Sħãlïq™ Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 (edited) Kobe just one star defying aging curve http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2011/0128/pg2_u_nowbryall_576.jpg What do these three have in common? They've all managed to put off 'The Change'*. AGING STARSRS Min = regular season minutes; PL Min = playoff minutes; RS MPG = regular season minutes per game; PL MPG = playoffs minutes per game Player Games Playoffs RS Min PL Min RS MPG PL MPG SeasonsBryant 1067 198 38,887 7,811 36.5 39.4 14Allen 1067 101 39,535 3,987 37.1 39.5 14Nash 1057 118 33,055 4,228 31.3 35.8 14Nowitzki 956 103 34,980 4,301 36.6 41.8 12Pierce 929 101 34,480 4,032 37.1 39.9 12 http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/9954/almos.jpghttp://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/110128&sportCat=nba Who'll Be The First To Break Down? *Change = Season in which "The Change" in the player's productivity took place; Edited January 31, 2011 by Shaliq Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Check my Stats Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 All of them have a skill set to remain effective until they retire. They are all crafty, they can all shoot, and they are all smart players. If I had to pick one it'd probably be Nash. All the other guys can be at the least spot up shooters until they retire, and Nash has the heaviest work load by far in Phoenix. It is really quite amazing he continues to do what he does at his age and with how much offensive responsibility the team puts on him. All these guys are still a ways from being retired though, especially Kobe and Dirk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JYD Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 I'd say Kobe Bryant for two reasons... -He's played at a higher level longer than all of them. Obviously all the guys listed are very good, or great players, but Kobe is one of the best to ever play the game...So, he's probably the one to have the earliest fall from greatness just because we are so used to seeing him dominate and take over games.-His knees. I remember him saying earlier in the year his knee was only at like 60%? That's pretty rough. With all the nagging knee injuries this guy has had, I see him breaking down earlier than the other guys. But more because of reason 1^...because we are so used to seeing him as being so great...he'll probably be the one who takes the biggest turn soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted January 31, 2011 Owner Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 ESPN with the screw-up, again. Kobe has played less seasons than Nash and Allen, even though they were all drafted in 1996? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makaveli Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 I'd say Kobe Bryant for two reasons... -He's played at a higher level longer than all of them. Obviously all the guys listed are very good, or great players, but Kobe is one of the best to ever play the game...So, he's probably the one to have the earliest fall from greatness just because we are so used to seeing him dominate and take over games.-His knees. I remember him saying earlier in the year his knee was only at like 60%? That's pretty rough. With all the nagging knee injuries this guy has had, I see him breaking down earlier than the other guys. But more because of reason 1^...because we are so used to seeing him as being so great...he'll probably be the one who takes the biggest turn soon.I highly doubt Kobe is the one who's going to decline first. You saw what he did in 07-09 with messed up fingers on his shooting hand. Most NBA players would have had the surgery ASAP, but Kobe kept putting up great games, great numbers, great shots, great game-winners. He's averaging 25.5 ppg this season and he's putting that up in only 33 mpg (his lowest since his 2nd season in the NBA). People have been waiting for Kobe to start declining for a couple of years now, with all the mileage and injuries, but it just won't happen with the way he's taking care of his body. I expect him to go strong 3-5 more years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sħãlïq™ Posted January 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 ESPN with the screw-up, again. Kobe has played less seasons than Nash and Allen, even though they were all drafted in 1996? Yeah, I edited that. They are all tied at 14 seasons each. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JYD Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 I highly doubt Kobe is the one who's going to decline first. You saw what he did in 07-09 with messed up fingers on his shooting hand. Most NBA players would have had the surgery ASAP, but Kobe kept putting up great games, great numbers, great shots, great game-winners. He's averaging 25.5 ppg this season and he's putting that up in only 33 mpg (his lowest since his 2nd season in the NBA). People have been waiting for Kobe to start declining for a couple of years now, with all the mileage and injuries, but it just won't happen with the way he's taking care of his body. I expect him to go strong 3-5 more years.Yeah...I think he'll still be a good player in 3 years, I just don't think he'll be the games best anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lkr Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 I'll go with Nash because he is so old. Kobe will probably be second if not first because he has played more games than all of them. I think Allen can survive for a while just because he could play as a corner shooter for 10 more years if he wanted to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted February 2, 2011 Owner Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 Yeah, I'll stick with Nash, then Bryant...but it wouldn't surprise me if Bryant outlasted all of them outside of Dirk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sħãlïq™ Posted February 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 Yeah, I'll stick with Nash, then Bryant...but it wouldn't surprise me if Bryant outlasted all of them outside of Dirk.Bryant will for sure outlast Pierce and Allen, IMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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