much would that help the team?

[Dash]

You are right, but Butler's primary function with the Mavs is being an isolation scorer, which IMO he does better than Iggy. He also was shooting over 40% from 3 this season, which is something I don't think Iggy could manage. Iggy does not score as well as Butler does in isolation; he's more of an all-around playmaker (for himself and teammates), but with Kidd already on the roster, how much would that help the team?

 

I think you hit the nail on the head when you said Stephen Jackson is for the short-term and Iggy is for the long-term. Stephen Jackson has been inconsistent down in Charlotte and a mediocre three point shooter, but he can score in bunches when its his night. He can play offball better than Iggy and brings just about everything the Mavericks are missing from Caron Butler plus a bigger frame and defensive capabilities. Jackson will probably come at a much cheaper price too considering that he's 32 years old (will turn 33 in April) and has a less than favorable contract (he gets paid $10 million when he turns 35).

 

Assuming that the Mavericks will want Rodrigue Beaubois to develop into a capable starting point guard after Jason Kidd retires, a young point forward like Iggy would be ideal to have running the offense. He's not the scorer Jackson is but like you said, Iggy has a much better all-around game than Jackson and will probably keep the Mavs in contention longer.

 

My verdict: get Stephen Jackson, he fits the bill better than Iggy and will likely cost Mark Cuban less to acquire. With Jason Kidd in the lineup, I'm assuming all chips are in and its probably in the best interest of the Mavericks to try and win a championship prior to Kidd's retirement.

[The Truth]

you gotta go for Jackson. Iggy would cost them expiring contracts, young talents, and picks whereas Jackson would only cost them expiring contracts and maybe a pick. considering Jackson's deal, I wouldn't be surprised if Jordan shipped him out for say, Butler and a pick. it may sound ridiculous, but that [expletive] would save Mike like, twenty million big ones.