Showtime16 Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 Pistons Bobcats Cavs just to name a few I have My Cavs off season posted in their team forum here is my Piston off season "Blow Up" Top 3 Needs: PG SF SGEverybody is expendable the Pistons glory days left with Cauncey Buillups. They have good players but they are all out of their primes. Only Austin Daye, Greg Monroe, Rodney Stuckey, and possibly Jonas Jerebko have a secure future in Detroit. FA:Get some new faces 12 Will Bynum G 6-0 185 Georgia Tech 3 Solid reserve5 Austin Daye F 6-11 200 Gonzaga 1 Good young prospect 7 Ben Gordon G 6-3 200 University of Connecticut 6 Super scorer off the bench trade to contender32 Richard Hamilton G 6-7 193 University of Connecticut 11 Veteran player best days behind him trade to contender 33 Jonas Jerebko F 6-9 220 Sweden 1 Young prospect 54 Jason Maxiell F 6-7 260 University of Cincinnati 5 Good reserve1 Tracy McGrady G 6-8 223 Mt. Zion Christian Academy (NC) 13 Let him go 10 Greg Monroe F 6-11 250 Georgetown R Key to the next Generation Piston Regime 22 Tayshaun Prince F 6-9 215 University of Kentucky 8 Trade bait3 Rodney Stuckey G 6-5 205 Eastern Washington University 3 Good player needs to find niche PG or SG35 DaJuan Summers F 6-8 236 Georgetown 1 Not going to pan out 31 Charlie Villanueva F 6-11 232 University of Connecticut 5 Decent scorer could be included in trade6 Ben Wallace C 6-9 240 Virginia Union 14 Keep him off the bench or trade him 23 Terrico White G 6-5 213 Mississippi R Nothing special 9 Chris Wilcox C 6-10 235 University of Maryland 8 Let him go Draft:Bismack Biyombo PF/CNolan Smith PG or Travis Leslie SG FA: Release: Prince Summers McGrady WIlcox Sign: Role Players T.J. Ford true PG Daequan Cook Shooter Dashawn Stevenson Defender Trades: Some Combo Hamilton Villanueva Gordon Bynum to Grizzlies for OJ Mayo Ish Smith or Tony Allen 2012 Roster Starters TJ Ford PG FAOJ Mayo SG TradeKelenna Azubuike SF FAGreg Monroe PF/CBismack Biyombo C/PF Draft Reserves Rodney Stuckey PG/SGAustin Daye SF/PFBen Wallace CDaequan Cook SG/PG FATravis Leslie SG/SF DraftJason Maxiell PF/CJonas Jerebko C/PFIsh Smith PG Trade Breakdown: Trading contracts and worn out players for young talent and infusing solid role playing players via FA is a start to the Detroit Blow up. Rodney Stuckey is a possible six man of the year candidate as a combo scorer off the bench. Ford is an average PG with good leadership skill for a very young team. I think Memphis would take Rip Hamilton Villanueva Ben Gordon and Will Bynum or any combination of these four for Mayo and Ish Smith. The trade makes them more Title ready now rather then building up for the title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted May 18, 2011 Owner Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 The way I see it, teams like the Cavaliers can't really "blow it up" because they are already in that rebuilding mode, especially now that they have two top four picks. In less than a year, they lost LeBron, Shaq, Ilgauskas, Williams and West...so, I mean, technically, it's already obliterated. Blowing it up and rebuilding...this is what I'm reading. I'm interested to see if anyone will consider the Celtics. Few have actually discussed what they should do in the offseason. KG, Pierce and Allen's run as a championship trio could be done, so is it right to blow it up and deal the pieces now, or wait and hope for another magical season, and risk having these guys end their careers like Hakeem, Barkley and Drexler? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newman Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 Just the Bobcats for me. They need to get talent, and quickly. They got a good coach, a good system that's friendly to young players but there just aren't any great prospects worth developing at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Showtime16 Posted May 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 Dont need to blow it up just get fresh legs What should the Rockets do Via FA Draft and what are the teams top 3 needs.My Rockets off season Rockets Top 3 NeedsC:Chuck Hays does what he can, but he is not a starter he would serve Rockets better off benchSF:Rockets need to address this need in the off season Budinger is ok, they need an offensive threat or lock down defender their to complement the Kevin MartinShooting PG/SG: Rockets need to get a combo guard to come off bench, hit the three and spread out defense Resign Players:Don't resign Yao or at least don't over pay to keep himSign Dragic back only if you can't find a scoring point guardSign Chuck back he is a gritty team playerMaybesBrad Miller never can have to many bigsCourtney Lee is still young and could be good playerFree Agents: Land one or more of these playersFA Big BoardCaron ButlerDavid WestDeandre JordanMarc GasolNeneWilson ChandlerArron AffaloSpencer HawesGlen DavisJJ BereaJosh HowardKelenna AzubuikeJosh McRobertsIf you land a good big man you then make Scola expendable (trade)I think we push for De Jordan Rockets never pull trigger on free agentsand we get another avg big Big Baby Davis or prospect McRoberts Draft: Pending on prior selections Rockets need to have a good draft in what is said to be weak draft class, but Rocks GM is decent at picking late 1st early 2nd picksDraft Big Board minus the players I think we be gone FASHO1st RoundTerrance JonesJan VeselyJimmer FredetteKawhi LeonardDonatas MotiejunasTristan ThompsonTyler HoneycuttJordan HamiltonBismack BiyomboKenneth FariedDarius MorrisJaJuan Johnson2nd RoundDarius MorrisJaJuan JohnsonTravis LeslieLaceDarius DunnNorris ColeE'twaun MooreChandler ParsonsKalin LucusFirst RoundDo the Rockets take Best Available or Draft for needs?1st pick Donatas Motiejunas Can play C/PF/SF sweet stroke from outside but can also bang needs to work on D though Alt:Jimmer Fredette Tristan Thompson2nd pick Tyler Honeycutt SG/SF tall, rangy athletic, and he is skilled Alt: Darius Morris Kenneth FariedSecond Round Deandre Liggins JaJaun Johnson or Justin Harper since Darius Moore is climbing the draft boards 2012 RosterSTARTERSKyle LowryKevin MartinTerrence WilliamsLouis ScolaDonatas MotiejunasBENCHPatrick PattersonChase BudingerChuck HayesTyler HoneycuttDeandre LigginsCourtney LeeJordan HillHasheem Thabeet With this off season you solved all your roster problems realisticallyNow your Trade Scola and throw in Lowry Martin Hill or LeePossibilities:Trading for Wilson Chandler SF/SG w/ Chis Andersen or Arron AffaloTrading for Andre IggidolaTrading for Tyson ChandlerTrading for David WestI would trade Scola Lowry and Lee for ChandlerChris Andersen and Arron AffaloTeam Needs SF check C Check and Shooter Check in this trade Then Trad Hill and another roll player for a PG say TJ Ford Rodrigue Beaubois Daequan Cook Nate RobinsonHill strait up for Robinson remember his Knick days or Cook the two most likely optionsSign Vet PG Acie Law or Earl WatsonFinal Roster2012 RosterSTARTERSNate RobinsonKevin MartinWilson ChandlerPatrick PattersonDeandre JordanBENCHArron AffaloDonatas MotiejunasChuck HayesChris AndersenTerrence WilliamsTyler HoneycuttChase BudingerDeandre LigginsAcie LawJosh McRobertsHasheem Thabeet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Showtime16 Posted May 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 The way I see it, teams like the Cavaliers can't really "blow it up" because they are already in that rebuilding mode, especially now that they have two top four picks. In less than a year, they lost LeBron, Shaq, Ilgauskas, Williams and West...so, I mean, technically, it's already obliterated. Blowing it up and rebuilding...this is what I'm reading. I'm interested to see if anyone will consider the Celtics. Few have actually discussed what they should do in the offseason. KG, Pierce and Allen's run as a championship trio could be done, so is it right to blow it up and deal the pieces now, or wait and hope for another magical season, and risk having these guys end their careers like Hakeem, Barkley and Drexler?True they blew up last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Showtime16 Posted May 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 Bobcats Top 3 needs:C PG SG Free Agency:Lose Kwame Brown Pryzbilla Resign Garrett Temple FA Glen Davis Patty Mills Draft:1st Rond 9th Pick Jan Vesely 1st Round 19th Pick Josh Selby 2nd Round 9th Pick Gilbert Brown Current Roster # Player Name Pos HT WT College Exp14 D.J. Augustin G 6-0 180 Texas 2 Solid young PG prospect could be future full time starter54 Kwame Brown C 6-11 270 Glynn Academy HS (GA) 9 Never paned out soft big man 33 Matt Carroll G 6-6 212 University of Notre Dame 7 can shoot33 Dante Cunningham F 6-8 230 Villanova 1 Rangy young forward 32 Boris Diaw F 6-8 235 France 7 Had his flashes not consistent 7 DSagana Diop C 7-0 280 Oak Hill Academy (VA) 9 Another big that never reached potential 15 Gerald Henderson G 6-4 215 Duke 1 Fundamental SG 1 Stephen Jackson F 6-8 218 Oak Hill Academy (VA) 10 Trade Bait in rebuilding regime 2 Shaun Livingston G 6-7 182 Peoria Central HS (IL) 5 Injury plagued PG 5 Dominic McGuire F 6-9 220 Fresno State University 3 Release 21 Eduardo Najera F 6-8 235 University of Oklahoma 10 Let GO10 Joel Przybilla C 7-1 255 University of Minnesota 10 Don't resign 41 Garrett Temple G 6-6 190 LSU 1 Resign good defender off the bench and he is a streaky shooter 12 Tyrus Thomas C 6-8 215 Louisiana State University 4 Good big athlete 3 D.J. White F 6-9 251 Indiana 2 Big 2012 Starters WO TRADES DJ Agustin Gerald Henderson Stephen Jackson Borris Diaw Tyrus Thomas Bench Glen Davis FAPatty Mills FAJan Vesely DraftJosh Selby DraftSean Livingston Garrett TempleGilbert Brown DraftDante Cunningham Sherron Collins TradesStephen Jackson Sean Livingston and Borris Diaw Clippers Al-Farouq Aminu and Eric Bledsoe 76ers Jodie Meeks Jason Kopono and Craig Brackins Mavericks Roddy Beaubois Corey Brewer 2012 W/ Trades Starters DJ Agustin PGGerald Henderson SG Jason Kopono SF Trade Glen Davis PF FATyrus Thomas CBench Jodie Meeks SG TradeCraig Brackins PF TradePatty Mills PG FAJan Vesely SF/PF Draft Josh Selby PG DraftGarrett Temple PG/SGGilbert Brown SG/SF DraftDante Cunningham SFSherron Collins PG/SG Agustin gets a shot to run the show so you see what you have there and Henderson is a decent SG with sweet shooting Jodie Meeks off the bench. Kopono can stretch defenses and Vesely will be an offensive weapon. Garrett Temple improves every time he get playing time and found a niche as a defensive combo guard. Josh Selby can take over PG if Agustin fails and he is a very good prospect. Brackins can back up Tyrus Thomas and Big Baby Davis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newman Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 ^ First of all, I doubt the salary match regarding the trade. Kapono is a free agent. Secondly, Vesely would not drop down to 9th, he just have too much upside for teams to pass up on him. Bobcats would probably get someone like Kenneth Faried at that spot. Lastly, that team doesn't look any better than the team right now. Just looking around for an offensive option is difficult enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Showtime16 Posted May 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 ^ First of all, I doubt the salary match regarding the trade. Kapono is a free agent. Secondly, Vesely would not drop down to 9th, he just have too much upside for teams to pass up on him. Bobcats would probably get someone like Kenneth Faried at that spot. Lastly, that team doesn't look any better than the team right now. Just looking around for an offensive option is difficult enough.Not going to get better in one year hints blowing it up and starting over and the mock I had pulled up had him falling that far I was going off that and since Kapono is a FA the 76ers could resign him and Oh and Go [expletive] yourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newman Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 Not going to get better in one year hints blowing it up and starting over and the mock I had pulled up had him falling that far I was going off that and since Kapono is a FA the 76ers could resign him and Oh and Go [expletive] yourself Come on, really? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Showtime16 Posted May 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 I don't think the Celts should blow it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted May 18, 2011 Owner Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 Not going to get better in one year hints blowing it up and starting over and the mock I had pulled up had him falling that far I was going off that and since Kapono is a FA the 76ers could resign him and Oh and Go [expletive] yourselfFirst of all, don't talk to my posters that way. He's right. Your trade doesn't work. You can't trade $21 million in salary to a Philly team that's giving back $2 million and a free agent, unless you think Philly is going to sign and trade Kapono for $17-18 million a year. Same with the proposed Mavs and Clippers trades. Thomas, Davis, Kapono, Henderson and Augustin would be the worst starting five in the NBA, also. Four of the five are bench players, and Augustin doesn't have the primacy on offense to create for guys that need spoon-fed their points. He shoots a very low percentage and doesn't have the passing ability of a Nash or Kidd...not even close. Defensively, they would be undersized. Kapono is a terrible defensive player. Davis can't defend, more scrappy than anything (like an oversized Nocioni). Henderson doesn't play defense. Augustin was one of the worst defenders on the Bobcats last season. Tyrus Thomas plays defense, but he's no Dwight Howard. That Charlotte team would win 10 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Check my Stats Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 Rockets are in denial, it's time to rebuild there. Bobcats need to remove the rest of their pieces and go into a full fledged rebuild Pistons need to try and dump those horrid contracts they gave out, be bottom 3, not mid lotto. Suns need to blow it up, should have this year. Magic should blow it up, get value for Dwight while you can. There might be more, but that's just off the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenneral Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 Bucks. Blow it up. Now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reno Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 I've heard the suns blow it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dash Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 Rockets are in denial, it's time to rebuild there. Bobcats need to remove the rest of their pieces and go into a full fledged rebuild Pistons need to try and dump those horrid contracts they gave out, be bottom 3, not mid lotto. Suns need to blow it up, should have this year. Magic should blow it up, get value for Dwight while you can. There might be more, but that's just off the top. As long as we have Yao Ming, I say go ahead and compete but by letting go of Adelman they are probably thinking of rebuilding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sun Tzu Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 I wouldn't be surprised if the Suns do blow the team up, but I don't see it happening. I think the only sign of us blowing up would be to trade Nash, either for future picks or a young piece(s). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch23 Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 I've hopped on the trade Tony Parker bandwagon. He's probably our most valubale asset and is still young, package him with Blair or our 29th pick and maybe we could net a solid wing or big. The big three of the Spurs are done competing for championships and it would be too hard for them to retool with a very weak draft, possible hard cap, and question marks on the new CBA. Richard Jeffersons contract is horrible, and if you want to get talent you have to trade talent. Parker is that guy, unless some teams have interest in Manu as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htown11 Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 Rockets are in denial, it's time to rebuild there. Denial is what we do best. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smitty Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 Sixers. Everyone except for Holiday and Turner(and if a good deal doesn't show up, Iguodala) should be up for grabs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dash Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 Sixers. Everyone except for Holiday and Turner(and if a good deal doesn't show up, Iguodala) should be up for grabs. Smitty actually posting about basketball? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Showtime16 Posted May 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 Denial is what we do best. Yea Ima Rockets guy for life and it is time to rebuild. Scola is good but he won't win you games Lowry is good not great K-Mart can score but is a number 2 type of guy with no D or court vision. Put a fork in Yao he is done! The only player I say is untouchable is Patrick Patterson i think has the makeup to be a good player and a team leader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multi-Billionaire Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 I'd say the Nuggets... not necessarily that I want them to, but I think it will happen. 1.) I really think Kenyon will leave to join Miami or Dallas (hometown). They're legit title contenders, Kenyon would love to go back to his hometown, play for a fun owner in Cuban, and it wouldn't hurt for Mavs to add more toughness. But if Heat win the title, and they obviously need a tough PF like him, he would definitely consider Heat. Barring any more serious injury, Kenyon has 2-3 good years left in him, and I see him willing to sign a veteran minimum to join contenders. 2.) Nene could leave. He chose to opt out, but expressed his desire to resign long term... slim chance Nuggets let him go, but there's still a possibility of sign and trade if he receives an offer from another team the Nuggets are not willing to match. I wouldn't be surprised with a Nene trade. 3.) I think Felton will be traded... he's expressed his desire to start full time, want to become All Star. As long as Ty is here, that won't happen... 4.) Wilson Chandler may be let go for his choke job in playoffs (4ppg in playoffs... really?) 5.) I could see AA leaving if some team offers him a ridiculous offer the Nuggets are not willing to match, e.g. $8+ mil per... and sad to say as a fan, I could actually see it happen. 6.) We have so many young assets... I wouldn't be surprised if we make a draft day trade and move into lottery. In fact, there are only three players I know the Nuggets are DEFINITELY going to keep: Ty, Gallo, Mozgov... (unless some teams offer their superstar for them). The rest is up in the air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Showtime16 Posted June 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 I'd say the Nuggets... not necessarily that I want them to, but I think it will happen. 1.) I really think Kenyon will leave to join Miami or Dallas (hometown). They're legit title contenders, Kenyon would love to go back to his hometown, play for a fun owner in Cuban, and it wouldn't hurt for Mavs to add more toughness. But if Heat win the title, and they obviously need a tough PF like him, he would definitely consider Heat. Barring any more serious injury, Kenyon has 2-3 good years left in him, and I see him willing to sign a veteran minimum to join contenders. 2.) Nene could leave. He chose to opt out, but expressed his desire to resign long term... slim chance Nuggets let him go, but there's still a possibility of sign and trade if he receives an offer from another team the Nuggets are not willing to match. I wouldn't be surprised with a Nene trade. 3.) I think Felton will be traded... he's expressed his desire to start full time, want to become All Star. As long as Ty is here, that won't happen... 4.) Wilson Chandler may be let go for his choke job in playoffs (4ppg in playoffs... really?) 5.) I could see AA leaving if some team offers him a ridiculous offer the Nuggets are not willing to match, e.g. $8+ mil per... and sad to say as a fan, I could actually see it happen. 6.) We have so many young assets... I wouldn't be surprised if we make a draft day trade and move into lottery. In fact, there are only three players I know the Nuggets are DEFINITELY going to keep: Ty, Gallo, Mozgov... (unless some teams offer their superstar for them). The rest is up in the air.Good points I think AA could be a great player and I think the Nuggets should mos def try to keep him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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