Legacy Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 I wrote an article about this a while ago, but it seems to be more and more true especially this season. Almost every legit team in this league has a point guard that is a star and that dominates their team. Rose, Rondo, and Westbrook are three of the point guards that are emerging quickly. We already had Paul and Williams beasting, and John Wall looks like he will be a superstar on a good team one day as well. For how long will we see point guards dominate the league before it turns back into a "big man" game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfish Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 http://www.otrbasketball.com/forums/topic/20476-is-the-point-guard-position-the-best-its-ever-been/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 At the moment, yes. Right now the league is saturated with strong PG play like never before. They aren't even prototypical PG's, but they are a new breed with crazy athleticism and all-around ability. Guys like Paul, Williams, Rose and Westbrook all are very well-rounded players that can run an offense, score at elite volume, rebound the ball and defend well. We are witnessing a revolution in that regard, just like the '90's with big men, and the early '00's with explosive, well-rounded wing players. Eventually we will see a new wave of players that revolutionize a certain area of the game, but I don't think it will be in an old-fashioned sense; meaning, we will continue to see players of all positions becoming more well-rounded, and being developed in ways that players of the past weren't. But, these waves happen, so let's enjoy this current crop of PG talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Blasco Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 At the moment, yes. Right now the league is saturated with strong PG play like never before. They aren't even prototypical PG's, but they are a new breed with crazy athleticism and all-around ability. Guys like Paul, Williams, Rose and Westbrook all are very well-rounded players that can run an offense, score at elite volume, rebound the ball and defend well. We are witnessing a revolution in that regard, just like the '90's with big men, and the early '00's with explosive, well-rounded wing players. Eventually we will see a new wave of players that revolutionize a certain area of the game, but I don't think it will be in an old-fashioned sense; meaning, we will continue to see players of all positions becoming more well-rounded, and being developed in ways that players of the past weren't. But, these waves happen, so let's enjoy this current crop of PG talent. Let's not damper a good post by saying things like Russell Westbrook knows how to run an offense. Here's Westbrook's mindset. Is Kevin Durant wide open coming off a wing brush screen or down screen? If yes throw him the ball. If not, gotta go launch myself at the basket, maybe after a screen. This isn't to say he's selfish, or doesn't pass, or is Allen Iverson reincarnate, but he isn't exactly a point guard. Westbrook is a very talented ball-dominant shooting guard playing the point but his limits in running an offense hold the Thunder back. He's not as advanced as say a Brandon Jennings or a Derrick Rose or even an Aaron Brooks. Which actually underscores your point even more in that there ARE so many well-rounded point guards that can run an offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 Let's not damper a good post by saying things like Russell Westbrook knows how to run an offense. Here's Westbrook's mindset. Is Kevin Durant wide open coming off a wing brush screen or down screen? If yes throw him the ball. If not, gotta go launch myself at the basket, maybe after a screen. This isn't to say he's selfish, or doesn't pass, or is Allen Iverson reincarnate, but he isn't exactly a point guard. Westbrook is a very talented ball-dominant shooting guard playing the point but his limits in running an offense hold the Thunder back. He's not as advanced as say a Brandon Jennings or a Derrick Rose or even an Aaron Brooks. Which actually underscores your point even more in that there ARE so many well-rounded point guards that can run an offense. I disagree, I think Westbrook is actually a decent passing PG. He's good off the pick-and-roll (he actually looks for the roller, which Rose doesn't always do, which was on display at the FIBA's) , and of course very good off dribble penetration. He can't run an offense like Williams, Paul, or Rondo do, but he's adequate. He's a more willing passer than a guy like Brooks, and Brooks can't play defense or rebound, which is why I didn't include him in that particular group of PG's (same with Rondo, who I didn't include because he can't score at volume). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Blasco Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 I disagree, I think Westbrook is actually a decent passing PG. He's good off the pick-and-roll (he actually looks for the roller, which Rose doesn't always do, which was on display at the FIBA's) , and of course very good off dribble penetration. He can't run an offense like Williams, Paul, or Rondo do, but he's adequate. He's a more willing passer than a guy like Brooks, and Brooks can't play defense or rebound, which is why I didn't include him in that particular group of PG's (same with Rondo, who I didn't include because he can't score at volume). Oh I agree with you, he's a talented and willing passer. He just doesn't know how to run an offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChosenOne Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 I believe PF's have take over the league, not the PG's. GriffinLoveDirkAmareDuncanGasolBosh Boozer KGSmithScolaRandolph Aldridge I dont think that list can be argued against. PF's run this league, but the PG's are a solid second. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted January 19, 2011 Owner Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 And, when the smoke clears, the Lakers are defending champs with Derek Fisher (lol) as the starting point guard...and, really, he's more of a two-guard. Hell, so is Blake. We don't even have a real point guard. But, yes...there are a lot of talented point guards out there, but keep an eye out for the PF's as well. Dirk, Amare, Garnett, Griffin, Gasol, Love, Boozer, Odom, Bosh, West, Aldridge, Duncan...a lot to talk about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted January 19, 2011 Owner Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 I believe PF's have take over the league, not the PG's. GriffinLoveDirkAmareDuncanGasolBosh Boozer KGSmithScolaRandolph Aldridge I dont think that list can be argued against. PF's run this league, but the PG's are a solid second.Haha. Good call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 I believe PF's have take over the league, not the PG's. GriffinLoveDirkAmareDuncanGasolBosh Boozer KGSmithScolaRandolph Aldridge I dont think that list can be argued against. PF's run this league, but the PG's are a solid second. True, but Duncan, Dirk, KG, Randolph, Amare, Bosh, Gasol and Boozer have all been around for awhile now. Rose, Rondo, Felton, Paul, Wall, Williams, Westbrook, Jennings, Brooks, and Collison all have 5 years or less of experience, with a bunch of them coming in the last 2-3 years. I think the PF wave started to fade out a bit in the mid-'00's, while the PG wave is still going strong. That's not to say that the league isn't saturated with strong PF play, because it is, but I think the PG craze is bigger at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChosenOne Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 True, but Duncan, Dirk, KG, Randolph, Amare, Bosh, Gasol and Boozer have all been around for awhile now. Rose, Rondo, Felton, Paul, Wall, Williams, Westbrook, Jennings, Brooks, and Collison all have 5 years or less of experience, with a bunch of them coming in the last 2-3 years. I think the PF wave started to fade out a bit in the mid-'00's, while the PG wave is still going strong. That's not to say that the league isn't saturated with strong PF play, because it is, but I think the PG craze is bigger at the moment. Yes they are but right now it is a PF league. Griffin - 21Love- 22Aldridge - 25Bosh - 25Smith 25Lee - 27 In say 2-3 years it will more than likely change to a PG's league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Swish* Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 We have a lot of talented big men in the league just as the chosenone named: Griffin - 21Love- 22Aldridge - 25Bosh - 25Smith 25Lee - 27 But right now, yeah the Point guard position is the most talented one in the NBA for sure. Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Derrick Rose, Rajon Rondo, Stephen Curry, Russell Westbrook, Tyreke Evans, John Wall, Darren Collison, Devin Harris, Raymond Felton, Brandon Jennings, Jameer Nelson, Jason Kidd, Tony Parker, Steve Nash, Andre Miller, Baron Davis, and Gilbert Arenas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChosenOne Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 We have a lot of talented big men in the league just as the chosenone named: Griffin - 21Love- 22Aldridge - 25Bosh - 25Smith 25Lee - 27 But right now, yeah the Point guard position is the most talented one in the NBA for sure. Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Derrick Rose, Rajon Rondo, Stephen Curry, Russell Westbrook, Tyreke Evans, John Wall, Darren Collison, Devin Harris, Raymond Felton, Brandon Jennings, Jameer Nelson, Jason Kidd, Tony Parker, Steve Nash, Andre Miller, Baron Davis, and Gilbert Arenas. Read the entire topic bro, right now bigs run this league. In a couple years the pg will take over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 Yes they are but right now it is a PF league. Griffin - 21Love- 22Aldridge - 25Bosh - 25Smith 25Lee - 27 In say 2-3 years it will more than likely change to a PG's league. Again, though, the topic is about who is currently taking over the league. And in the last 4-5 years, specifically the last 2-3 years, there has been a bigger influx of great PG's than there have been PF's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChosenOne Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 Again, though, the topic is about who is currently taking over the league. And in the last 4-5 years, specifically the last 2-3 years, there has been a bigger influx of great PG's than there have been PF's. Yeah I understand that but right now it still is a pf league, not pg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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