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if your coach would actually play him a single second out of the game, maybe you'd feel differently.

There's a reason he's not playing; he sucks.

 

You don't think D'antoni would like to play Randolph? If anything just to increase his trade value.

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obviously he doesn't, or else he would.

LOL. Do you know anything about basketball bro? You're not going to play a guy who can not contribute and is a major project when the team is actually playing for something. Maybe if the Knicks were 5-35 they'd play this guy and see if he can develop. He's played enough (pre season mostly) and they do have practices you know to show the coaches if he's worthy of getting into the rotation. Hell, the rotation isn't very deep...so obviously D'antoni is not high on him if he doesn't even play in the Knicks rotation, which has no depth.

 

He's played and he's been awful. Why that should be stuck in a rotation for a team battling for their playoff lives; you tell me?

Lol, exactly.

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he deserves much more of a chance than what D'Antoni's giving him, but it's cool. he'll get traded and show you guys what's up. I was thinking Jamison would be great for Indiana, but Randolph would be even better.

Of course, in any [expletive]ty situation the guy can put up some decent numbers, which I'm sure he'd do. He is 7 feet and athletic as hell, he'll get his garbage points. He'll never been a good player in the league, he's going to be a bum that bounces around and teams take a chance on him because of his size and athleticism, that's all.

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how do you know he'll never be a good player? how much of him have you honestly seen? I bet he hasn't played in a month. it's one thing to judge a player who gets lots of minutes, but this is something completely different. I realize the Knicks are doing well this year, but never playing Randolph is foolish. I mean, it's not like they're already stacked with big men. they better hope Ronny sticks around or else they're gonna be real thin at the five spot.

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how do you know he'll never be a good player? how much of him have you honestly seen? I bet he hasn't played in a month. it's one thing to judge a player who gets lots of minutes, but this is something completely different. I realize the Knicks are doing well this year, but never playing Randolph is foolish. I mean, it's not like they're already stacked with big men. they better hope Ronny sticks around or else they're gonna be real thin at the five spot.

 

If he understood the basic concepts the Knicks run, he'd get playing time. With his athleticism and the Knicks lack of size, they'd give him run if he warranted it. But he doesn't understand five-man basketball concepts so he's not going to play. When he does play he's lost on both ends. The Knicks aren't in the mood for developing projects. They actually believe they can make a little bit of noise. Playing young, mistake-prone projects is foolish, especially when the Knicks need harmony on both ends to be successful.

 

One thing about this Knicks team, aside from Douglas and Williams, the Knicks are a very high offensive IQ team. Stoudemire's a bit more aware, and Chandler, Felton, and Fields are incredibly smart. Playing Randolph only jeopardizes that.

 

And if Ronnie goes down, the Knicks plug Williams in as the backup five. If he goes down, Stoudemire's in terrific shape to play 40 minutes, and the Knicks would probably move Wilson Chandler to the center and play ultra small. With the way they shoot, it's not the worst strategy.

 

There are reasons why none of the Knicks fans in this thread are disappointed to see Randolph go.

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he deserves much more of a chance than what D'Antoni's Don Nelson is giving him, but it's cool. he'll get traded and show you guys what's up.

 

Circa 2009.

 

The 2011-2012 version will be...

he deserves much more of a chance than what Kurt Rambis is giving him, but it's cool. he'll get traded and show you guys what's up.

 

...when the T-Wolves discuss trading him.

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If he understood the basic concepts the Knicks run, he'd get playing time. With his athleticism and the Knicks lack of size, they'd give him run if he warranted it. But he doesn't understand five-man basketball concepts so he's not going to play. When he does play he's lost on both ends. The Knicks aren't in the mood for developing projects. They actually believe they can make a little bit of noise. Playing young, mistake-prone projects is foolish, especially when the Knicks need harmony on both ends to be successful.

 

One thing about this Knicks team, aside from Douglas and Williams, the Knicks are a very high offensive IQ team. Stoudemire's a bit more aware, and Chandler, Felton, and Fields are incredibly smart. Playing Randolph only jeopardizes that.

 

And if Ronnie goes down, the Knicks plug Williams in as the backup five. If he goes down, Stoudemire's in terrific shape to play 40 minutes, and the Knicks would probably move Wilson Chandler to the center and play ultra small. With the way they shoot, it's not the worst strategy.

 

There are reasons why none of the Knicks fans in this thread are disappointed to see Randolph go.

what I'm getting from this is that you'd rather play Stat forty minutes a game than let Randolph get in there at all. tiring out the team's best player well before the postseason is a better option than giving Randolph a chance to prove himself for once in his Knicks career. in fact, you don't even want them to play Randolph even if Ronny AND Williams go down. that makes no sense to me at all, sorry.

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Am I the only dude who thought this was about Melo before clicking the thread?

 

Anyway, I hope he goes to Indiana or Portland. I thought that the Knicks would have fitted him like a baseball in a glove though. :unsure:

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how do you know he'll never be a good player? how much of him have you honestly seen? I bet he hasn't played in a month. it's one thing to judge a player who gets lots of minutes, but this is something completely different. I realize the Knicks are doing well this year, but never playing Randolph is foolish. I mean, it's not like they're already stacked with big men. they better hope Ronny sticks around or else they're gonna be real thin at the five spot.

I know we're thin at the 4/5. You're right. That just shows how poor Randolph has been in practices/training camp/pre-season. To not even get a look at this point in the season illustrates how little he can play.

 

Look, I'd love for Randolph to prove me wrong. You act like I have a personal vendetta against him. He's just being severely overrated because of his 'potential.' But at what point does 'potential' become 'bust?'

 

If he understood the basic concepts the Knicks run, he'd get playing time. With his athleticism and the Knicks lack of size, they'd give him run if he warranted it. But he doesn't understand five-man basketball concepts so he's not going to play. When he does play he's lost on both ends. The Knicks aren't in the mood for developing projects. They actually believe they can make a little bit of noise. Playing young, mistake-prone projects is foolish, especially when the Knicks need harmony on both ends to be successful.

 

One thing about this Knicks team, aside from Douglas and Williams, the Knicks are a very high offensive IQ team. Stoudemire's a bit more aware, and Chandler, Felton, and Fields are incredibly smart. Playing Randolph only jeopardizes that.

 

And if Ronnie goes down, the Knicks plug Williams in as the backup five. If he goes down, Stoudemire's in terrific shape to play 40 minutes, and the Knicks would probably move Wilson Chandler to the center and play ultra small. With the way they shoot, it's not the worst strategy.

 

There are reasons why none of the Knicks fans in this thread are disappointed to see Randolph go.

Good points.

 

what I'm getting from this is that you'd rather play Stat forty minutes a game than let Randolph get in there at all. tiring out the team's best player well before the postseason is a better option than giving Randolph a chance to prove himself for once in his Knicks career. in fact, you don't even want them to play Randolph even if Ronny AND Williams go down. that makes no sense to me at all, sorry.

You don't watch the Knicks obviously, so you might as well just stop posting in the thread. You don't see me talking out of my [expletive] about the Heat in their forum, do you?

 

Am I the only dude who thought this was about Melo before clicking the thread?

 

Anyway, I hope he goes to Indiana or Portland. I thought that the Knicks would have fitted him like a baseball in a glove though. :unsure:

 

Lol, Yeah...I thought it was about Melo too.

 

And, Yeah, the Knicks system is supposed to fit him. That just shows how bad he's been.

 

I'd love for the guy to prove me wrong. Hell, with how much potential everyone claims he has if he ever turned into something he might be the next Lamar Odom. Wouldn't mind that in D'antoni's system. But he's obviously not shown anything to the coaching staff, or else they'd DEFINITELY be giving him a chance (if anything to show case his abilities to be traded!)

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what I'm getting from this is that you'd rather play Stat forty minutes a game than let Randolph get in there at all. tiring out the team's best player well before the postseason is a better option than giving Randolph a chance to prove himself for once in his Knicks career. in fact, you don't even want them to play Randolph even if Ronny AND Williams go down. that makes no sense to me at all, sorry.

 

Randolph's had months of practice to prove himself and hasn't done so. Shawne Williams earned playing time in practice and has made the most of his introduction to the rotation. That's where playing time is first earned.

 

Stoudemire is in phenomenal shape. He can survive a short term run of 40 minutes per game, and there are always stretch bigs the Knicks can pick off the scrap heap over Randolph.

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Stoudemire is in phenomenal shape. He can survive a short term run of 40 minutes per game, and there are always stretch bigs the Knicks can pick off the scrap heap over Randolph.

 

Exactly...in D'Antoni's head, that person is Wilson Chandler :lol:

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I know we're thin at the 4/5. You're right. That just shows how poor Randolph has been in practices/training camp/pre-season. To not even get a look at this point in the season illustrates how little he can play.

 

Look, I'd love for Randolph to prove me wrong. You act like I have a personal vendetta against him. He's just being severely overrated because of his 'potential.' But at what point does 'potential' become 'bust?'

how could he be overrated when he never even plays?

 

Randolph's had months of practice to prove himself and hasn't done so. Shawne Williams earned playing time in practice and has made the most of his introduction to the rotation. That's where playing time is first earned.

 

Stoudemire is in phenomenal shape. He can survive a short term run of 40 minutes per game, and there are always stretch bigs the Knicks can pick off the scrap heap over Randolph.

Stat's already averaging over 37 mpg as it is; I don't get why you'd want to work him even harder. this team is trying to go deep into the playoffs and giving Stat that many minutes is just going to screw with their chances.

 

everyone's criticizing Randolph's play, but dude never plays. how could you judge him if he never even gets a chance to prove himself? I think you guys just assume that because he's not in the rotation, he must not be a good player. that's not necessarily the case. D'Antoni likes small rotations, so that automatically limits Randolph's chances of getting in the game. I also read an article awhile ago about how Randolph complained to the media about not getting playing time. obviously, D'Antoni took exception because he made statements back to the media in response to Randolph's comments. but like I said, it doesn't matter. they'll trade him and he'll prove himself elsewhere.

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