moeroadkill Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 (edited) there has been a ton of discussion of who is better who will be and who would u rather haveso ill like to hear what you guys say Edited July 31, 2009 by MoeRoadKill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multi-Billionaire Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Kevin Durant... he is probably imo the purest scorer to come to the L since AI, Kobe and TMac. And he is probably better than them... in terms of scoring, considering how silky smooth his form is, the ball is like dancing in his hands, it's feathery smooth. He blows by people like he doesn't try, his athleticism is unbelievable, his range is very deep, his length gives him another edge. And he is more all around than people realize, he has very good court vision and passing ability. LeBron to me is a super athlete who happens to choose basketball. He is very good at it of course, but he is lacking the nature of offense only possessed by pure scorers and especially Durant's shooting range. Plus Durant is very committed to his team, he cares about the team's progress and has the makings of a true franchise player since Tim Duncan. LeBron is now the better player, but I'll take Durant later, I'll take Durant on my team now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Right now LBJ but I'm very high on what Durant can become. In 2 years KD will be the most dominant offensive player in the game. He's still filling out too. Love Durant's game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicbalala245 Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 I chose Lebron but surprised people didn't chose KD instead of LeBron. Beside Choosing Wade over Lebron is ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Rat Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Durant doesn't get dunked on....... but if he did he wouldn't hide the tape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
His Greatness Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Uh, LeBron. Consider Durant lucky if he ever reaches the level that LeBron is at right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bravenewworld Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Uh, LeBron. Consider Durant lucky if he ever reaches the level that LeBron is at right now. Durant only averaged 3 points less, 1 rebound less, 1 block less and 5 assists less.Considering Durant was on his second year last season vs Lebrons 6, id say its a pretty dumb statement to say Durant would be "lucky" to ever reach Lebrons level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
His Greatness Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Durant only averaged 3 points less, 1 rebound less, 1 block less and 5 assists less.Considering Durant was on his second year last season vs Lebrons 6, id say its a pretty dumb statement to say Durant would be "lucky" to ever reach Lebrons level.Considering raw statistics don't even come close to measuring the full scope of a player, it's pretty dumb of you to try contradicting what I said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flight Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 (edited) Player One in season two: 27.2 PPG7.4 RPG7.2 APG2.2 SPG0.7 BPG47.2 FG% Player Two in season two: 25.3 PPG6.5 RPG2.8 APG1.3 SPG0.7 BPG47.6 FG% Player One has better stats in each of the main categories except blocks per game (tied) and field goal percentage (.4% less, in other words player one would have made a whole 6.7 shots more the entire season if given the other player's percentage, while shooting 0.8 more times from three point land per game than the other player, not to mention the extra 0.9 trips to the free throw line per game). Now look at the improvements from season one to season two for each of the players: Player One in season two versus one: +6.3 PPG+1.9 RPG+1.3 APG+0.5 SPG+0.0 BPG Player Two in season two versus one: +5.0 PPG+2.1 RPG+0.4 APG+0.3 SPG-0.2 BPG Other than rebounds per game (in which player two still was 0.9 rebounds per game less than player one at that point in their career's), Player One has better improvements over his rookie season (and as aforementioned, the better season two in almost every category) and improved all of his statistics (except for the blocks per game, which stayed the same). They both improved their shooting percentage a noticeable amount, but Player One improved his percent 5.5% from the year before, compared to 4.6%. Both players have nearly identical shooting percentages at this point in their career's. Set all of that aside however. Let's look at team records, and how they changed from before the players were drafted and afterwards. Team One (Player One's team): 17-65 before drafting Player One35-47 in rookie season42-40 in second season Team Two (Player Two's team): 31-51 before drafting Player Two20-62 in rookie season23-59 in second season Not only did Player Two's team get worse, Player One's team improved by 18 games, then by 7 more the next year, rather than dropping 11 and going back up 3. The net differential after two seasons is +25 wins for Player One, and -8 wins for Player Two. Both players were top 2 picks, so draft position can't really be used as an argument. Both teams were rebuilding, and both now appear to be in the right direction and mostly set. I'll let you figure out who is Player One and Player Two, you ought to know by now. Player One is far superior, while Player Two has a very nice stat line and bright future but hasn't produced wins, or improved on much more than scoring and rebounding (which is nice, but more needs to be improved), and defense (which both players dramatically improved after their rookie campaigns). I will say that I like both Durant and James, and think both players are future MVPs, but it's clear which is better for now, and the future. Edited July 31, 2009 by I Changed My Name Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWaLL Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 I love Durant and hate Lebron, but this comparison shouldn't even be close. Lebron is far better than Durant and I'll be surprised if Durant ever reaches the level that Lebron is at currently, and he isn't even near peaking yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleveland's Finest Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Durant imo is not gonna be a star like Kobe, Bron, Wade. He'll be like a Paul Pierce/Dirk Nowitski type player: Not a worldwide star, but a guy who is an annual all-star. Imo....Durant shows no signs of LeBron in him. He's so limber and he's more of a finesse player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Check my Stats Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 (edited) Durant is a borderline first tier all-star/superstar I consider him a top flight all-star, or 2nd tier, like Pierce and Dirk like mentioned above. He'll never be in the LeBron, Kobe, Wade, Paul group etc because they have almost no holes in their game and can literally carry a team. I don't watch Durant but from what I understand he is a lackluster defender and he doesn't have that great of a handle does he? Sure KD's stats are nice, but his team is trash, LeBron doesn't just put up stats, he hasn't missed the playoffs since his rookie year with a lack of help, his teams were the > Thunder but Durant is the only player on that team doing anything significant. It's hard to compare though since Durant hasn't really had an opportunity to put W's on the board, but regardless this is easily LeBron. I really like Durant's game though. What makes Kobe, LeBron, Wade so good is because they positively affect the outcome of games in so many ways besides scoring, seems like all Durant is doing right now is scoring. Edited July 31, 2009 by travesy3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flight Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Durant is a borderline first tier all-star/superstar I consider him a top flight all-star, or 2nd tier, like Pierce and Dirk like mentioned above. He'll never be in the LeBron, Kobe, Wade, Paul group etc because they have almost no holes in their game and can literally carry a team. Sure KD's stats are nice, but his team is trash, LeBron doesn't just put up stats, he hasn't missed the playoffs since his rookie year with a lack of help, his teams were the > Thunder but Durant is the only player on that team doing anything significant. It's hard to compare though since Durant hasn't really had an opportunity to put W's on the board, but regardless this is easily LeBron. I really like Durant's game though.You'll be surprised by OKC this year, they'll win more than 35 games. Green, Westbrook, and Harden will all be very good players, and if they get any depth through a few trades they'll be close to 40 wins I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChosenOne Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Right now Lebron. Later I am really not sure but voted Lebron. On my team definately Lebron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Check my Stats Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 You'll be surprised by OKC this year, they'll win more than 35 games. Green, Westbrook, and Harden will all be very good players, and if they get any depth through a few trades they'll be close to 40 wins I think. Yeah I really like the makeup of your guys team. I was like "wtf" when they took RW but he looks like an absolute stud. Still need a banger down low but I like the guys you have, a lot of talent on that team. But the fact of the matter is Durant needs to show everyone that he isn't just a scorer, that he can do more than that. He needs to get more assists than turnovers, he just needs to do more of the little things to get those wins. But he is definitely going to be a top 10 player in the NBA very soon. Age considered he might be top 5 in terms of valuable players, that is up for debate though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWaLL Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 Durant is a borderline first tier all-star/superstar I consider him a top flight all-star, or 2nd tier, like Pierce and Dirk like mentioned above. He'll never be in the LeBron, Kobe, Wade, Paul group etc because they have almost no holes in their game and can literally carry a team. I don't watch Durant but from what I understand he is a lackluster defender and he doesn't have that great of a handle does he?Sure KD's stats are nice, but his team is trash, LeBron doesn't just put up stats, he hasn't missed the playoffs since his rookie year with a lack of help, his teams were the > Thunder but Durant is the only player on that team doing anything significant. It's hard to compare though since Durant hasn't really had an opportunity to put W's on the board, but regardless this is easily LeBron. I really like Durant's game though. What makes Kobe, LeBron, Wade so good is because they positively affect the outcome of games in so many ways besides scoring, seems like all Durant is doing right now is scoring.Exactly. I should have mentioned that in my post. There are several aspects of Durant's game that are keeping him from being superstar franchise player material. -Perimeter/Post defense-Body strength and size-Ball handling ability Durant will obviously be a star and a consistent all star throughout his career, but he just can't be put in the category of the true elite young players which include Lebron, Wade, and Paul (and maybe Dwight). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheriff Shaq Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 LeBron James. KD may end up being a better overall offensive player than LeBron but he'll never be the better overall player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastNiner Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 I'm really surprised that multiple people, let alone one person have picked Kevin Durant. LeBron is the superior player, and I see Kevin Durant as a 2nd tier player in this league, and he doesn't have near the body that LeBron James does, which makes him a lot less effective when he tries do drive and get a foul. I feel like this a kind of like a, "Who is better, and who is going to be better, Andre Johnson or Eddie Royal?" type question. It's that obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Lots of haters on this site to even think about picking Kevin Durant over LeBron. Wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Years Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Wow if I thought Durant couldn't get any more overrated this offseason I see him get compared to Lebron. Durant to me is just another case of a player putting up good stats on a bad team( Nothing to me really separates Durant from that group of players). Lebron has proven to be the Second best player in the game(Some may argue he's the first) and right now is just on a different level then Durant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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