AboveLegit Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 Saw this posted on another forum, thought it was an interesting topic. Would you rather have your team make it to the playoffs as an 8th seed and face the possibility of getting swept, or would you want to make the lottery and have a chance at a top draft pick? An example is a team like Houston who has the chance to make the playoffs in the West, but would you rather see them miss it to get a head start in their rebuilding process? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenneral Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 This is the exact situation the Bucks are in right now. Unfortunately, management thinks grabbing the 8th seed and getting swept is still an accomplishment. -_- I would rather be a lottery team if you're not going to be a 6th seed or better. I'm probably in the minority but getting swept in the first round and not getting a good enough draft pick to really improve your team doesn't make a whole lot of sense. I'd rather be a lottery team that would at least give my team a chance at a top 3 pick and a chance to land a future star. A team like Milwaukee needs to build through the draft and trades. Superstars won't willingly come here. That's why it's so crucial that we have good drafts and you can't do that by always being in the middle of the pack. Once every few years you're going to need a top pick to build around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guru Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 Anything short of a championship is a loss. With that said, I would rather be a lottery team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htown11 Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 I think it also depends on how strong the draft is. Rockets were in a similar situation last year and have been for a few years now. With Tmac and Yao always being injured the Rockets were forced to battle for that 8th spot. Last year the Rockets came away with Patrick Patterson who looks like a keeper, and a solid pick but at the same time Daryl Morey and co. have made it clear that they will still attempt to get in with the 8th seed. I have to admit as a fan not thinking logically I would absolutely want to see the Rockets make the playoffs, it's one more game that I can attend lol. The crowds are so much better, the city becomes enthusiastic so from just a fan's standpoint who never wants to see the season end early I want them to go for that 8th spot and make life tough for the number 1 seed. Morey owns lots of different picks now so the draft or at least those picks will be essential in landing the superstar that he has so desperately been trying to acquire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Penny Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 8th seed easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenneral Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 8th seed easily.Explain... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clutch Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 playoffs for sure, anything can happen in the playoffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Penny Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 Explain... I don't see what there is to explain. The objective of the NBA season is to win a championship. The only way to win a championship is to make the playoffs. Missing the playoffs = Failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenneral Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 I don't see what there is to explain. The objective of the NBA season is to win a championship. The only way to win a championship is to make the playoffs. Missing the playoffs = Failure.The odds of a meddling 8th seed team upsetting a team like the Heat, Bulls, Spurs, Lakers, etc is highly unlikely. By attaining the 8th seed year after year you could actually be damaging your franchises future. Sometimes it's better to realize that while your team may may the playoffs, they certainly won't have a shot at winning a championship. In my opinion, it's then better off to try gathering new talent that could potentially put you over that hump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Penny Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 (edited) The odds of a meddling 8th seed team upsetting a team like the Heat, Bulls, Spurs, Lakers, etc is highly unlikely. By attaining the 8th seed year after year you could actually be damaging your franchises future. Sometimes it's better to realize that while your team may may the playoffs, they certainly won't have a shot at winning a championship. In my opinion, it's then better off to try gathering new talent that could potentially put you over that hump.Well maybe that's you. I hate losing, and would much rather have my team make the playoffs. I'm sure every single player in the NBA feels the same. Edited February 27, 2011 by Big Penny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted February 27, 2011 Owner Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 Win as much as you can, no matter what. If I'm a team's superstar, there's no way I'm going to miss the playoffs...doesn't matter who we'd end up playing. I'd rather go down fighting. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 Playoffs, just ask the Golden State Warriors. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaFranchise03 Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 Unless its a very young team like the Thunder last year, I would rather see the team in the lottery. I dont want the Rockets to get the 8th spot just to get embarrassed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Universe Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 All depends what your roster looks like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren2ThaG Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 in the west you wanna try and win, 1 thruw 12 is all close Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great iBoldin Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 You always strive to go as far as you can, whether you have a young or old team. You look at some of the younger teams that have established young talent and grab and 8 seed, it's about building your franchise so when you are in a better position you know what it takes to win in the Playoffs. The difference between 13/14 and 15/16 isn't much anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Check my Stats Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 (edited) I'd rather be the 8th seed than have the last pick in the lotto for sure. The likelihood that pick moves up is probably worse than your team beating the first seed. 8th seed vs a mid to high lotto, now that is an entirely different debate. Edited February 27, 2011 by Check my Stats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastNiner Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 I can't believe some of you are actually saying you would rather make the "lottery" which doesn't even mean much at all if you are a 9th place team versus making the playoffs as an 8th seed. There will be a minumum shift in draft positioning. . Think for once...... It's completely different if you would have a legitimate chance at getting the #1 overall pick with a stud player versus making the playoffs as an 8th seed, but even then you go for the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest N/A Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 (edited) I can't believe some of you are actually saying you would rather make the "lottery" which doesn't even mean much at all if you are a 9th place team versus making the playoffs as an 8th seed. There will be a minumum shift in draft positioning. . Think for once...... It's completely different if you would have a legitimate chance at getting the #1 overall pick with a stud player versus making the playoffs as an 8th seed, but even then you go for the playoffs. You have a less than 1% chance to win the Lottery even if you do finish 9th. #1 reason you want to make the playoffs... http://www.blacktoptens.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/baron.jpg 8 Seed Warriors took out the Mavs and gave the Jazz a great fight, the playoffs are why you play the game. Edited February 27, 2011 by N/A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaFranchise03 Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 It depends on the team. What percent chance would you give the Rockets to beat the Lakers, Mavs, or Spurs? 10% or less? To win the whole thing? probably 0%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleveland's Finest Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 Look at the teams going for the 8 seed right now... In the East, you have Charlotte, Milwaukee, and Indiana...Do you honestly think any of them have a bright future and an eight seed would be a step in the right direction? A step in direction for those teams would be getting a top 5 pick. The Cavs will have two top ten picks as opposed to just making the eight seed. In the present, it pisses the fan base off, but looking ahead, would a 4 game sweep be that much more beneficial? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest N/A Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 Look at the teams going for the 8 seed right now... In the East, you have Charlotte, Milwaukee, and Indiana...Do you honestly think any of them have a bright future and an eight seed would be a step in the right direction? A step in direction for those teams would be getting a top 5 pick. The Cavs will have two top ten picks as opposed to just making the eight seed. In the present, it pisses the fan base off, but looking ahead, would a 4 game sweep be that much more beneficial? What are the chances any of those three will get a top 5 pick? Probably less than 5% COMBINED! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver P Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 (edited) Definitely the playoffs. I am 100% against tanking I can't and will never understand that some teams lose on purpose... Well it's true that it allowed the Spurs to get Duncan in 97 so I can undersand it to some extent, but frankly it is not what sport is all about at all. That's why I always said that the NBA should do something to prevent the teams from tanking, it's honestly outrageous. Speaking about the Spurs I never understood how Robinson could accept to stay on the injury list when the Spurs staff asked him to... He eventually came back for the very last games of the season but he could have come back way earlier. That's not what a leader's supposed to do. A leader's supposed to make all what he can to make his team win EVERY game. That's why I never was a fan of Robinson anyhow... Well at least it allowed him to win two rings thanks to Duncan's leadership... Jordan would have never accepted something like that. Jordan was a true competitor. When he arrived in the league he said it very clearly "with me on the team the Bulls will make the playoffs every year." And so they did... That's what a true leader's all about. Besides when he missed almost the entire season in his second year in the league he came back anyway and allowed his team to make the playoffs. Sure the Bulls didn't win anything that year, and actually they were swept by the C's but at least they played one of the best first round series ever against the mighty Celtics and Jordan scored the most points ever in a playoffs game. I'd say that it was certainly worth it to make the playoffs that year. Rings are not everything. Of course it's what matters the most, that's true but certainly not the only thing that matters. You can make history many other way. The Nuggets in 94, Knicks in 99 and Warriors in 07 made history. They are the only 8th seed to ever beat a first seed in the playoffs. They didn't win but they made history nonetheless. The Nuggets-Sonics in 94 were an epic series. One of the best series ever. EVERYONE was sure that the Sonics would SWEEP the Nuggets that year. Well the Nuggets beat them 3-2 in spite of the "Not in our home" signs that the Sonics fans hold in the game 5... The Nuggets became the first team to ever beat a 1st seed. The Knicks are the only 8th seed to ever make the Finals. The 99 playoffs were an amazing adventure, even if we eventually lost in the Finals. And I definitely prefer to see the Knicks having such a great adventure than seeing them getting a 1st draft pick, you can be sure of that. Especially that it's not because you get a first draft pick that you will win a ring for sure... It's impossible to predict the future, nothing comes with a guarantee. That's why you gotta do everything you can to win the more games you can RIGHT NOW. And even if they do not win a series some teams can accomplish great things nonetheless. Take the Bulls-Celtics that we had a couple of years ago, the Bulls didn't win but the Bulls fans have every reason to be proud of their team, they had an unbelievable performance and thanks to them (and the C's of course) we watched one of the best series ever. All those performances are priceless experiences. We have some exciting series in the first round all the time ! The playoffs is a unique experience it had nothing to do with the regular season. Jordan once said that the regular season can be boring sometimes, it's like going to work everyday, but the playoffs are a totally different adventure. The NBA playoffs is the ultimate of basketball in the world. That's why you gotta do everything you can to make it to the playoffs every year. No matter how the Knicks were terrible the whole last decade, we had no chance to win any ring but I kept on rooting for them every game, I never thought about tanking. I only thought about the lottery when the season was over. That's what sports are all about, winning as much as you can, RIGHT NOW. Edited February 27, 2011 by Oliver P 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest N/A Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 (edited) Herm Knows http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMk5sMHj58I Edited February 27, 2011 by N/A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleveland's Finest Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 (edited) What are the chances any of those three will get a top 5 pick? Probably less than 5% COMBINED! Exactly, they should be trading their players. Charlotte traded Gerald Wallace because they realized that they are going in circles by keeping him. They need to trade Steven Jackson too. Indy has Hibbert and Collison, and should trade Granger and let Paul George start. Granger hasn't even got them to the playoffs yet, so I'd trade him while his value is his highest. Milwaukee has Jennings and Bogut, but with all the injuries, they should trade Salmons, who's been known to spark the team he's traded too. ---------- And it's not tanking. Trade the old veterans who won't be there when you turn it all around, and play the young guys so you can rebuild NOW. How many teams were mediocre with veterans, made the eight seed, then won the finals a few years later? The Golden State Warriors had the eight seed, then a 50 win season the next year, and now look at them. Edited February 27, 2011 by Cleveland's Finest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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