Owner Real Deal Posted February 13, 2011 Owner Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 LeBron scored 51 this year so I think he could score 60 in a game but the best thing about this team is that he doesn't have to.Yeah, he has. Having to score 51 points to win a game by four points is any different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Oliver P Posted February 13, 2011 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Scottie Pippen was probably one of the more overrated to ever play the game as well - Good player for sure, but when you talk about someone that really benefited from playing alongside Jordan, his name instantly comes to mind. Scottie Pippen was nowhere near overrated. In 1994, the first year without Jordan, the Bulls ended the season as the sixth best team in the entire league with 55 wins (only two fewer than with Jordan the year before). The best record was 63 wins, second best 58, so the Bulls were definitely up there with the top teams in the NBA. In the playoffs the Bulls barely lost in game 7 against the Knicks. And this because of a call by Hue Hollins which is definitely one of the most controversial calls in the history of the league. I am a hardcore Knicks fans and was definitely the first one to be happy when we beat the Bulls but we just have to say things as they are... Without this call what would the Bulls have done ? They were defeated by the team who beat the Pacers and barely lost to the Rockets in seven games in the 94 Finals, so the Bulls could definitely have beat Indiana and beat the Rockets that year, there is no doubt about that. The Bulls just PROVED that they COULD win without Jordan, with Pippen as the first option that year. What were Pip's stats that year ? 22 PPG (49.1 FG%, 32 3pts%), 8.7 rbds, 5.6 APG, 2.9 SPG, 0.8 BPG. He had the most PPG, APG and SPG of the entire Bulls team, second in RPG and BPG. And the league leader in SPG. He was the All Star MVP and ended the season third for the season MVP. That year Pippen just showed the world of basketball how great a player he definitely was. The following year the Bulls had a lot of major changes in their team and they had no good inside player whatsoever. In fact Kukoc had to start as PF (something that he hated, Tony was a pure SF). Despite this definite lack of talent (Ron Harper was the starting SG and was totally lost in that team, he was nowhere near the great player he used to be and even nowhere near the player he was during the second three peat...) especially inside (they only had Longley, Wennington, and Perdue...) Pip managed to lead them to a positive record (34-31 and they were a playoffs team) before Jordan's return, considering his teammates it's definitely a hell of an accomplishment. Pippen's stats that year were 21.4 PPG (48 FG%, 34.5 3pts%), 8.1 RPG, 5.2 APG, 2.9 SPG and 1.1 BPG. He was the team leader in ALL those statistic categories, in the NBA history ONLY one other player did that as well, it was Dave Cowens in 78. Those two seasons are definitely among the greatest seasons that a player ever had in the history of the NBA. Pippen is also one of the very best defenders ever. He's certainly the best defensive SF ever, arguably the best defensive wing player ever. And also certailnly among the ten best defensive players in the history of the game. Pippen is definitely among the best players of the history of the game. There are only two SFs that were better than Pip, they were Bird and Erving. For the third best SF ever it's arguable between Pip, Wilkins and Baylor. But I would give the edge to Pip, especially because of his defense. Also I think that there's been a misunderstanding about what Pippen said here. Pip never said that James, Wade and Bosh were wrong to sign in the same team together or that he has any resentment toward LeBron... He said it very clearly here : "I just felt it was an insult to every team that’s played in this League to think that one team can be put together, and now all of a sudden we got—excuse my word—a jackass like Jeff Van Gundy saying they can win 72 games and break the Bulls’ record." The only problem he had with that team is how people like Van Gundy and a lot of others actually overreacted when they heard that the three players would play together. And he's right. It is definitely a lack of respect to the other teams that's played in this league, and also might I add, a clear lack of knowledge to the games of basketball. As I clearly said it myself many times this summer, teams of stars usually just do not work. I already showed it in several post so I certainly do not need to say it again here, but yes so most of the "super teams" that we had so far just failed. And that's what Pippen's talking about, that's the only thing he said, he never criticized the three stars unlike Jordan or Magic... A lot of people overreacted and overrated this team this summer, that is now a fact as they will not win 72 wins for sure. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Yeah, he has. Having to score 51 points to win a game by four points is any different? Way to nitpick at one game. Obviously he can't score 15 every night but he doesn't have to go nuts every night for us to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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