Lkr Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 You still can't dispute the fact that LBJ and DWhistle get phantom calls when there were times that Philly/Indy weren't getting shit. Sure, not attacking the basket has something to do with it, but bad officiating happens a LOT in the NBA 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 (edited) You still can't dispute the fact that LBJ and DWhistle get phantom calls when there were times that Philly/Indy weren't getting shit. Sure, not attacking the basket has something to do with it, but bad officiating happens a LOT in the NBA Bad officiating happens in every sport. You tell me where LBJ and Wade got calls they shouldn't have today. Wade got fouled before he kicked the leg out as Nitro pointed out and I saw LBJ travel once badly there in the second quarter I think it was. What plays did Philly really get screwed on? Also, lol @ DWhistle. Is that really what you're resorting to right now? Edited April 17, 2011 by Flash 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Check my Stats Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 Yo clutch quit +1ing like a bitch and post your thoughts. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish7718 Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 That was a BS call on Thaddeus at the end, that was good D followed by an offensive foul, if you cannot defend someone like that, I don't get how you are supposed to play defense... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 That was a BS call on Thaddeus at the end, that was good D followed by an offensive foul, if you cannot defend someone like that, I don't get how you are supposed to play defense... He bumped Wade before the shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reno Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 Rose was attacking the basket like a mad man today, so no surprise he got a lot of free throws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgerFan Posted April 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 He ran into Young, Young didn't "bump" him. You are a complete homer, and we all know it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 That was a BS call on Thaddeus at the end, that was good D followed by an offensive foul, if you cannot defend someone like that, I don't get how you are supposed to play defense... As I posted before, it was a foul before he even jumped up for the shot. Young impeded Wade's progress, Wade took the hit and faded back. I agree it's an iffy call, but a ton of players make a living off the same call...Maggette, Kevin Martin, etc... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 As I posted before, it was a foul before he even jumped up for the shot. Young impeded Wade's progress, Wade took the hit and faded back. I agree it's an iffy call, but a ton of players make a living off the same call...Maggette, Kevin Martin, etc... This, Kevin Martin did that a few times against us in the game against Houston a while back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 He ran into Young, Young didn't "bump" him. You are a complete homer, and we all know it. Apparently I'm not alone in my opinion. Quit bitching about one call in a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomarFachix Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 He ran into Young, Young didn't "bump" him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 So do you guys think there should there have been an offensive foul called on Wade or just a no call? Be as objective as possible when answering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgerFan Posted April 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 Offensive foul. You can't kick someone in order to get seperation, which is what he did. It's no diferent than someone pushing off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 (edited) Offensive foul. You can't kick someone in order to get seperation, which is what he did. It's no diferent than someone pushing off. You're exaggerating the "kick". It didn't give Wade any separation at all. The bump by Young is what got the separation. The "kick" actually got Young on his side or his arm it looked like so it in no way helped out Wade at all if you really look at the replay. The ball was leaving Wade's hands as that happened. Edited April 17, 2011 by Flash 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lkr Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 You're exaggerating the "kick". It didn't give Wade any separation at all. The bump by Young is what got the separation. The "kick" actually got Young on his side or his arm it looked like so it in no way helped out Wade at all if you really look at the replay. The ball was leaving Wade's hands as that happened.Wade running right into Young is a bump by Young. Thanks for the clarification Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guru Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 You're exaggerating the "kick". It didn't give Wade any separation at all. The bump by Young is what got the separation. The "kick" actually got Young on his side or his arm it looked like so it in no way helped out Wade at all if you really look at the replay. The ball was leaving Wade's hands as that happened.God I [expletive]ing hope you are kidding. That was clearly a charge. But as are as the topic is concerned the FT disparity is a combo of teams attacking the rim more than others and the refs being biased towards stars. It's nothing new or shocking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 God I [expletive]ing hope you are kidding. That was clearly a charge. But as are as the topic is concerned the FT disparity is a combo of teams attacking the rim more than others and the refs being biased towards stars. It's nothing new or shocking. That was anything but a charge. Pushing off? You could make the case. But a charge? Not on this planet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guru Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 That was anything but a charge. Pushing off? You could make the case. But a charge? Not on this planet.Really? Lowing your shoulder into the defender isn't a charge? And than doing the leg version of a stiff arm in midair isn't a charge? Damn, learn something new everyday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 Really? Lowing your shoulder into the defender isn't a charge? And than doing the leg version of a stiff arm in midair isn't a charge? Damn, learn something new everyday. Lol maybe had there been that much contact that it would've forced Young to go back and maybe fall then I can buy it being a charge. But you're reaching with this example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 There was no way that was a charge...that play is a pet move by a number of players, star or not. It was a bump on Young because he impeded Wade's progress (he didn't take the right angle on Wade's drive and wasn't quick enough to avoid that contact), and Wade sold it by taking the bump and fading away. Now, you can argue the foul was called due to Wade sticking out his leg, but it's not a play to cause much fuss over because the initial bump is a play the refs will call about 90% of the time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guru Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 (edited) There was no way that was a charge...that play is a pet move by a number of players, star or not. It was a bump on Young because he impeded Wade's progress (he didn't take the right angle on Wade's drive and wasn't quick enough to avoid that contact), and Wade sold it by taking the bump and fading away. Now, you can argue the foul was called due to Wade sticking out his leg, but it's not a play to cause much fuss over because the initial bump is a play the refs will call about 90% of the time.Sure, but it doesn't make it the right call though. You can even see Young fall back after Wade shouldered him. If you are trying to tell me that Young initiated that contact than I don't know what to tell you. I guess we are just seeing two completely different things. Edited April 17, 2011 by Guru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish7718 Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 (edited) I just want to know what a player is supposed to do in that situation, Young had the inside track to the rim, all he did was stay on Wades hip until Wade ran straight into him. Oh well, I guess that just how the NBA is. There is also no doubt that what created the space was wade putting his knee on top of Thaddeus's arm and kicking off nvm on second look the space is created by the nudge and kept by the kick, I still think it should be a no call and then you can call an offensive foul on the kick but ill rest my case Edited April 17, 2011 by Pinkie Pie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 Sure, but it doesn't make it the right call though. That's subjective, but when it's called all over the league amongst stars and non-stars, then it's fair game and the norm. To use it to show how biased the refs are against the Pacers/Sixers is stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 I just want to know what a player is supposed to do in that situation, Young had the inside track to the rim, all he did was stay on Wades hip until Wade ran straight into him. That's the issue, riding a player is an easy way to pick up a foul call, especially against a guy like Wade who will take the contact and sell the foul by fading away. You have to not let him get that step in the first place, and if you do you have to contest him at the rim and hope your big man is there for protection. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgerFan Posted April 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 It was good, solid defense by Young. Wade just ran into him, like he usually does and drew the contact. Was beautiful defense though. BTW, that call probably sealed the deal for the Heat win, I think it was a 2 or 3 point game, and that shot made it a 4 or 5 point game with 1:30 left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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